Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 22, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted January 22, 2021 https://www.motor1.com/news/481495/federal-gas-tax-hike/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 gas tax needs to go up or they need to appropriately tax EV and hybrids to make up for the lack of income. Reality is these cars should be surcharged at registration to make up for them not paying for the roads they use. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, Angry ginger said: gas tax needs to go up or they need to appropriately tax EV and hybrids to make up for the lack of income. Reality is these cars should be surcharged at registration to make up for them not paying for the roads they use. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member poopooforme Posted January 22, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, Angry ginger said: gas tax needs to go up or they need to appropriately tax EV and hybrids to make up for the lack of income. Reality is these cars should be surcharged at registration to make up for them not paying for the roads they use. Isn't that what happens?? Talked to a guy in MN that payed over 1500 bucks to reg his chevy volt. To make up for the loss of gas tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 He said...quote from the link... We need to look at any responsible, viable revenue mechanism we can all agree on," Buttigieg said during the hearing, Automotive News reports. Republican Senator Mike Lee asked if new revenue mechanisms could include gas tax hikes, to which Buttigieg said: "It's possible - certainly many states have taken that step including my own - but it's not the only approach." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, poopooforme said: Isn't that what happens?? Talked to a guy in MN that payed over 1500 bucks to reg his chevy volt. To make up for the loss of gas tax. looked up MN, it's $75 for an EV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 no where in the NE has a tax on them yet and most of the fees seem minor compared to the lost revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 22, 2021 Author Gold Member Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, poopooforme said: Isn't that what happens?? Talked to a guy in MN that payed over 1500 bucks to reg his chevy volt. To make up for the loss of gas tax. Registration is double the cost in my state if it is a PHEV or BEV. Edited January 22, 2021 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Stephen Hawking Posted January 22, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted January 22, 2021 25 minutes ago, Mainecat said: He said...quote from the link... We need to look at any responsible, viable revenue mechanism we can all agree on," Buttigieg said during the hearing, Automotive News reports. Republican Senator Mike Lee asked if new revenue mechanisms could include gas tax hikes, to which Buttigieg said: "It's possible - certainly many states have taken that step including my own - but it's not the only approach." Why is it you can dig into a link to find information only when it's one you didn't post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: Registration is double the cost in my state if it is a PHEV or BEV. And that will go up much more as more EV's are sold and less gasoline vehicles on the roads, roads are paid and maintained from Gas sales. I expect to see 5 -10 fold registration increases several years from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalina Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Seems like they could get a reading on the odometer when the state safety inspection is done, or when buying/selling, and charge a per mileage fee as an alternative to a gas tax. No charge for a traditional gas engine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Angry ginger said: looked up MN, it's $75 for an EV. $75 on top of his already over the top MN registration dues for vehicles 10 years and newer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Catalina said: Seems like they could get a reading on the odometer when the state safety inspection is done, or when buying/selling, and charge a per mileage fee as an alternative to a gas tax. No charge for a traditional gas engine. No inspections required in many states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat45 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Catalina said: Seems like they could get a reading on the odometer when the state safety inspection is done, or when buying/selling, and charge a per mileage fee as an alternative to a gas tax. No charge for a traditional gas engine. They have proposed a mileage tax, but theres alot of discussion on how to record the mileage accurately. 1 idea that's way out there is GPS type tracking, but of course they promise not to use it for anything but mileage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 22, 2021 Author Gold Member Share Posted January 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Fireball 440 said: No inspections required in many states. And if you don’t ever sell mileage won’t be known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 He never said double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFM Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mainecat said: He never said double. Fondle or touch inappropriately maybe ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 22, 2021 Author Gold Member Share Posted January 22, 2021 Double would pretty much be just indexed for inflation since the last hike.... it will happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 They should not hike GAS taxes to cover Electric Vehicles. If you register an electric car, then have a some type of BATTERY tax. Simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 22, 2021 Author Gold Member Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, racer254 said: They should not hike GAS taxes to cover Electric Vehicles. If you register an electric car, then have a some type of BATTERY tax. Simple. But they should raise the gas tax to pay for infrastructure... it hasn’t been raised since 1993. Nobody would even notice a 15 cent hike after a day or 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFM Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Gas taxes are supposed to be road use taxes. That’s the rub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, BOHICA said: But they should raise the gas tax to pay for infrastructure... it hasn’t been raised since 1993. Nobody would even notice a 15 cent hike after a day or 2 They have plenty of money to send all over the world. Vehicle Registrations have gone up and they have imposed wheel taxes all over. No way am I for raising a federal tax so that the money will get used on some high speed train in California. Edited January 22, 2021 by racer254 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, racer254 said: They should not hike GAS taxes to cover Electric Vehicles. If you register an electric car, then have a some type of BATTERY tax. Simple. Make a high gas tax now, and then get more people to switch, then hit em with a electric vehicle tax. Play it right and we can really stick it to the poor and middle class. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted January 22, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted January 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, racer254 said: They have plenty of money to send all over the world. Vehicle Registrations have gone up and they have imposed wheel taxes all over. No way am I for raising a federal tax so that the money will get used on some high speed train in California. Exactly budget the money there already getting better. We got enough to blow on tons of bs that has nothing to do with America bring some of that back and rebuild your infrastructure don’t keep taxing the working man more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, Cold War said: Make a high gas tax now, and then get more people to switch, then hit em with a electric vehicle tax. Play it right and we can really stick it to the poor and middle class. Bingo. Honestly, who really is convinced that we need to raise taxes? FFS, people need to stop believing this line of crap where we need more taxes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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