Remember....

[Snake]

This is the story of John Brennan's CIA spying on Congress and getting away with it.  

Last March, Senator Dianne Feinstein accused the CIA of spying on the Senate intelligence committee as it labored to finalize its report on the torture of prisoners. “I have grave concerns that the CIA’s search may well have violated the separation of powers principles embodied in the United States Constitution,” she said. “I have asked for an apology and a recognition that this CIA search of computers used by its oversight committee was inappropriate. I have received neither.”

 

 

CIA Director John Brennan denied the charge. “Nothing could be further from the truth,” he said. “We wouldn’t do that. That’s just beyond the scope of reason in terms of what we’d do.” It would be months before his denial was publicly proved false. "An internal investigation by the C.I.A. has found that its officers penetrated a computer network used by the Senate Intelligence Committee in preparing its damning report on the C.I.A.’s detention and interrogation program," The New York Times reported. "The report by the agency’s inspector general also found that C.I.A. officers read the emails of the Senate investigators and sent a criminal referral to the Justice Department based on false information."

The Senate intelligence committee expressed appropriate outraged at these anti-democratic machinations:

A statement issued Thursday morning by a C.I.A. spokesman said that John O. Brennan, the agency’s director, had apologized to Ms. Feinstein and the committee’s ranking Republican, Senator Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, and would set up an internal accountability board to review the issue. The statement said that the board, which will be led by a former Democratic senator, Evan Bayh of Indiana, could recommend “potential disciplinary measures” and “steps to address systemic issues.” But anger among lawmakers grew throughout the day. Leaving a nearly three-hour briefing about the report in a Senate conference room, members of both parties called for the C.I.A. officers to be held accountable, and some said they had lost confidence in Mr. Brennan’s leadership. “This is a serious situation and there are serious violations,” said Mr. Chambliss, generally a staunch ally of the intelligence community. He called for the C.I.A. employees to be “dealt with very harshly.”

Late last week, that internal "accountability board" announced the results of its review. If you've followed the impunity with which the CIA has broken U.S. laws throughout its history, you'll be unsurprised to learn that no one is going to be "dealt with very harshly" after all. "A panel investigating the Central Intelligence Agency’s search of a computer network used by staff members of the Senate Intelligence Committee who were looking into the C.I.A.’s use of torture will recommend against punishing anyone involved in the episode," The New York Times reports. "The panel will make that recommendation after the five C.I.A. officials who were singled out by the agency’s inspector general this year for improperly ordering and carrying out the computer searches staunchly defended their actions, saying that they were lawful and in some cases done at the behest of John O. Brennan."

 

Done at the behest of Brennan, who once feigned ignorance about the actions in question, going so far as to declare them beyond the scope of reason! "While effectively rejecting the most significant conclusions of the inspector general’s report," the story continues, "the panel, appointed by Mr. Brennan and composed of three C.I.A. officers and two members from outside the agency, is still expected to criticize agency missteps that contributed to the fight with Congress." Who'd have guessed that a panel appointed by Brennan to look into malfeasance presided over and in some cases ordered by Brennan would decide that neither Brennan nor any of the people Brennan leads should be held accountable?

Brennan and the CIA have behaved indefensibly. But substantial blame belongs to the overseers who've permitted them to do so with impunity, including figures in the Obama administration right up to the president and Senate intelligence committee members who, for all their bluster, have yet to react to CIA misbehavior in a way that actually disincentivizes similar malfeasance in the future. President Obama should fire John Brennan, as has previously been suggested by Senator Mark Udall, Trevor Timm, Dan Froomkin, and Andrew Sullivan. And the Senate intelligence committee should act toward the CIA like their predecessors on the Church Committee. Instead, the CIA is asked to investigate its own malfeasance and issue reports suggesting what, if anything, should be done.

 

 

 

The Times reports:

Mr. Brennan has enraged senators by refusing to answer questions posed by the Intelligence Committee about who at the C.I.A. authorized the computer intrusion. Doing so, he said, could compromise the accountability board’s investigation.

“What did he know? When did he know it? What did he order?” said Senator Carl Levin, the Michigan Democrat who is a member of the Intelligence Committee, said in an interview last week. “They haven’t answered those basic questions.”

