How long?

[f7ben]

38 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

They’ve already one.  They send us a virus that is really serious and we’re done.  We’re weak.

Do you think in phonetics?

[Zambroski]

2 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Do you think in phonetics?

I’m still way foggy from last nigt so, fuck off!

[1jkw]

 

Won't happen, but if it did they would have Russia, NK, Iran, and Syria on their side, and soft if any support from SK and Japan for us.

[Anler]

6 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

 

Won't happen, but if it did they would have Russia, NK, Iran, and Syria on their side, and soft if any support from SK and Japan for us.

It's been planned by the Pentagon years ago. 

Here is a recent link but if you Google you will find older links.

https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2018/01/30/the-pentagon-is-planning-for-war-with-china-and-russia-can-it-handle-both/

[Anler]

Trump has been preparing you for this for years. 

[Carlos Danger]

The vast majority of the population of the planet lives in China, India and the pacific rim but somehow we as Americans think that our measly little population of 300 million should run things?  We will end up like England eventually, relevant but not in charge.  

[1jkw]

47 minutes ago, Anler said:

It's been planned by the Pentagon years ago. 

Here is a recent link but if you Google you will find older links.

https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2018/01/30/the-pentagon-is-planning-for-war-with-china-and-russia-can-it-handle-both/

No doubt they need to plan, just don't see the plan being executed.

[Woodtick]

1 hour ago, Anler said:

I do like fried rice!

Tripe egg rolls with 10 packs of sweet and sour. And mine as well get a order of crab raccoon with the fried lice. Damn it,now I’m hungry.

[XCR1250]

https://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=4100&tid=200&ct=4

[Anler]

18 minutes ago, Woodtick said:

Tripe egg rolls with 10 packs of sweet and sour. And mine as well get a order of crab raccoon with the fried lice. Damn it,now I’m hungry.

Tripe? Wtf?

[Woodtick]

14 minutes ago, Anler said:

Tripe? Wtf?

That’s what’s in most beef egg rolls. Did you think they used steak? I used to do the refrigeration at a big egg roll factory on the west side. 

[Jimmy Snacks]

20 minutes ago, Anler said:

Tripe? Wtf?

 

2 minutes ago, Woodtick said:

That’s what’s in most beef egg rolls. Did you think they used steak? I used to do the refrigeration at a big egg roll factory on the west side. 

[Anler]

50 minutes ago, Woodtick said:

That’s what’s in most beef egg rolls. Did you think they used steak? I used to do the refrigeration at a big egg roll factory on the west side. 

They use chop suey vegetables and those disgusting little shrimps, not tripe you asshole. You're thinking of beaners!

[Edmo]

7 minutes ago, Anler said:

They use chop suey vegetables and those disgusting little shrimps, not tripe you asshole. You're thinking of beaners!

My grandma ate tripe. The thought of it makes me want to hurl.

[Woodtick]

12 minutes ago, Anler said:

They use chop suey vegetables and those disgusting little shrimps, not tripe you asshole. You're thinking of beaners!

You probably shouldn’t order the beef egg rolls fuckface. They use tripe. 

[Guest]

Where did China gain the economic advantage over the US? 

In the last 20 years or so, BY AMERICAN BUSINESSMEN, outsourcing to the fukkers!

America corporations did us in, for their profit line. 

Don't blame China. BLAME THE AMERICAN MOTHER-FUKKIN BUSINESSMAN. 

[Anler]

Do we really think this is about COVID19? Making shit up again... 

 

A World Health Crisis? – So Ramp Up Confrontation and Deploy Nuclear Bombers

written by brian cloughley

wednesday may 13, 2020

The Pentagon is excelling itself in its enthusiastic march to war. There are countless thousands suffering from the effects of the Covid-19 virus, including hundreds of members of the US armed services, while the world’s despots are relishing their freedom to persecute minorities, and the poor and downtrodden are dying in hideous misery because of starvation and lack of medical care. But the propaganda war against China continues, concurrent with ramping up of anti-China confrontation by Washington in its ongoing deployment of nuclear attack warships and bombers to the Western Pacific and the South China Sea.

The propaganda campaign is intriguing, and although amateur and absurd in content and dissemination its message is believed by many of the millions at whom it is directed. The focus of the latest barbs is aimed at convincing the western world that China is responsible for the spread of Covid-19 – what the President of the United States and his Secretary of State refer to as the “China virus” – and it is not surprising that the major outlet for the latest Goebbels’ gambols is News Corp [sic; chaired by the egregious Rupert Murdoch] whose Australian Saturday Telegraph headlined on 4 May that “China deliberately suppressed or destroyed evidence of the coronavirus outbreak in an ‘assault on international transparency’’ that cost tens of thousands of lives, according to a dossier prepared by concerned Western governments on the COVID-19 contagion. The 15-page research document, obtained by The Saturday Telegraph, lays the foundation for the case of negligence being mounted against China.”

