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[Anler]

 

Trump Will Be Impeached. The Stupid Party Says, ‘Bring It On!’

written by james george jatras

saturday june 1, 2019

In the wake of Robert Mueller’s calculated handoff of the “Get Trump” portfolio to the Democrat-controlled House of Representatives, two things are evident.

First, President Donald J. Trump is virtually certain to be impeached. That’s manifest despite doddering House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s playing cute for now, seeking to ensure first that “we do want to make such a compelling case, such an ironclad case that even the Republican Senate, which at the time seems to be not an objective jury, will be convinced.” Translation: We don’t have the goods yet, but we expect to.

Second, like generals proverbially fighting the last war – namely, Republicans’ failed 1998 effort to oust Bill Clinton – many in the GOP have convinced themselves that a Trump impeachment will be unsuccessful and will only hurt the Democrats. Put another way, the Stupid Party once again rises to the occasion. Cue Karl Rove:

‘Knowing what they know today, if House Democrats move forward on the impeachment of President Trump, five things will happen.

‘First, swing voters will conclude the Democrats are conducting a highly partisan exercise.

‘Second, impeachment talk will largely or completely obscure anything else House Democrats will do legislatively. Voters could decide the Democrats are a do-nothing bunch.

‘Third, impeachment will play a much larger role in the Democratic presidential primary. The issue of impeachment will obscure the other messages of the Democratic presidential hopefuls and raise the prospect of a backlash against candidates like former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, who have yet to embrace impeachment.

‘Fourth, the Republican Senate will quickly dismiss any impeachment resolution passed by the House, killing the issue.

‘And finally, any of the dozens of vulnerable House Democrats in Republican-leaning districts who back impeachment will have given their GOP opponents a big issue.’ [Emphasis added]

Make no mistake, while the Democrats hope to wound Trump even if the attempt to remove him fails, they are deadly serious that they have a realistic shot at finishing him off. Moreover, they know that removing him by impeachment is a better prospect than beating him at the polls.

The Democrats are not at all sure about winning in 2020, not least because of the pathetic gaggle of so-called candidates they’ve got to offer. Thus their main goal in pursuing impeachment will not be to weaken Trump for 2020, it is – still – to get him out of the White House.

That’s because, as was the case in 2016, Trump’s the only GOP candidate who has a shot at winning. The Democrats want a sure thing. Having underestimated him in 2016 they don’t want to roll the dice again. Even though Trump has not turned out to be the transformative president that many of his supporters might have hoped for, he certainly will be the lesser of evils compared to whoever ends up the Democratic nominee. (Spoiler alert: it won’t be Tulsi Gabbard.) Worse from their point of view, he remains a toxic avatar of the old America they thought well and truly laid to rest once and for all. They can’t breathe easy while he remains in office lest he, however unlikely in view of his failures of performance, serve as a catalyst for revival of the historic American nation facing extinction at the hands of certified victim classes.

Rove refers to the Democrats’ “knowing what they know today,” but Pelosi has made it clear that they intend to know a lot more before they pull the trigger. All the fluff over “obstruction” is just to keep the pot boiling while they get to the real meat and potatoes. Let House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler and House Intelligence [sic] Committee Adam Schiff yammer about obstruction while multiple committees and New York state and city prosecutors keep digging: taxes, business skullduggery in New York real estate, babes, racism. Remember, they don’t need to find a crime, only something that will give enough Republicans in the Senate an excuse to give Trump the heave-ho.

Rove says the “Republican Senate will quickly dismiss any impeachment resolution passed by the House.” That’s nonsense, and Rove knows it. The relevant analogue to the upcoming Trump impeachment isn’t Clinton 1998, it’s Richard Nixon 1974. Bill Clinton literally could have raped Juanita Broaddrick in the middle of Fifth Avenue in broad daylight and the Democrats still would have circled the wagons to defend him, as they in fact did, without a single Democratic vote to convict. As it hardly needs be added, the media unanimously supported them.