Senator Levin, you're a member of a coequal branch. You've flagged outrageous behavior among those you're charged with overseeing. What are you going to do about it?

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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/12/a-brief-history-of-the-cias-unpunished-spying-on-the-senate/384003/

[ViperGTS/Z1]

Crooked to the core.

At least we have a decent ,honorable and honest man at the helm now.....to start weeding out this infestation 

[Anler]

So looks like me, ben and Moto have been right about everything...

[Dave]

18 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said:

So looks like me, ben and Moto have been right about everything...

Not everything.

[DriftBusta]

1 hour ago, Nazipigdog said:

So looks like me, ben and Moto have been right about everything...

you forgot Snake, myself, and a half dozen others as well.    You also forgot to call Slinger and Snowrider dipshits.

[Anler]

39 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

you forgot Snake, myself, and a half dozen others as well.    You also forgot to call Slinger and Snowrider dipshits.

I dont recall you and snake calling the intelligence community traitors before Trump was president. Also we have always been staunch cop haters. You not so much. 

And do I really need to state the obvious? 

Edited August 16, 2018 by Nazipigdog

[Anler]

1 hour ago, DAVE said:

Not everything.

Pretty much... 

[Jimmy Snacks]

1 hour ago, DriftBusta said:

you forgot Snake, myself, and a half dozen others as well.    You also forgot to call Slinger and Snowrider dipshits.

 

54 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said:

I dont recall you and snake calling the intelligence community traitors before Trump was president. Also we have always been staunch cop haters. You not so much. 

And do I really need to state the obvious? 

You don’t recall because they didn’t.

[frenchy]

17 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

 

You don’t recall because they didn’t.

this

in fact, it was always "what are you afraid of if you have nothing to hide?" as far back as wiretapping and domestic surveillance of cell phone and email discussions on here went.

 priceless. 

Edited August 16, 2018 by frenchy

[DriftBusta]

1 hour ago, Nazipigdog said:

I dont recall you and snake calling the intelligence community traitors before Trump was president. Also we have always been staunch cop haters. You not so much. 

And do I really need to state the obvious? 

Was I worried about the NSA, or making legal arguments over their jurisdiction during the Obama years?  no.  When I found out they were surveilling members of Congress, and later Trump, then lying about all of it,  I absolutely wanted him gone and their agency douched.  And lets be clear, I don't broad stroke the entire intelligence community, i would imagine many of them didn't support what Brennan, Comey, Clapper, etc. did.  I was laughed at when i told of a buddys kid who now works for the FBI in Washington about how the rank and file felt about Comey, before he was fired.  I talked to her personally about it.  They knew he was corrupt, knew he was lying and put a stain on the agency.  She and I were right about that one too.  And congratulations to you, Ben and that fucking dipshit Moto for being staunch cop haters.  bravo.....bravo.  You clearly got me there.

17 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

 

You don’t recall because they didn’t.

oh fuck off Ralphie Reacharound.  Precious "indeed"

[Jimmy Snacks]

36 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Was I worried about the NSA, or making legal arguments over their jurisdiction during the Obama years?  no.  When I found out they were surveilling members of Congress, and later Trump, then lying about all of it,  I absolutely wanted him gone and their agency douched.  And lets be clear, I don't broad stroke the entire intelligence community, i would imagine many of them didn't support what Brennan, Comey, Clapper, etc. did.  I was laughed at when i told of a buddys kid who now works for the FBI in Washington about how the rank and file felt about Comey, before he was fired.  I talked to her personally about it.  They knew he was corrupt, knew he was lying and put a stain on the agency.  She and I were right about that one too.  And congratulations to you, Ben and that fucking dipshit Moto for being staunch cop haters.  bravo.....bravo.  You clearly got me there.

oh fuck off Ralphie Reacharound.  Precious "indeed"

Call it whatever you want Pops but you seem to have a habit of “misremembering” things.

[oleroule]

the commie should be hung for sedition.

[DriftBusta]

 

27 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

Call it whatever you want Pops but you seem to have a habit of “misremembering” things.