The report was given much cover by Fox News in the US (owned and directed by Rupert Murdoch) which noted that “A research dossier compiled by the so-called ‘Five Eyes’ intelligence alliance, that reportedly concludes China intentionally hid or destroyed evidence of the coronavirus pandemic, is consistent with US findings about the origins of the outbreak so far, senior US officials told Fox News on Saturday [ May 2].” The reporter who produced the Telegraph story, ‘National Political Editor’ Sharri Markson, declared on Fox News next day that “It’s very clear from this 15-page dossier that has been prepared by concerned western governments that China deliberately covered up evidence of the virus early on in a pure case of negligence… this directly contributed to thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people getting sick and dying.”

It was utter nonsense, of course, and was therefore seized upon by the UK’s gutter tabloid the Daily Mail which informed its millions of readers that “Bombshell ‘Five Eyes’ Western intelligence dossier claims China lied about coronavirus.” To give them their due, the majority of the UK media declined to spread such garbage, but the stink has lingered in spite of the revelation on 7 May that “Australia has determined the report is not a Five Eyes intelligence document. It is not believed to include original intelligence from human sources or electronic intercepts.” Of course not. But that doesn’t matter to the propaganda-meisters who scored a victory over truth and decency.

And even supposedly respectable organisations are not averse to slanting information when there is an opportunity. As pointed out by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, “United States Strategic Command, the branch of the US military responsible for the nation’s nuclear weapons, recently released an imperially misleading infographic on Twitter. The graphic is confused – not only about when to use bold typeface, but also about the facts.” The graphic claims that “Russia, China, North Korea and Iran pursue new nuclear weapons and delivery systems to threaten the world” while, as the Bulletin points out “there’s no mention of Russia’s dramatic reductions [in numbers of nuclear weapons], which have outpaced those of the United States. Since 1990, the Russian stockpile has declined from roughly 37,000 warheads to 4,310 – an 88 percent decrease.” But the head of US Strategic Command, Admiral Charles Richard, tweeted on 3 May that “The threats we face today and in the future are real, and have not changed during the pandemic. While we continue to seek and provide for a safe and secure world, others continue to act provocatively and irresponsibly.”

Perhaps nobody told Admiral Richard that the US has 3,800 nuclear weapons while China has 300. And while his Command is alleging provocation and irresponsibility by China he should bear in mind the report on 30 April that “The US military continued its weeklong show of force in the South China Sea with a sortie over the contested waters by two Air Force bombers. The B-1B Lancers from the 28th Bomb Wing at Ellsworth Air Force Base, S.D., flew a 32-hour round trip to conduct operations over the sea as part of a joint bomber task force by the US Indo-Pacific Command and US Strategic Command.” Not only this, but in the waters of the South China Sea “The guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill sailed near the Spratlys on Wednesday as part of its so-called freedom-of-navigation operations” and “on Tuesday, the guided-missile destroyer USS Barry sailed near the Paracel Islands.” Provocation, anybody?

The Pentagon’s 2019 Report to Congress about China’s ‘Military and Security Developments’ notes that the Chinese navy’s “latest surface and subsurface platforms enable combat operations beyond the reach of China’s land-based defences. In particular, China’s aircraft carrier and planned follow-on carriers, once operational, will extend air defence coverage beyond the range of coastal and shipboard missile systems and will enable task group operations at increasingly longer ranges.” But nobody can believe that China will “follow-on” in the foreseeable future to the extent that it will have anything like the eleven nuclear-powered, nuclear-armed aircraft carriers that the US Navy deploys all over the world.

The Covid-19 pandemic is a world crisis that should have resulted in all nations getting together and cooperating in every possible way to control the spread of the virus, combat its physical and economic consequences, and produce and administer an immunity vaccine. Instead, the priority of Trump Washington has been to denigrate China in every way possible. The exchange between Secretary of State Pompeo and Martha Raddatz on ABC television made this clear, when he was asked “Do you believe coronavirus was man-made?” to which he replied that “the best experts seem to think so.” Martha Raddatz wasn’t going to let him get away with that and pointed out that “the Director of National Intelligence says the consensus is it wasn’t.” Pompeo’s lame but most revelatory counter to her line of questioning was “What’s important is the Communist Party could’ve prevented this.”