Nixon, however, was done in by his own party when Senate GOP leaders told Tricky Dick (loathed by most of his party, as Trump is) that he had to resign or they would vote to remove him. That’s because Republicans are not only the Stupid Party, they’re the Cowardly Party. Depending on what the Democrats dig up on Trump, Republicans can be counted on to see scary editorials in the Washington Post andNew York Times and run away in panic: “I’ve always been supportive of the president, but I can’t defend that. So I have no choice but to …”

Add in the fact that between a quarter and a third of GOP Senators would jump at the chance to put a knife in Trump’s back if they got the opportunity, with prospective Brutus and sanctimonious warmonger Mitt Romney at the front of the line. At the appropriate time, establishment Republican poobahs like Rove will join them, basking in media praise for “putting country above party.”

Note that this is not a prediction that Trump will be removed, only that his impeachment will not be necessarily the futile exercise some claim because of the GOP majority in the Senate. It’s possible Trump will survive. The Democrats might come up empty on the required dirt. They may fall short of the number of Republicans they need to give him the “Nixon talk.” Even if Trump is given an ultimatum, he may decide, unlike Nixon, to fight – and he might actually win. But don’t take it as a given that impeachment won’t be a serious attempt to remove Trump that will only backfire on the Democrats. It might succeed.

If it doesn’t, with the advantages of incumbency Trump’s chances of winning reelection are better than even, though the landscape has become less favorable than it was in 2016. His base remains strong (most of his Deplorables think he’s actually delivering on his promises, because he says so in tweets and at his rallies. Look at that big, beautiful invisible nonexistent Wall! Winning!). On the other hand, failure to control our border means the demographic shift against Republicans has continued unabated, coupled with zero efforts to police voting by non-citizens and (notably in Florida) letting felons vote. If Trump loses either Florida or Pennsylvania, it’s probably all over even with a lousy Democratic opponent. That’s aside from whatever economic hiccup might occur between now and next fall. Or if Trump gets us into a war somewhere.

Finally, let’s note what was the most important substantive message from Mueller’s swan song: Russia! Russia! Russia!Mueller both began and ended his ramble with a denunciation of Russia’s supposed attack on the United States in 2016. Citing Mueller, Ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence [sic] Committee Mark Warner has called for redoubled efforts to pass “legislation that enhances election security, increases social media transparency”: a dog-whistle for the real threat to honest elections: using “Russian bots” and “hate speech” as justification for tech companies’ clampdown on dissent. Whatever happens to Trump, our dangerous enmity with Russia is permanent – and possibly passing the point of no return – while erosion of Americans’ freedoms will continue apace.

[DriftBusta]

Looks like Anler found a new website.  Good.  Maybe he’ll quit saying neocons and zionists so much.    PS:  cmon Democrats you can do this bring on impeachment!  Cant wait!

[Ez ryder]

God I hope they try it 

[Zambroski]

9 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Looks like Anler found a new website.  Good.  Maybe he’ll quit saying neocons and zionists so much.    PS:  cmon Democrats you can do this bring on impeachment!  Cant wait!

Meh...another Ron Paul Institute surfer.  “Both parties suck!” is our message and god damn it....well, that’s pretty much it.  Contrarian cookies for everybody!!!  

You know, the Libertarian party really has had a chance to do something and whiffed it in astonishingly amazing fashion.  Now, it appears they are just haters of the two party system.  “Vote for us because we are  a worse evil than the other two!”  Isn’t that what the two parties use now?  How about they get some message out there by somebody other than these “liberaltarians”.  I think they’d get a good percentage of votes if they put up something other than a pot smoking retard to look like a fucking dork on national tv.

Still, some words of whimsy in the article.  I liked this tidbit:

“Worse from their [Democrats] point of view, he [Trump] remains a toxic avatar of the old America they thought well and truly laid to rest once and for all. They can’t breathe easy while he remains in office lest he, however unlikely in view of his failures of performance, serve as a catalyst for revival of the historic American nation facing extinction at the hands of certified victim classes.”

”Certified victim classes”.   

 

 

 

 

[Edmo]

We don’t have the goods yet, but we expect to!

 

God damn that’s funny. You just can’t make this stuff up. 

[Mainecat]

So let’s allow the president break laws? Will it be just Trump OR wait when a dem is president they can do it too?

No one is above the law even the president. Impeach.

[Anler]

49 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Looks like Anler found a new website.  Good.  Maybe he’ll quit saying neocons and zionists so much.    PS:  cmon Democrats you can do this bring on impeachment!  Cant wait!

Same website so.... No.

[Anler]

32 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

Meh...another Ron Paul Institute surfer.  “Both parties suck!” is our message and god damn it....well, that’s pretty much it.  Contrarian cookies for everybody!!!  

