motonoggin Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: So that makes you jealous? Lol, not jealous. 1 minute ago, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot said: Says the woodchuck that could Chuck wood. Best philosopher of his time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 8, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Not about me. If you take that $24 Billion and equally distribute it to the workforce in those companies I'd bet you would be shocked how little per employee that is. What your intentionally omitting is the growth of these companies. Edited January 8, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Many feel they need to be busy “white knighting” for someone else’s cause. Honkies that live in relatively affluent areas that are 99.5% white are big on this for some reason. If it were me, I’d just drink my guilt away. It’s easier...and more effective. Pot, apparently, doesn’t work as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, Highmark said: If you take that $24 Billion and equally distribute it to the workforce in those companies I'd bet you would be shocked how little per employee that is. What your intentionally omitting is the growth of these companies. Blah blah blah *Generic excuse/justification to keep wages low* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 8, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, motonoggin said: Blah blah blah *Generic excuse/justification to keep wages low* Not at all. I'm merely showing CEO pay increase is reflective of the growth and size of the corporations....not the ave worker. Keep on with your regurgitated talking points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 8, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) Its real easy to say CEO pay has increased by X% since 2000 without any other data like revenue growth of the company or market cap growth. Shiny little object to the ill informed. Reality is this. Is some executive compensation outrageous? Sure. But the fact of the matter is they have more to do with the company's revenue and health that the ave worker. Its followed growth of these companies. Edited January 8, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Its real easy to say CEO pay has increased by X% since 2000 without any other data like revenue growth of the company or market cap growth. Shiny little object to the ill informed. CEO pay increase with profitability = good Worker pay increase with profitability and productivity = bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 8, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, motonoggin said: CEO pay increase with profitability = good Worker pay increase with profitability and productivity = bad Again I've never said that. Keep trying to put words in my mouth. It's just making you look stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 And if Tommy two Cents had any sense about his economic outlook, he would have invested in the company that he spent his working career at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Again I've never said that. Keep trying to put words in my mouth. It's just making you look stupid. Not in so many words, no. But the fact that you seem to keep offering excuses and justification why wages haven't risen makes your position abundandtly clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I can see both sides of the coin. In the last 10 years our labor rate has not changed, but price of materials has more than quadrupled. Me: We have to buy these materials, we cant change the cost. Everyone else: rabble....rabble.... fucking suppliers. Me: Here is multiple things we can do to drive our material costs down. Everyone else: (quiet pause) rabble .....rabble.....fucking suppliers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, Highmark said: If you take that $24 Billion and equally distribute it to the workforce in those companies I'd bet you would be shocked how little per employee that is. What your intentionally omitting is the growth of these companies. Why would you make such a stupid statement? Are you actually that dumb or pretending to be to win an argument? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot said: And if Tommy two Cents had any sense about his economic outlook, he would have invested in the company that he spent his working career at. Who TF you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, revkevsdi said: Why would you make such a stupid statement? Are you actually that dumb or pretending to be to win an argument? Lmao, you must be new here. He will sacrifice everything upon the altar of appearing right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 8, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: Not in so many words, no. But the fact that you seem to keep offering excuses and justification why wages haven't risen makes your position abundandtly clear. Facts are not excuses or justification. Compensation has tracked much closer to productivity than you are willing to admit. Wages are up 3.2% this year. Even your wages to productivity chart show's an increase. Maybe not equal to productivity but increasing since 1947. There are many factors why productivity has out done wages, most you refuse to acknowledge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 8, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, revkevsdi said: Why would you make such a stupid statement? Are you actually that dumb or pretending to be to win an argument? The fortune 500 companies employ almost 30 million people. His chart is lacking any referable data like that or if it was other types of compensation like stock. Edited January 8, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Who TF you talking about? The employees... 1 minute ago, Highmark said: The fortune 500 companies employ almost 30 million people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: Facts are not excuses or justification. Compensation has tracked much closer to productivity than you are willing to admit. Wages are up 3.2% this year. Even your wages to productivity chart show's an increase. Maybe not equal to productivity but increasing since 1947. There are many factors why productivity has out done wages, most you refuse to acknowledge. And inflation was 2.44%... Wow! A whole .76% increase!!!! Maga!!!! Surely the poors can save 6-9 months of living expenses now!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 8, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: And inflation was 2.44%... Wow! A whole .76% increase!!!! Maga!!!! Surely the poors can save 6-9 months of living expenses now!!! What should it be? Care to provide a link to your chart? Edited January 8, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 And of course we can't go without reminding everyone that paying extortionary premiums to a predatory insurance company in an employee's name is exactly the same as giving them higher wages. Because we all know you can pay your mortgage, feed your family, and fill your gas tank with inevitably broken promises from an insurance company... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, Highmark said: The fortune 500 companies employ almost 30 million people. His chart is lacking any referable data like that or if it was other types of compensation like stock. Divide 24,000,000,000 by 30,000,000. It’s easy math. Then divide 24,000,000,000 by 177,000. Or to make it even easier 200,000. Please write that answers out and then repeat your statement about it being a small amount. Ill bet if you reversed that bonus structure the economy would be in better shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Noggin, the only way you’d get these clowns to admit stagnant wages are a big problem is if trump said so, and actually did something about it. They’d drop all these assanine comments quicker than dumb Dave on a chicken wing, and hail trump as the one fixing the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, revkevsdi said: Divide 24,000,000,000 by 30,000,000. It’s easy math. Then divide 24,000,000,000 by 177,000. Or to make it even easier 200,000. Please write that answers out and then repeat your statement about it being a small amount. Ill bet if you reversed that bonus structure the economy would be in better shape. Rich people need to get all the money so they can give it to poor people. Also: Poor people don't deserve more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 8, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, revkevsdi said: Divide 24,000,000,000 by 30,000,000. It’s easy math. Then divide 24,000,000,000 by 177,000. Or to make it even easier 200,000. Please write that answers out and then repeat your statement about it being a small amount. Ill bet if you reversed that bonus structure the economy would be in better shape. Like I said I'd like more details on the chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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