Given all else being equal and taking into account no other variable, will increasing the length/depth of the lugs or cleats on a tracked vehicle such as a snowmobile cause a definable change in the vehicles final drive ratio. For the purpose of this question final drive ratio is to be defined as the distance the vehicle moves with one full rotation of the drive system input and not accounting for any variation in the drivetrain such as CVT etc. 

 

I am open to suggestions but I think the above about covers it.

Neal...this bet is between me and znutty. Its laid out as was discussed between he and i.

1 minute ago, f7ben said:

Neal...this bet is between me and znutty. Its laid out as was discussed between he and i.

I know, I'm just here to pester ya man!  

You already admitted I was correct in person, I'm satisfied with that. 

Neal

6 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

I know, I'm just here to pester ya man!  

You already admitted I was correct in person, I'm satisfied with that. 

Neal

I admitted that on some quantum level variations in the field and drivetrain would affect the outcome and it would be for all intents and purposes immeasurable. It's a thought exercise and nothing more. 

 

27 minutes ago, f7ben said:

I admitted that on some quantum level variations in the field and drivetrain would affect the outcome and it would be for all intents and purposes immeasurable. It's a thought exercise and nothing more. 

 

Sure, it's all a thought exercise. 

Neal

4 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

HE MEANS YOU!!!!!!!11@#

Neal

Nope!

5 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

Sure, it's all a thought exercise. 

Neal

My bet with znutty is not...it is practical

You guys are retarded

2 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

I already have, you have chosen to ignore, and disregard it.  That's your choice.  I cannot force you to accept proof.

Neal

Absolutely wrong.  Not once did you quantify your position.  You did not prove that a track with 3" lugs would move a vehicle more or less than a track with 1" lugs with one or more rotation of the track.  You provided a theory but never quantified your theory with an answer.  

If you think I'm wrong about that then provide the answer again.  How much more or less will a 3" lug move a vehicle over a 1" lug with 1 or 100 or 1000 rotations of the track.  

5 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said:

Absolutely wrong.  Not once did you quantify your position.  You did not prove that a track with 3" lugs would move a vehicle more or less than a track with 1" lugs with one or more rotation of the track.  You provided a theory but never quantified your theory with an answer.  

If you think I'm wrong about that then provide the answer again.  How much more or less will a 3" lug move a vehicle over a 1" lug with 1 or 100 or 1000 rotations of the track.  

I hope you arent expecting an answer

5 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said:

Absolutely wrong.  Not once did you quantify your position.  You did not prove that a track with 3" lugs would move a vehicle more or less than a track with 1" lugs with one or more rotation of the track.  You provided a theory but never quantified your theory with an answer.  

If you think I'm wrong about that then provide the answer again.  How much more or less will a 3" lug move a vehicle over a 1" lug with 1 or 100 or 1000 rotations of the track.  

is the sled on ice or 10 inches of snow.  how stiff are the lugs if on ice.    

Where did znutty go????

8 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Where did znutty go????

His shift started behind Sandy's.

Just now, awful knawful said:

His shift started behind Sandy's.

Hopefully he works hard....I want my money

2 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

is the sled on ice or 10 inches of snow.  how stiff are the lugs if on ice.    

Read the fukken HYPOTHESIS, you fukken dummy!!! 

It's not on snow or ice, it's on a HYPOTHETICAL, FLAT HARD PLANE.

In other words it's a snowmobile hypothetically moving on a smooth, flat table or floor, you fucktahd. 

There is NO SNOW, NO FUKKEN ICE, NO LUG FLICK, NO LUG DEFLECTION, NO DRIVE-TRAIN  SLOP, NO NOTHING!!!!

GODDAMN YOU FUCKTARDS, THE ONLY VARIABLE IS LUG HEIGHT!! 

LUG HEIGHT IS THE ONLY FUKKEN VARIABLE IN THIS EQUATION!!!!!!! 

2 hours ago, steve from amherst said:

Including snow structure?

Snow structure is irrelevant because it's linear movement,  not rotational.

1 minute ago, Polaris 550 said:

Read the fukken HYPOTHESIS, you fukken dummy!!! 

It's not on snow or ice, it's on a HYPOTHETICAL, FLAT HARD PLANE.

In other words it's a snowmobile hypothetically moving on a smooth, flat table or floor, you fucktahd. 

There is NO SNOW, NO FUKKEN ICE, NO LUG FLICK, NO LUG DEFLECTION, NO DRIVE-TRAIN  SLOP, NO NOTHING!!!!

GODDAMN YOU FUCKTARDS, THE ONLY VARIABLE IS LUG HEIGHT!! 

LUG HEIGHT IS THE ONLY FUKKEN VARIABLE IN THIS EQUATION!!!!!!! 

Correct

1 minute ago, motonoggin said:

Snow structure is irrelevant because it's linear movement,  not rotational.

unless that snow structure is solid ice. But snotty is using asphalt.

Just now, steve from amherst said:

unless that snow structure is solid ice. But snotty is using asphalt.

Nope, it has no effect because it's linear motion, not rotational. 

1 minute ago, motonoggin said:

Nope, it has no effect because it's linear motion, not rotational. 

So by that theory if one installs larger ( taller ) tires on a truck you believe the speedo will still be correct?

Just now, steve from amherst said:

So by that theory if one installs larger ( taller ) tires on a truck you believe the speedo will still be correct?

No, it won't be correct, but that's because it's rotational motion, not linear.

 

Changing tire size on a truck is like changing the driver size on a sled, not changing lug height.

1 minute ago, motonoggin said:

Changing tire size on a truck is like changing the driver size on a sled, not changing lug height.

how so

Just now, steve from amherst said:

how so

Fucking moron....I knew you were dumb as a stump

Just now, steve from amherst said:

how so

Because the driver size does have an effect on drive ratio. 

3 minutes ago, motonoggin said:

Because the driver size does have an effect on drive ratio. 

That's obvious. but dosnt explain your theory.