You know, the Libertarian party really has had a chance to do something and whiffed it in astonishingly amazing fashion.  Now, it appears they are just haters of the two party system.  “Vote for us because we are  a worse evil than the other two!”  Isn’t that what the two parties use now?  How about they get some message out there by somebody other than these “liberaltarians”.  I think they’d get a good percentage of votes if they put up something other than a pot smoking retard to look like a fucking dork on national tv.

Still, some words of whimsy in the article.  I liked this tidbit:

“Worse from their [Democrats] point of view, he [Trump] remains a toxic avatar of the old America they thought well and truly laid to rest once and for all. They can’t breathe easy while he remains in office lest he, however unlikely in view of his failures of performance, serve as a catalyst for revival of the historic American nation facing extinction at the hands of certified victim classes.”

”Certified victim classes”.   

 

 

 

 

No the libertarian party never had a chance and never will because they are staunch conservatives (actual conservatives and not neocon faggots) and run on a platform of facts and reason. Nobody wants to hear that shit. Not that it will stop me from posting it tho... 

[spin_dry]

Haha. I love it. Awesome stuff. Washington deserves this.  

[Snake]

49 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

So let’s allow the president break laws? Will it be just Trump OR wait when a dem is president they can do it too?

No one is above the law even the president. Impeach.

And neither is he below it.

[Rod]

They won’t even try. Just talk about it. If they try it’ll come out what a farce the entire thing is 

[xtralettucetomatoe580]

1 hour ago, Anler said:

No the libertarian party never had a chance and never will because they are staunch conservatives (actual conservatives and not neocon faggots) and run on a platform of facts and reason. Nobody wants to hear that shit. Not that it will stop me from posting it tho... 

Bingo. 

[DriftBusta]

1 hour ago, Anler said:

Same website so.... No.

Um....that was my point.  2 links from the same website in 2 days.  Just please stop saying neocon so much, it just shows the dogma that youve been troughing on.     

[Zambroski]

1 hour ago, Anler said:

No the libertarian party never had a chance and never will because they are staunch conservatives (actual conservatives and not neocon faggots) and run on a platform of facts and reason. Nobody wants to hear that shit. Not that it will stop me from posting it tho... 

Bullshit.  This is what losers say.  “We aren’t going to be allowed to win so why even try!!”  Boo boo.  

Yes, the system is against you but, look at the opportunities the Libertarian party have now?  Look what they’ve been able to learn and exact from the Obama years to the 2016 election.  The time is now to make a push, to gain some market ground.  To stand on some self righteous soapbox and pretend like they are above all this is, well....for losers.  Americans both want and expect to be lied to by political parties and their leadership.  So, do it.  Build a base that way. They don’t really care if you are lying, they just want a message they can grab on to.  Jesus fucking Christ!  Look at Sanders!  What a bunch of bullshit that guy has been full of since birth, yet....look what he’s amassed as a following for spewing his garbage.  

My point: Now is the time for the Libertarian party to regroup and make a push.  Go all in!  Build the base!  Make the networks take notice and make them give the Libertarian party fair time.

Now, if all you want to do is throw Johnson up again, just go away.

[xtralettucetomatoe580]

Just now, Zambroski said:

Bullshit.  This is what losers say.  “We aren’t going to be allowed to win so why even try!!”  Boo boo.  

Yes, the system is against you but, look at the opportunities the Libertarian party have now?  Look what they’ve been able to learn and exact from the Obama years to the 2016 election.  The time is now to make a push, to gain some market ground.  To stand on some self righteous soapbox and pretend like they are above all this is, well....for losers.  Americans both want and expect to be lied to by political parties and their leadership.  So, do it.  Build a base that way. They don’t really care if you are lying, they just want a message they can grab on to.  Jesus fucking Christ!  Look at Sanders!  What a bunch of bullshit that guy has been full of since birth, yet....look what he’s amassed as a following for spewing his garbage.  

My point: Now is the time for the Libertarian party to regroup and make a push.  Go all in!  Build the base!  Make the networks take notice and make them give the Libertarian party fair time.

Now, if all you want to do is throw Johnson up again, just go away.

The problem you fail to address is simple. Majority of Americans are apathetic at best and plain stupid as worst. A party that wants to give the hard but correct answers is never going to succeed when you have two other parties offering the easy but incorrect answer.

