Who takes credit for the vaccine?

[teamgreen02]

Which is it fellas?  Can't be both and there is no president elect option.

https://www.facebook.com/579515442/videos/10157326952650443/

[CFM]

It’s both. Takes the whole team.

A tire changer can most definitely say he helped because he did !

[Highmark]

I'm likely to believe the Pharm's were given the vaccine by the Military.   3 companies create almost identical vaccines we were told was virtually impossible simultaneously?   Come on people use common sense!   Makes me think China's enemies have been preparing for this since 2003.   Not hard to hide having the vaccine but it would be hard to have 300 million doses sitting around.  

Why aren't we hearing about the amazing scientists that made these break throughs?   There had to be some individuals who had significant roles in their creation. 

Edited December 22, 2020 by Highmark

[teamgreen02]

24 minutes ago, CFM said:

It’s both. Takes the whole team.

A tire changer can most definitely say he helped because he did !

Always playing in down the middle.  Pick a side damnit!

[XCR1250]

25 minutes ago, CFM said:

It’s both. Takes the whole team.

A tire changer can most definitely say he helped because he did !

Yes it does.

[Zambroski]

17 minutes ago, Highmark said:

I'm likely to believe the Pharm's were given the vaccine by the Military.   3 companies create almost identical vaccines simultaneously?   Come on people use common sense!   Makes me think China's enemies have been preparing for this since 2003.   Not hard to hide having the vaccine but it would be hard to have 300 million doses sitting around.  

Why aren't we hearing about the amazing scientists that made these break throughs?   There had to be some individuals who had significant roles in their creation. 

This.

Just now, teamgreen02 said:

Always playing in down the middle.  Pick a side damnit!

Well, let's not pretend like DC doesn't work hand in hand with big Pharma/big business either.  

This whole thing is fucking crock of shit.

[Anler]

Trump should get some credit for sure. 

[CFM]

13 minutes ago, teamgreen02 said:

Always playing in down the middle.  Pick a side damnit!

What ?

Barely. How about right side of gov't and the private sector.

I have a sibling that helped build and design some of these vaccine places. Without the gov't this time, things wouldn't have gone so fast ! 

[Blackstar]

From what I heard in an interview with a medical expert, this vaccine already existed. It was developed in response to the previous Corona viruses. They just modified it to work for COVID-19.

Does still seem strange that several pharmaceutical companies all had products available within a couple weeks of each other.

[Highmark]

12 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

This.

Well, let's not pretend like DC doesn't work hand in hand with big Pharma/big business either.  

This whole thing is fucking crock of shit.

How many were they producing during the "trials."   They sure can make them fast. 

[teamgreen02]

10 minutes ago, CFM said:

What ?

Barely. How about right side of gov't and the private sector.

I have a sibling that helped build and design some of these vaccine places. Without the gov't this time, things wouldn't have gone so fast ! 

Some of the early work was done at universities, long before anyone knew was covid-19 was.  Pretty amazing technology that was in the pipeline and could be adapted quickly by big pharma.  They had already been working on commercializing it for quite some time.

https://www.businessinsider.com/mrna-vaccine-pfizer-moderna-coronavirus-2020-12?utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=topbar

[ActionfigureJoe]

59 minutes ago, Highmark said:

I'm likely to believe the Pharm's were given the vaccine by the Military.   3 companies create almost identical vaccines we were told was virtually impossible simultaneously?   Come on people use common sense!   Makes me think China's enemies have been preparing for this since 2003.   Not hard to hide having the vaccine but it would be hard to have 300 million doses sitting around.  

Why aren't we hearing about the amazing scientists that made these break throughs?   There had to be some individuals who had significant roles in their creation. 

By the military.  

[teamgreen02]

58 minutes ago, Highmark said:

I'm likely to believe the Pharm's were given the vaccine by the Military.   3 companies create almost identical vaccines simultaneously?   Come on people use common sense!   Makes me think China's enemies have been preparing for this since 2003.   Not hard to hide having the vaccine but it would be hard to have 300 million doses sitting around.  

Why aren't we hearing about the amazing scientists that made these break throughs?   There had to be some individuals who had significant roles in their creation. 

The methods were out there for a long time.  Patents were given which basically outlines how the technology works.  Others got around it by doing something similar, but different enough.  

[Tinker]

Operation Warp Speed, another credit to his name

[ActionfigureJoe]

40 minutes ago, Anler said:

Trump should get some credit for sure. 

He’ll take all he can get.  

[favoritos]

It really comes down to a couple of scientists that wouldn't give up on an idea.

It is pretty incredible how much this approach to fighting disease is going to change our future.  One of the most amazing aspects is the fact that it is also cheap.

The long relied upon method of growing virus to create antibodies is slow and creates expense.  It is also hard to adapt the vaccine to each new variant unless they try to do a one size fits all approach.  Again, another slow process that also involves guessing which variants to include.

