Anler Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Yep Pence and bolton fucked this up. < Older South Korean President Moons Bolton written by ray mcgovern saturday may 26, 2018 Thanks no doubt to his bellicose national security adviser John Bolton, President Donald Trump has now lost control of the movement toward peace between the two Koreas. Trump has put himself in a corner; he must now either reject — or, better, fire — Bolton, or face the prospect of wide war in the Far East, including the Chinese, with whom a mutual defense treaty with North Korea is still on the books. The visuals of the surprise meeting late yesterday (local time) between the top leaders of South Korea and North Korea pretty much tell the story. South Korea’s President Moon Jae-in drove into the North Korean side of the demilitarized zone (DMZ), and Seoul quickly released a one-minute video of what, by all appearances, was an extremely warm encounter with Kim Jung-un. It amounted to a smiling, thumbing of two noses at Bolton and the rest of the “crazies” who follow his advice, such as Vice President Mike Pence who echoed Bolton’s insane evocation of the “Libya model” for North Korea, which caused Pyongyang to go ballistic. Their angry response was the reason Trump cited for cancelling the June 12 summit with Kim. But Trump almost immediately afterward began to waffle. At their meeting on Friday the two Korean leaders made it clear their main purpose was to make “the successful holding of the North Korea-U.S. Summit” happen. Moon is expected to announce the outcome of his talks with Kim Sunday morning (Korean time).Why is Trump Waffling? One cannot rule out the possibility that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has some cojones beneath his girth. He has a personal, as well as a diplomatic stake in whether or not Bolton succeeds in wrecking the summit. (Trump, after all, deputized Pompeo, while he was still CIA director, to set it up.) It’s also possible some non-crazy advisers are warning Trump about Bolton’s next “March of Folly.” Other advisers may be appealing to Trump’s legendary vanity by dangling the prospect that he may blow his only shot at a Nobel Peace Prize. The two Korean leaders have made abundantly clear their determination to continue on the path of reconciliation despite the artificial divide created by the U.S. 70 years ago. Now, a lot depends on the unpredictable Trump. If enough people talk sense to him and help him see the dangerous consequences of letting himself be led by Bolton, peace on the Korean peninsula may be within reach. It is no longer a fantasy to suggest that the DMZ could evaporate just as unexpectedly and quickly as that other artifact of the Cold War did — the Berlin Wall almost four decades ago.Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, a publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in inner-city Washington. In 1963, when he began his 27-year career as a CIA analyst, he was responsible for evaluating Soviet policy toward China and the Far East. Later, he prepared the President’s Daily Brief for Nixon, Ford, and Reagan, delivering it one-on-one to Reagans five most senior national security advisers from 1981 to 1985. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Anler Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share Posted May 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Momorider said: Kissing ass after the fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: Kissing ass after the fact. and from all the Nazi POS posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Pence is the worst...maybe on Sessions is a worse piece of fuck... trump is a fucking retard who couldn't not step in shit if he tried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Trump is about to turn chicken shit into chicken salad. More winning is right around the corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 This was between North and South Korea the whole time and Trump was just trying to steal the credit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 NK does not want to deal with the incompetent Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 24 minutes ago, Wildboer said: This was between North and South Korea the whole time and Trump was just trying to steal the credit... Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 25 minutes ago, Mainecat said: NK does not want to deal with the incompetent Trump. Incompetent and dishonest. Who would trust him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 minute ago, revkevsdi said: Incompetent and dishonest. Who would trust him? Hillary wasnt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, DAVE said: Hillary wasnt? http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/lists/people/comparing-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-truth-o-met/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, revkevsdi said: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/lists/people/comparing-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-truth-o-met/ Thx for proving my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Momorider said: What summit? Trump cancelled it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Nazipigdog said: Yup. Yah it only took 70 years cuz they were all buzy cooking rice cakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Mainecat said: NK does not want to deal with the incompetent Trump. yeah because with out the us stoping our embargo they will be just fine lmfao .hate to break it to you sk will not do shit yo bring nk out of the dark. nk needs the us 100000x more that we need them .nk is nothing but a buzzing nat flying around the head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, revkevsdi said: Incompetent and dishonest. Who would trust him? what did your black God get done of the nk issue? talk about incompetent your queen hillery could not even beat Trump with more money and 98% of the media in her pocket .that is overwhelming incompetence .and dishonest fuck me pretty sure her pic is in Webster's under that word Edited May 28, 2018 by Ez ryder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 11 hours ago, AKIQPilot said: Trump is about to turn chicken shit into chicken salad. More winning is right around the corner. It's happening with or without him. He tried the tough guy, "now is not the time" routine, and when it was realized that he wasn't necessary he is scrambling to get back in. It would be awesome if SK gave him a big FU. Neal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, NaturallyAspirated said: It's happening with or without him. He tried the tough guy, "now is not the time" routine, and when it was realized that he wasn't necessary he is scrambling to get back in. It would be awesome if SK gave him a big FU. Neal Yeah he even wrote a letter for all to read. Fire pence and bolton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Trump has NOTHING at all to do with this. NOTHING! ZERO! ZILTCH!!! Hold on....still drinking my coffee though....brain is still a bit hazy. It's like I'm half retarded right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 28, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, NaturallyAspirated said: It's happening with or without him. He tried the tough guy, "now is not the time" routine, and when it was realized that he wasn't necessary he is scrambling to get back in. It would be awesome if SK gave him a big FU. Neal 2 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: Yeah he even wrote a letter for all to read. Fire pence and bolton. I voted for the jagoff but I can see he fucked this up....I'll never understand the hardcore partisan hack mind that doesn't allow for criticism when it's warranted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 28, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 28, 2018 Just now, Zambroski said: Trump has NOTHING at all to do with this. NOTHING! ZERO! ZILTCH!!! Hold on....still drinking my coffee though....brain is still a big hazy. You could drink 20 cups...won't help the haze in your head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: You could drink 20 cups...won't help the haze in your head. Beat me to it!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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