And to further challenge the Communist Party, the Pentagon’s aggressive operations around China’s shores include the USS Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group along with “the amphibious assault ship USS America, smaller than the Reagan but carrying F-35B Lightning II stealth strike fighters” and the USS Nimitz Strike Group is about to leave San Diego for an undisclosed Indo-Pacific mission. The health crisis affected the US fleet, and there will be yet more instances of virus infection, but the Chief of Naval operations, Admiral Gilday declared that in spite of the world health emergency the US navy has “a duty to ensure we are ready to respond. We cannot simply take a knee or keep everyone in port until this enemy is defeated. We are America’s away team. The uncertainty caused by [the coronavirus] makes our mission of protecting America at sea more important than ever. That is why the US Navy continues to operate forward every day.”

So now we know. Forget the world health crisis. Concentrate on confronting China. The “away team” is considered to be Washington’s route to a peaceful and prosperous future.

[Im4snow]

On 5/10/2020 at 9:27 AM, Anler said:

Before we are at war with China?

Would be fascinating to hear high level conversations in DC about this subject.  It's been communicated imo that a new version of a cold war has already started....IP theft, currency manipulation, deindustrialization of the US.  United States of China, I hope I miss the ride.  

[Anler]

2 minutes ago, Im4snow said:

Would be fascinating to hear high level conversations in DC about this subject.  It's been communicated imo that a new version of a cold war has already started....IP theft, currency manipulation, deindustrialization of the US.  United States of China, I hope I miss the ride.  

Look up!

 

[Im4snow]

2 hours ago, Anler said:

Look up!

 

The stuff thats not public info

[Highmark]

On 5/10/2020 at 8:39 AM, Anler said:

Different kind of warfare. They own a significant amount of us and global corps. And they are the dominate producer in the world. They can single handedly crash the world market. Cyber warfare, economic warfare, bio-warfare and there is over a billion of those pricks. Not to mention we have not been making alot of friends around the world. They may have some allies. Either way I wouldnt be too confident about an "overwhelming victory". We haven't won a war in a long time. 

We haven't had full commitment in a war since WW2.   Victory is also dependent on what the end goal is.   Not sure we've fully committed to unconditional surrender since WW2 either.  

[Highmark]

2 hours ago, Anler said:

Do we really think this is about COVID19? Making shit up again... 

 

A World Health Crisis? – So Ramp Up Confrontation and Deploy Nuclear Bombers

written by brian cloughley

wednesday may 13, 2020

The Pentagon is excelling itself in its enthusiastic march to war. There are countless thousands suffering from the effects of the Covid-19 virus, including hundreds of members of the US armed services, while the world’s despots are relishing their freedom to persecute minorities, and the poor and downtrodden are dying in hideous misery because of starvation and lack of medical care. But the propaganda war against China continues, concurrent with ramping up of anti-China confrontation by Washington in its ongoing deployment of nuclear attack warships and bombers to the Western Pacific and the South China Sea.

The propaganda campaign is intriguing, and although amateur and absurd in content and dissemination its message is believed by many of the millions at whom it is directed. The focus of the latest barbs is aimed at convincing the western world that China is responsible for the spread of Covid-19 – what the President of the United States and his Secretary of State refer to as the “China virus” – and it is not surprising that the major outlet for the latest Goebbels’ gambols is News Corp [sic; chaired by the egregious Rupert Murdoch] whose Australian Saturday Telegraph headlined on 4 May that “China deliberately suppressed or destroyed evidence of the coronavirus outbreak in an ‘assault on international transparency’’ that cost tens of thousands of lives, according to a dossier prepared by concerned Western governments on the COVID-19 contagion. The 15-page research document, obtained by The Saturday Telegraph, lays the foundation for the case of negligence being mounted against China.”

The report was given much cover by Fox News in the US (owned and directed by Rupert Murdoch) which noted that “A research dossier compiled by the so-called ‘Five Eyes’ intelligence alliance, that reportedly concludes China intentionally hid or destroyed evidence of the coronavirus pandemic, is consistent with US findings about the origins of the outbreak so far, senior US officials told Fox News on Saturday [ May 2].” The reporter who produced the Telegraph story, ‘National Political Editor’ Sharri Markson, declared on Fox News next day that “It’s very clear from this 15-page dossier that has been prepared by concerned western governments that China deliberately covered up evidence of the virus early on in a pure case of negligence… this directly contributed to thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people getting sick and dying.”

It was utter nonsense, of course, and was therefore seized upon by the UK’s gutter tabloid the Daily Mail which informed its millions of readers that “Bombshell ‘Five Eyes’ Western intelligence dossier claims China lied about coronavirus.” To give them their due, the majority of the UK media declined to spread such garbage, but the stink has lingered in spite of the revelation on 7 May that “Australia has determined the report is not a Five Eyes intelligence document. It is not believed to include original intelligence from human sources or electronic intercepts.” Of course not. But that doesn’t matter to the propaganda-meisters who scored a victory over truth and decency.