I'm sure that a long list of people will stand in line to try and take credit.  Chest pumping is part of human nature and some do it better than the rest.  Some of the credit should be given to the funding process and volunteers for testing.  Simultaneous stage testing is a big part of the speed this time.  Sadly, a whole pile of people getting sick and dying also created a ton of data.  The fact that Covid has been tracked as a functional single disease has allowed sickness and death to be used as a real statistical tool.  In some ways we all contribute to that process just by going out and playing in the minefield.  The more we play, the more data we provide.  Ironically, most of us can give ourselves a pat on the back and take credit.

[teamgreen02]

6 minutes ago, favoritos said:

It really comes down to a couple of scientists that wouldn't give up on an idea.

It is pretty incredible how much this approach to fighting disease is going to change our future.  One of the most amazing aspects is the fact that it is also cheap.

The long relied upon method of growing virus to create antibodies is slow and creates expense.  It is also hard to adapt the vaccine to each new variant unless they try to do a one size fits all approach.  Again, another slow process that also involves guessing which variants to include.

I'm sure that a long list of people will stand in line to try and take credit.  Chest pumping is part of human nature and some do it better than the rest.  Some of the credit should be given to the funding process and volunteers for testing.  Simultaneous stage testing is a big part of the speed this time.  Sadly, a whole pile of people getting sick and dying also created a ton of data.  The fact that Covid has been tracked as a functional single disease has allowed sickness and death to be used as a real statistical tool.  In some ways we all contribute to that process just by going out and playing in the minefield.  The more we play, the more data we provide.  Ironically, most of us can give ourselves a pat on the back and take credit.

Will a similar method be used on the seasonal flu vaccines do you think?  

[Jimmy Snacks]

8 minutes ago, favoritos said:

It really comes down to a couple of scientists that wouldn't give up on an idea.

It is pretty incredible how much this approach to fighting disease is going to change our future.  One of the most amazing aspects is the fact that it is also cheap.

The long relied upon method of growing virus to create antibodies is slow and creates expense.  It is also hard to adapt the vaccine to each new variant unless they try to do a one size fits all approach.  Again, another slow process that also involves guessing which variants to include.

I'm sure that a long list of people will stand in line to try and take credit.  Chest pumping is part of human nature and some do it better than the rest.  Some of the credit should be given to the funding process and volunteers for testing.  Simultaneous stage testing is a big part of the speed this time.  Sadly, a whole pile of people getting sick and dying also created a ton of data.  The fact that Covid has been tracked as a functional single disease has allowed sickness and death to be used as a real statistical tool.  In some ways we all contribute to that process just by going out and playing in the minefield.  The more we play, the more data we provide.  Ironically, most of us can give ourselves a pat on the back and take credit.

Thanks for yet another informative post.👍🏼

[ActionfigureJoe]

16 minutes ago, teamgreen02 said:

Will a similar method be used on the seasonal flu vaccines do you think?  

mRna vaccines have been developed for the flu, zika, and rabies with mediocre results. Concerns remain about localized and systemic inflammation from those vaccines. This is the first time an mRNA vaccine has been widely used. No one knows the outcome. 

[Angry ginger]

I think gingers should get credit.  We are using this vaccine as another way to steal your souls.    

 

 

[favoritos]

8 minutes ago, teamgreen02 said:

Will a similar method be used on the seasonal flu vaccines do you think?  

This is going to way beyond something like the simple flu.

Way beyond. . .

You will be shocked in the near future at some of the body ravaging diseases.  The approach of "turning the switch" opens up a whole world of developing treatments.  The method also uses information like the disease and bodies genetic code to create a defense.  It's huge. 

Nothing is ever perfect, but we are witnessing something beyond anything we even imagined if very recent history.

It is interesting that we are getting so caught up in the idiosyncrasies of people taking and handing out credit for this fight.  We will look back at this time in a very different way going forward.  This is a different game now.  The scientists that worked so hard for years didn't see this coming.  We are at the Spencer Silver, Art Fry and his hymn book point. 

[FrankieJames7]

1 hour ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

He’ll take all he can get.  

And u will start 8 threads why he shouldn't get any.

[ActionfigureJoe]

1 minute ago, FrankieJames7 said:

And u will start 8 threads why he shouldn't get any.

What? For doing his job? 

[ActionfigureJoe]

5 minutes ago, favoritos said:

This is going to way beyond something like the simple flu.

Way beyond. . .

You will be shocked in the near future at some of the body ravaging diseases.  The approach of "turning the switch" opens up a whole world of developing treatments.  The method also uses information like the disease and bodies genetic code to create a defense.  It's huge. 

Nothing is ever perfect, but we are witnessing something beyond anything we even imagined if very recent history.

It is interesting that we are getting so caught up in the idiosyncrasies of people taking and handing out credit for this fight.  We will look back at this time in a very different way going forward.  This is a different game now.  The scientists that worked so hard for years didn't see this coming.  We are at the Spencer Silver, Art Fry and his hymn book point. 

What’s been the track record of mRNA vaccines? Far less than miraculous. 

[FrankieJames7]

1 minute ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

What? For doing his job? 

He did do his job. So called medical experts said  18 months to 2 yrs for a vaccine. Democrats said they wouldn't take the vaccine backed by Trump.