f7ben Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 There’s no way flipping that sleds starved it for oil. If it lost oil pressure it would have shut down immediately. Did it shut itself off woolie? I can’t recall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 17, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Snake said: Passed 4,000 trouble free (1 blown belt) miles on the sidewinder this weekend. And that helps Woolie how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: And that helps Woolie how? It doesn't. Wasn't meant to. Triggering you a little early this morning? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 17, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, Snake said: It doesn't. Wasn't meant to. Triggering you a little early this morning? Not triggered at all...being a dick a little early this morning MoeMoe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: Not triggered at all...being a dick a little early this morning MoeMoe? I don't think I am being a dick. Hell, I was invited on this ride. Were you?? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: And that helps Woolie how? Cause you and wollie are BFFs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: Cause you and wollie are BFFs. And I an the evil antagonist!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Cause you and wollie are BFFs. If you can’t mess with your friends, who are you going to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, f7ben said: There’s no way flipping that sleds starved it for oil. If it lost oil pressure it would have shut down immediately. Did it shut itself off woolie? I can’t recall I would suspect the cylinder got loaded with oil and the connecting rod was damaged? When he gave her hell on the next trip, it let go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Edmo said: If you can’t mess with your friends, who are you going to? Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Edmo said: If you can’t mess with your friends, who are you going to? EVERYONE.....as long as you can make fun of yourself too! 12 minutes ago, Woodtick said: I would suspect the cylinder got loaded with oil and the connecting rod was damaged? When he gave her hell on the next trip, it let go? I think this is a warranty claim all day long. I wish Woolie the best with it. Ski doo is pretty top notch on backing their product though so, he’s got that going for him. Still, middle of the season and to be at the mercy of dealers/warranty/insurance adjusters. Sucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, f7ben said: There’s no way flipping that sleds starved it for oil. If it lost oil pressure it would SHOULD have shut down immediately. Did it shut itself off woolie? I can’t recall No I had to hit the kill switch to shut it off. 2 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: And that helps Woolie how? Stay out of it, k? 2 hours ago, Snake said: And I an the evil antagonist!!! Yeah you didnt miss much. Put that baby on the roof and let her spin at redline for 10 seconds, Apparently tey’re not meant to do that. Edited February 17, 2020 by DriftBusta 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, Woodtick said: I would suspect the cylinder got loaded with oil and the connecting rod was damaged? When he gave her hell on the next trip, it let go? I don’t think that’s possible with a dry sump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: I don’t think that’s possible with a dry sump Your boy daiv says without question it's oil starvation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, f7ben said: I don’t think that’s possible with a dry sump I read about it after he flipped it a few weeks ago. The sled wouldn’t turn over,like it was locked up. He let it sit for awhile,few hours, then it fired back up. That tells me oil was logged up somewhere it shouldn’t have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, washedupmxer said: Your boy daiv says without question it's oil starvation Well if it was running when woolie shut it down it never lost oil pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, Woodtick said: I read about it after he flipped it a few weeks ago. The sled wouldn’t turn over,like it was locked up. He let it sit for awhile,few hours, then it fired back up. That tells me oil was logged up somewhere it shouldn’t have been. All the oil is in the oil tank , not the pan. It can’t just “run” into the cylinders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, f7ben said: Well if it was running when woolie shut it down it never lost oil pressure. I didn't think he was right either but you can't tell him anything Imo hydro lock slightly bent rod would cause hardcore ejection at high rpm more than low oil seizure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, f7ben said: All the oil is in the oil tank , not the pan. It can’t just “run” into the cylinders The connecting rod coming out of the side of the block sad you are wrong. It was running upside down. The oil pump was running its ass off at wide open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, f7ben said: I don’t think that’s possible with a dry sump I thought when it first happened that the cylinders were hydro or oil locked. An hour or two later when it started I just assumed the oil flowed back to the crankcase. It ran fine going back to camp, but I wasnt hard on the throttle. Then Saturday got to the first open field and grabbed a handful, got near the end of the field and it bogged, which was my first clue, it never did that before. Got to The dealer and replaced the 180 buck shield I had broken the night before, headed back to camp, grabbed another handful in that same field, and this time it completely uncunted itself. Dragged it back to the dealer, and they got it right in for me. He sent me those pics less than 2 hrs later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Woodtick said: I read about it after he flipped it a few weeks ago. The sled wouldn’t turn over,like it was locked up. He let it sit for awhile,few hours, then it fired back up. That tells me oil was logged up somewhere it shouldn’t have been. Thats what I thought too, but dealer had a different explanation that actually made more sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, DriftBusta said: Thats what I thought too, but dealer had a different explanation that actually made more sense. What were his thoughts, I’m curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, DriftBusta said: Thats what I thought too, but dealer had a different explanation that actually made more sense. I’m right and Bhen’s wrong,K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted February 17, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, washedupmxer said: I didn't think he was right either but you can't tell him anything Imo hydro lock slightly bent rod would cause hardcore ejection at high rpm more than low oil seizure Well once the motor is opened up it will tell the tail, if that rod bearing and crank are blued from lack of lube/heat it answers that. Wonder if doo tosses the good old white governor gear in there to see if it browns from excessive heat like most mfg's do.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, f7ben said: What were his thoughts, I’m curious Oil starvation. Damaged the lower end bearings. First time I put a load on the motor (the field 2 weeks later) it let go. I really dont care what happened, I have a warranty and insurance. One of them should cover it. A simple low speed rollover shouldnt destroy a 15,000 dollar sled. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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