Platinum Contributing Member Blackstar Posted December 17, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 hours ago, f7ben said: Given all else being equal and taking into account no other variable, will increasing the length/depth of the lugs or cleats on a tracked vehicle such as a snowmobile cause a definable change in the vehicles final drive ratio. For the purpose of this question final drive ratio is to be defined as the distance the vehicle moves with one full rotation of the drive system input and not accounting for any variation in the drivetrain such as CVT etc. I am open to suggestions but I think the above about covers it. Definable, no. It would be a variable equation based on deflection and penetration reflecting traction surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted December 17, 2018 Gold Member Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 hours ago, motonoggin said: Lmao. This reminds me of the definition of racism discussion... In that case you should be the only one allowed to define the parameters! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 How is this still being argued over? Take a 16in rim donut spare tire from the truck of a Kia , a 16in rim with 40in swampers from a mud truck. The cog (rim) is same diameter, the sidewall height (lugs on track) is significantly larger. Given one revolution of the cog, the larger tire on the same size rim is going to travel a farther distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot said: How is this still being argued over? Take a 16in rim donut spare tire from the truck of a Kia , a 16in rim with 40in swampers from a mud truck. The cog (rim) is same diameter, the sidewall height (lugs on track) is significantly larger. Given one revolution of the cog, the larger tire on the same size rim is going to travel a farther distance. Nope. Track length has zero effect on drive ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis and Butt-Head Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: Nope. Track length has zero effect on drive ratio. X2 , he’s fucking with us, he would be lucky if he could afford Busch lite 30 pack and couple of $10 scratch offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Nope. Track length has zero effect on drive ratio. Now it's track length, not lug height? And you're claiming track length doesn't affect distance traveled per revolution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Beavis and Butt-Head said: X2 , he’s fucking with us, he would be lucky if he could afford Busch lite 30 pack and couple of $10 scratch offs. What's wrong with Busch light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot said: Now it's track length, not lug height? And you're claiming track length doesn't affect distance traveled per revolution? Distance traveled per driver shaft revolution isn't how final drive is calculated. It's basically the ratio of jackshaft revolution to driver shaft revolution. The minute way in which the track impacts that assembly is how lug height can change FDR. It's very minute and momentary. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis and Butt-Head Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot said: What's wrong with Busch light? It’s crap beer , if I am drinking light beer from 8 am until 8 at night it’s gonna be either coors light or Sam Adams light. Edited December 17, 2018 by Beavis and Butt-Head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Distance traveled per driver shaft revolution isn't how final drive is calculated. It's basically the ratio of jackshaft revolution to driver shaft revolution. The minute way in which the track impacts that assembly is how lug height can change FDR. It's very minute and momentary. Neal Although minute, it's still measurable. They are proposing to consult an engineer, said engineer will unequivocally say that there is a difference. Granted we're talking small potatoes, but who was it said a 300in lug wouldn't make a difference either? That's just silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Distance traveled per driver shaft revolution isn't how final drive is calculated. It's basically the ratio of jackshaft revolution to driver shaft revolution. The minute way in which the track impacts that assembly is how lug height can change FDR. It's very minute and momentary. Neal You spelled 'non-existent' wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot said: Although minute, it's still measurable. They are proposing to consult an engineer, said engineer will unequivocally say that there is a difference. Granted we're talking small potatoes, but who was it said a 300in lug wouldn't make a difference either? That's just silly. It doesn't matter. Tracks travel in a linear fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, motonoggin said: You spelled 'non-existent' wrong Not at all, see that would be incorrect wording. Thus why I didn't use it. Neal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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awful knawful Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 This thread has shown who the retards on FS.COM really are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 28 minutes ago, awful knawful said: This thread has shown who the retards on FS.COM really are! Yup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 jesus christ neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: Yup HE MEANS YOU!!!!!!!11@# Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: HE MEANS YOU!!!!!!!11@# Neal Let's see your equation again Neal....I need a laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, f7ben said: Let's see your equation again Neal....I need a laugh LOOK IN THE MIRROR BASTID! Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 Hey Neal.....does a temp Rise of 1f change the final drive ratio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, f7ben said: Hey Neal.....does a temp Rise of 1f change the final drive ratio? What about gravitational waves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: What about gravitational waves? Absolutely......direction and intensity of the sun??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 The hole in the zone layer was certainly changing final drive ratios for vehicles driving around under it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: Hey Neal.....does a temp Rise of 1f change the final drive ratio? Totally! Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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