And even supposedly respectable organisations are not averse to slanting information when there is an opportunity. As pointed out by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, “United States Strategic Command, the branch of the US military responsible for the nation’s nuclear weapons, recently released an imperially misleading infographic on Twitter. The graphic is confused – not only about when to use bold typeface, but also about the facts.” The graphic claims that “Russia, China, North Korea and Iran pursue new nuclear weapons and delivery systems to threaten the world” while, as the Bulletin points out “there’s no mention of Russia’s dramatic reductions [in numbers of nuclear weapons], which have outpaced those of the United States. Since 1990, the Russian stockpile has declined from roughly 37,000 warheads to 4,310 – an 88 percent decrease.” But the head of US Strategic Command, Admiral Charles Richard, tweeted on 3 May that “The threats we face today and in the future are real, and have not changed during the pandemic. While we continue to seek and provide for a safe and secure world, others continue to act provocatively and irresponsibly.”

Perhaps nobody told Admiral Richard that the US has 3,800 nuclear weapons while China has 300. And while his Command is alleging provocation and irresponsibility by China he should bear in mind the report on 30 April that “The US military continued its weeklong show of force in the South China Sea with a sortie over the contested waters by two Air Force bombers. The B-1B Lancers from the 28th Bomb Wing at Ellsworth Air Force Base, S.D., flew a 32-hour round trip to conduct operations over the sea as part of a joint bomber task force by the US Indo-Pacific Command and US Strategic Command.” Not only this, but in the waters of the South China Sea “The guided-missile cruiser USS Bunker Hill sailed near the Spratlys on Wednesday as part of its so-called freedom-of-navigation operations” and “on Tuesday, the guided-missile destroyer USS Barry sailed near the Paracel Islands.” Provocation, anybody?

The Pentagon’s 2019 Report to Congress about China’s ‘Military and Security Developments’ notes that the Chinese navy’s “latest surface and subsurface platforms enable combat operations beyond the reach of China’s land-based defences. In particular, China’s aircraft carrier and planned follow-on carriers, once operational, will extend air defence coverage beyond the range of coastal and shipboard missile systems and will enable task group operations at increasingly longer ranges.” But nobody can believe that China will “follow-on” in the foreseeable future to the extent that it will have anything like the eleven nuclear-powered, nuclear-armed aircraft carriers that the US Navy deploys all over the world.

The Covid-19 pandemic is a world crisis that should have resulted in all nations getting together and cooperating in every possible way to control the spread of the virus, combat its physical and economic consequences, and produce and administer an immunity vaccine. Instead, the priority of Trump Washington has been to denigrate China in every way possible. The exchange between Secretary of State Pompeo and Martha Raddatz on ABC television made this clear, when he was asked “Do you believe coronavirus was man-made?” to which he replied that “the best experts seem to think so.” Martha Raddatz wasn’t going to let him get away with that and pointed out that “the Director of National Intelligence says the consensus is it wasn’t.” Pompeo’s lame but most revelatory counter to her line of questioning was “What’s important is the Communist Party could’ve prevented this.”

And to further challenge the Communist Party, the Pentagon’s aggressive operations around China’s shores include the USS Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group along with “the amphibious assault ship USS America, smaller than the Reagan but carrying F-35B Lightning II stealth strike fighters” and the USS Nimitz Strike Group is about to leave San Diego for an undisclosed Indo-Pacific mission. The health crisis affected the US fleet, and there will be yet more instances of virus infection, but the Chief of Naval operations, Admiral Gilday declared that in spite of the world health emergency the US navy has “a duty to ensure we are ready to respond. We cannot simply take a knee or keep everyone in port until this enemy is defeated. We are America’s away team. The uncertainty caused by [the coronavirus] makes our mission of protecting America at sea more important than ever. That is why the US Navy continues to operate forward every day.”

So now we know. Forget the world health crisis. Concentrate on confronting China. The “away team” is considered to be Washington’s route to a peaceful and prosperous future.

Just what exactly do you think world leaders would be saying if this virus came from the US?   Especially under similar circumstances of this one?

[Anler]

19 minutes ago, Highmark said:

We haven't had full commitment in a war since WW2.   Victory is also dependent on what the end goal is.   Not sure we've fully committed to unconditional surrender since WW2 either.  

So we are just fucking off money? 

[Highmark]

3 hours ago, Anler said:

So we are just fucking off money? 

Yes fighting with the gloves on and not having complete, unconditional surrender as the end goal its throwing money down the drain.   

[Anler]

31 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Yes fighting with the gloves on and not having complete, unconditional surrender as the end goal its throwing money down the drain.   

Against countries who never attacked us?