Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 1, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 1, 2020 Good god this guy is a massive POS.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Fuck him and the Republican Party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Preexisting conditions are important to the middle section of voters. Trump needs to be real careful around this issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Angry ginger said: Preexisting conditions are important to the middle section of voters. Trump needs to be real careful around this issue. They should be important to everybody and you're right, if Republicans fuck that up it will cost Trump dearly. Funny how healthcare has become a political issue and 25+ years ago it wasn't, that's what happens when healthcare becomes unaffordable because the healthcare providers, Ins. companies and pharma have gotten way too greedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, snoughnut said: They should be important to everybody and you're right, if Republicans fuck that up it will cost Trump dearly. Funny how healthcare has become a political issue and 25+ years ago it wasn't, that's what happens when healthcare becomes unaffordable because the healthcare providers, Ins. companies and pharma have gotten way too greedy. Ever since the Affordable Care Act, health care has only gotten more expensive. It never got more affordable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, Fireball 440 said: Ever since the Affordable Care Act, health care has only gotten more expensive. It never got more affordable. no real change IMO of costs due to ACA. it did remove some borderline policies that worked for some peoples situation but healthcare costs were already out of control prior to Obama and post Obama. Until someone is willing to attack the real costs and consider rationing healthcare it is not going to get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: no real change IMO of costs due to ACA. it did remove some borderline policies that worked for some peoples situation but healthcare costs were already out of control prior to Obama and post Obama. Until someone is willing to attack the real costs and consider rationing healthcare it is not going to get better. Monthly premiums are higher, max out of pocket a used to be $1350, now $3500. That's just myself. In January my premiums go up another 9%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 26 minutes ago, Fireball 440 said: Ever since the Affordable Care Act, health care has only gotten more expensive. It never got more affordable. I never said it got more affordable, it's been that way for a long time regardless of the ACA. The bottom line is it is unaffordable for alot of people because of the greed in the industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Fireball 440 said: Monthly premiums are higher, max out of pocket a used to be $1350, now $3500. That's just myself. In January my premiums go up another 9%. That's pretty reasonable, I had a GIST tumor removed 2 years ago and my out of pocket was $6000 and I paid it because I have an emergency fun for that reason. Most people I talk to today, their max out of pocket per person is any where between $4000 - $8000. Imagine how many people out there who could never pay that if something happened to them? The answer is alot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Fireball 440 said: Monthly premiums are higher, max out of pocket a used to be $1350, now $3500. That's just myself. In January my premiums go up another 9%. those type of increases were happening prior to the ACA as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 hours ago, snoughnut said: Funny how healthcare has become a political issue and 25+ years ago it wasn't, that's what happens when healthcare becomes unaffordable because the healthcare providers, Ins. companies and pharma have gotten way too greedy. well trump clearly and concisely laid out his detailed plan he's had 4 years to craft that will fix all that the other night. oh wait..... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, frenchy said: well trump clearly and concisely laid out his detailed plan he's had 4 years to craft that will fix all that the other night. oh wait..... He’s going to reveal the plan any day now!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Ted cruz is a cunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, SSFB said: He’s going to reveal the plan any day now!!!! it was like a complete surprise question when it was asked of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, frenchy said: well trump clearly and concisely laid out his detailed plan he's had 4 years to craft that will fix all that the other night. oh wait..... I like surprises, don't you? The difference is whether good or bad, you don't have to worry, you're Canadian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, snoughnut said: I like surprises, don't you? The difference is whether good or bad, you don't have to worry, you're Canadian. it was a simple observation. sorry my comment on it offends you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 2, 2020 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, frenchy said: it was a simple observation. sorry my comment on it offends you. Any comment that even hints at criticism of Trump sets off alarm bells in Curds fat laden head.🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 36 minutes ago, frenchy said: well trump clearly and concisely laid out his detailed plan he's had 4 years to craft that will fix all that the other night. oh wait..... This is the #1 thing that's pissed me off with him. He's done nothing to repeal and replace. I don't see the old geezer and Kameltoe doing anything either though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 hours ago, snoughnut said: That's pretty reasonable, I had a GIST tumor removed 2 years ago and my out of pocket was $6000 and I paid it because I have an emergency fun for that reason. Most people I talk to today, their max out of pocket per person is any where between $4000 - $8000. Imagine how many people out there who could never pay that if something happened to them? The answer is alot. Someone will pay it, that's for sure. It won't be the participating party though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, hayward said: This is the #1 thing that's pissed me off with him. He's done nothing to repeal and replace. I don't see the old geezer and Kameltoe doing anything either though. exactly my point. It's like he had never even thought abut it until the question was asked of him on tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, frenchy said: it was a simple observation. sorry my comment on it offends you. I wasn't offended, I thought it was funny, unlike that fat ankle biting walrus below. 3 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Any comment that even hints at criticism of Trump sets off alarm bells in Curds fat laden head.🤣 Just like clockwork, the resident Fatboix cunt from Charlevoix comes waddling in like a walrus. Bored this evening? What am I saying, that's normal for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, frenchy said: it was like a complete surprise question when it was asked of him. Well he rightfully assumes his supporters don’t remember that supposed plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 4 hours ago, snoughnut said: They should be important to everybody and you're right, if Republicans fuck that up it will cost Trump dearly. Funny how healthcare has become a political issue and 25+ years ago it wasn't, that's what happens when healthcare becomes unaffordable because the healthcare providers, Ins. companies and pharma have gotten way too greedy. Any time insurance is involved shit gets real expensive . Look at body shops. And exterior construction for examples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 hours ago, snoughnut said: That's pretty reasonable, I had a GIST tumor removed 2 years ago and my out of pocket was $6000 and I paid it because I have an emergency fun for that reason. Most people I talk to today, their max out of pocket per person is any where between $4000 - $8000. Imagine how many people out there who could never pay that if something happened to them? The answer is alot. Most of those people qualify for Medicade and pay like 5 bucks a visit and 3 bucks for scripts . I have a 16k deductible now . Total bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted October 2, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, frenchy said: well trump clearly and concisely laid out his detailed plan he's had 4 years to craft that will fix all that the other night. oh wait..... 1 hour ago, SSFB said: He’s going to reveal the plan any day now!!!! 51 minutes ago, hayward said: This is the #1 thing that's pissed me off with him. He's done nothing to repeal and replace. I don't see the old geezer and Kameltoe doing anything either though. 17 minutes ago, SSFB said: Well he rightfully assumes his supporters don’t remember that supposed plan. I hear November 10th, Going up for a vote...Trump has been saying it for a few months now?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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