Libertarian: Hey, we can’t keep spending money, giving you free shit, and violating your freedom in the name of security!

R’s and D’s: Hold my beer..

Libertarian ideals would never work. Same with Moto’s “ideal” communism. They require people to work against their short term self interest and be efficient. 

[Zambroski]

Just now, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

The problem you fail to address is simple. Majority of Americans are apathetic at best and plain stupid as worst. A party that wants to give the hard but correct answers is never going to succeed when you have two other parties offering the easy but incorrect answer.

Libertarian: Hey, we can’t keep spending money, giving you free shit, and violating your freedom in the name of security!

R’s and D’s: Hold my beer..

Libertarian ideals would never work. Same with Moto’s “ideal” communism. They require people to work against their short term self interest and be efficient. 

I understand JUST that.  Winners find a way!  

Now, go back, delete your “bingo” post and beat your fucking face.

If Dave we’re still here I’d ask him to go back and delete that and this crying post.

Now...BEAT YOUR FUCKING FACE!!!!

@ckf  can we get Dave back on a short term contract or something?  

 

[xtralettucetomatoe580]

1 minute ago, Zambroski said:

I understand JUST that.  Winners find a way!  

Now, go back, delete your “bingo” post and beat your fucking face.

If Dave we’re still here I’d ask him to go back and delete that and this crying post.

Now...BEAT YOUR FUCKING FACE!!!!

@ckf  can we get Dave back on a short term contract or something?  

 

Winners find a way? Do you know how stupid you sound? Winners can somehow un-ritard america? Um ok... 

[Jimmy Snacks]

3 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

Winners find a way? Do you know how stupid you sound? Winners can somehow un-ritard america? Um ok... 

No....he doesn't know.

[Zambroski]

Just now, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

Winners find a way? Do you know how stupid you sound? Winners can somehow un-ritard america? Um ok... 

Yes.  They can.  You don’t think most Americans want to look at another party?  You don’t think they’d love to fire back against a media that will willfully and purposely try to quell that party?  

You think I don’t want to see the Libertarian party do something strong?  Johnson was an epic fail but, the message, while convoluted a bit, is still worthy of an audience.  The problem the party is having is what I see here, nothing but whining contrarians with nothing substantial to offer other than laughter at the two party system.  I coined “Liberaltarian” for a reason.  That’s what they sound like.  Complainers and whiners that are just smart enough not to call themselves liberals.

The Libertarian party needs a strong leader to streamline the message and work the people.  Again...BERNIE FUCKING SANDERS DID IT.  OMG!

[Zambroski]

1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

No....he doesn't know.

This is what I mean.

”Hey, let’s all sit back together as a group and just point, complain and whine.  We can act like we have all the answers but keep it a secret! Look!  Is that spot opening up at the end of the bleachers?  Let’s go sit there!”

Get real.

[Ez ryder]

2 hours ago, Mainecat said:

So let’s allow the president break laws? Will it be just Trump OR wait when a dem is president they can do it too?

No one is above the law even the president. Impeach.

lmfao yeah you go with that CNN version 

[Ez ryder]

2 hours ago, Anler said:

No the libertarian party never had a chance and never will because they are staunch conservatives (actual conservatives and not neocon faggots) and run on a platform of facts and reason. Nobody wants to hear that shit. Not that it will stop me from posting it tho... 

if they ever had a chance  it was the last election and they brought nothing to the table  . time to hang it up and stop pretending they stand a chance 

[Zambroski]

2 minutes ago, Ez ryder said:

if they ever had a chance  it was the last election and they brought nothing to the table  . time to hang it up and stop pretending they stand a chance 

They fucking misfired like hell but, I think they have a good message.  I really do. They just over complicate things.  If the party has the attitudes like shown above, it’s clear they aren’t going anywhere. Just gonna sit back and slowly disintegrate to nothing while they complain from the visitor section.

[Anler]

1 hour ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

Winners find a way? Do you know how stupid you sound? Winners can somehow un-ritard america? Um ok... 

He's completely insane.

[Anler]

54 minutes ago, Ez ryder said:

if they ever had a chance  it was the last election and they brought nothing to the table  . time to hang it up and stop pretending they stand a chance 

Hey retard I just said they never had a chance. For fucks sake man.