Go play in traffic, maybe chug down some semi gloss latex.  You have a habit of just being a dick for no other reason than to just be a dick.  That flaw needs a hellava lot more work than any claims of me "misremembering" anything.

[Jimmy Snacks]

Just now, DriftBusta said:

 

Go play in traffic, maybe chug down some semi gloss latex.  You have a habit of just being a dick for no other reason than to just be a dick.  That flaw needs a hellava lot more work than any claims of me "misremembering" anything.

Exxxx Latex is gross and they aren’t claims but rather truth!!!!!!!!

[Jimmy Snacks]

1 hour ago, frenchy said:

this

in fact, it was always "what are you afraid of if you have nothing to hide?" as far back as wiretapping and domestic surveillance of cell phone and email discussions on here went.

 priceless. 

Does Frenchy have to drink paint too?

[DriftBusta]

Just now, Jimmy Snacks said:

Does Frenchy have to drink paint too?

He doesn't follow me around like you do, looking for someone to grab a reach around.  And he's not incorrect, but now we have to go back to the day the guy took the job?  Whatever, i explained myself. 

[Jimmy Snacks]

6 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

He doesn't follow me around like you do, looking for someone to grab a reach around.  And he's not incorrect, but now we have to go back to the day the guy took the job?  Whatever, i explained myself. 

You and Moe do that on  a daily basis and you are admitting that Analer was correct in the first place so this all could have been avoided....Classic.

[Anler]

1 hour ago, DriftBusta said:

Was I worried about the NSA, or making legal arguments over their jurisdiction during the Obama years?  no.  When I found out they were surveilling members of Congress, and later Trump, then lying about all of it,  I absolutely wanted him gone and their agency douched.  And lets be clear, I don't broad stroke the entire intelligence community, i would imagine many of them didn't support what Brennan, Comey, Clapper, etc. did.  I was laughed at when i told of a buddys kid who now works for the FBI in Washington about how the rank and file felt about Comey, before he was fired.  I talked to her personally about it.  They knew he was corrupt, knew he was lying and put a stain on the agency.  She and I were right about that one too.  And congratulations to you, Ben and that fucking dipshit Moto for being staunch cop haters.  bravo.....bravo.  You clearly got me there.

oh fuck off Ralphie Reacharound.  Precious "indeed"

Where were you and snake when Snowden revealed to everyone that the govt was illegally spying on us? Snakey said he needed a "bullet". But when they spied on Trump "Oh noes! this shit is corrupt!" Sorry but youre full of shit.  

[f7ben]

Just now, Nazipigdog said:

Where were you and snake when Snowden revealed to everyone that the govt was illegally spying on us? Snakey said he needed a "bullet". But when they spied on Trump "Oh noes! this shit is corrupt!" Sorry but youre full of shit.  

Snake admitted his mistake and woolie seems to be doing the same here. The more people that come around to distrusting authority the better. The time for ostracizing has passed.....just welcome people to the right side of history.

I myself take a very measured and logical approach to dealing with most people on these matters!!!!111+

[NaturallyAspirated]

Good, we should be spying on all the fucks that are elected. 

Neal

[f7ben]

2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

Good, we should be spying on all the fucks that are elected. 

Neal

Who's we? The Intel community is corrupt to the core....they ain't on your side dummy

Edited August 16, 2018 by f7ben

[Zambroski]

Just now, NaturallyAspirated said:

Good, we should be spying on all the fucks that are elected. 

Neal

You're gonna need a bigger boat.

 

[NaturallyAspirated]

Just now, f7ben said:

Who's we? The Intel community is corrupt to the core....they ain't in your side dummy

So are the elected officials.  Expose all.

Neal

[Anler]

1 minute ago, f7ben said:

Snake admitted his mistake and woolie seems to be doing the same here. The more people that come around to distrusting authority the better. The time for ostracizing has passed.....just welcome people to the right side of history.

I myself take a very measured and logical approach to dealing with most people on these matters!!!!111+

I must have missed this awakening and confused it with the usual hackery. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.  

[NaturallyAspirated]

Just now, Zambroski said:

You're gonna need a bigger boat.

 

Apparently not, it's already happening!  Winning!

Neal