Iran says 400 million was a ransom payment

[jtssrx]

Sen. Kirk: $400 Million to Iran ‘Ransom to Kidnappers’

The Obama administration continues to deny that a $400 million cash payment to the Iranian regime in January was a ransom for American captives released that month — even though the Iranian regime has described it as such.

On Tuesday, the Wall Street Journal reportedthat the cash was delivered in secret, like a super villain scene in a James Bond movie: “Wooden pallets stacked with euros, Swiss francs and other currencies were flown into Iran on an unmarked cargo plane.”

 

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It was only the first installment of $1.7 billion that was purportedly owed to Iran to settle claims predating the fall of the Shah in 1979.

Since the days of President Thomas Jefferson, when American sailors were kidnapped by marauding Muslim pirates, the U.S. has resisted paying ransom to free its citizens, lest that create an incentive to kidnap more of them. That is exactly what Iran has done, seizing several more Americans since the beginning of the year, including a California man last month.

In January, White House spokesman Josh Earnest called the Iran deal, including the $1.7 billion payment, as “Exhibit A in the administration pursuing tough, principled diplomacy in a way that actually ends up making the American people safer and advancing the interests of the United States more effectively than military action.”

Yet Obama was ashamed enough to carry out the swap in secret, using foreign currency because of U.S. sanctions that prevent dealing with the regime in U.S. dollars.

At the time, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) warned that the deal “put a price on the head of every American abroad.” Other Republican presidential candidates made similar criticisms.

Following the news of how the cash was delivered, members of Congress, who have sought details about the payment for months, reacted angrily.

Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL) said: “We were right in January 2016 to describe the Administraion’s $1.7 billion transfer to Iran as a ransom payment. Paying ransom to kidnappers puts Americans even more at risk. While Americans were relieved by Iran’s overdue release of illegally imprisoned American hostages, the White House’s policy of appeasement has led Iran to illegally seize more American hostages, including Siamak Namazi, his father Baquer Namazi, and Reza Shahini.”

The Obama administration insists Iran will use the money for infrastructure, not to fund its worldwide terror operations.

[Capt.Storm]

8 minutes ago, jtssrx said:

The Obama administration insists Iran will use the money for infrastructure, not to fund its worldwide terror operations.

[f7ben]

its all bluster on Irans part as they try and look to be in control for their populace 

 

 The reality is we fucked up their country and stole 400 million from them ....I don't give a fuck how we pay them back as long as we do and we continue to normalize relations with them

[Capt.Storm]

5 minutes ago, f7ben said:

its all bluster on Irans part as they try and look to be in control for their populace 

 

 The reality is we fucked up their country and stole 400 million from them ....I don't give a fuck how we pay them back as long as we do and we continue to normalize relations with them

And your ok with them funding terrorism? 

[Capt.Storm]

not to forget their nuke program of course.

[jtssrx]

24 minutes ago, f7ben said:

its all bluster on Irans part as they try and look to be in control for their populace 

 

 The reality is we fucked up their country and stole 400 million from them ....I don't give a fuck how we pay them back as long as we do and we continue to normalize relations with them

This money isn't part of the money from the sanctions. This was a payoff for hostages. The justice department said no to this and were over ruled. This money went there on an unmarked plane. It's shady!! 

[Capt.Storm]

3 minutes ago, jtssrx said:

It's shady!! 

For sure..hell on the way they stopped and had the currency switched over to some other chit even.

Edited August 5, 2016 by Capt.Storm

[Momorider]

3 minutes ago, jtssrx said:

This money isn't part of the money from the sanctions. This was a payoff for hostages. The justice department said no to this and were over ruled. This money went there on an unmarked plane. It's shady!! 

Bipolarhooknose isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer  

[1jkw]

1 minute ago, jtssrx said:

This money isn't part of the money from the sanctions. This was a payoff for hostages. The justice department said no to this and were over ruled. This money went there on an unmarked plane. It's shady!! 

The money was from an arms deal that was in the works before the Shaw was overthrown, and Iran had a case against the US in the world tribunal and it would have cost the US more than what was agreed upon.

I just watched an interview on PBS News Hour they had the WJS reporter on who wrote the article, 1 the 400 million was Iran's 2 the justice department was only concerned with the optics,  3 the only thing in dispute is what Iran says and what the US says about  the purpose of returning their money.

[Rod]

Yes it was a hostage situation, and yes they asked for a ransom. What was owing to them. They wanted back what was theirs.

[Capt.Storm]

But boy when Reagan sold them a few guns all hell broke lose...and he was getting hostages released also.

 

The Iran-Contra Affair was a clandestine action not approved of by the United States Congress. It began in 1985, when President Ronald Reagan's administration supplied weapons to Iran¹ — a sworn enemy — in hopes of securing the release of American hostages held in Lebanon by Hezbollah terrorists loyal to the Ayatollah Khomeini, Iran's leader. This article is rooted in the Iran Hostage Crisis.

The U.S. took millions of dollars from the weapons sale and routed them and guns to the right-wing "Contra"² guerrillas in Nicaragua. The Contras were the armed opponents of Nicaragua's Sandinista Junta of National Reconstruction, following the July 1979 overthrow of strongman Anastasio Somoza Debayle and the ending of the Somoza family's 43-year reign.

Illegal trading

The transactions that took place in the Iran-Contra scandal were contrary to the legislation of the Democratic-dominated Congress and contrary to official Reagan administration policy.

Part of the deal was that, in July 1985, the United States would send 508 American-made TOW anti-tank missiles from Israel to Iran for the safe exchange of a hostage, the Reverend Benjamin Weir.

After that successful transfer, the Israelis offered to ship 500 HAWK surface-to-air missiles to Iran in November 1985, in exchange for the release of all remaining American hostages being held in Lebanon. Eventually the arms were sold with proceeds going to the contras, and the hostages were released.

In February 1986, 1,000 TOW missiles were shipped to Iran. From May to November, there were more shipments of various weapons and parts.

Eventually Hezbollah elected to kidnap more hostages following their release of the previous ones, which rendered meaningless any further dealings with Iran.

The affair is exposed

It was not until 1986 that word had gotten out about the secret transactions. The Lebanese magazine Ash-Shiraa published a series of articles in November 1986, that exposed the weapons-for-hostages deal. On November 18th, 1987, the Congress issued a report on the affair that stated the president bore "ultimate responsibility."

Upon further investigation, Attorney General Edwin Meese verified the report and an independent special prosecutor, Lawrence E. Walsh, was assigned to investigate the deals involving the arms sale and the Contra support.

President Reagan appointed a review board, headed by former Republican Senator John Tower. The Tower Commission's report concluded that the president had been inefficient in controlling the National Security Council, the agency that had actually made the illegal deals, and had known about the arms sale to the Iranians. However, it could not be discovered in hearings if the president had known about the Contra support.

Court hearings and convictions

 

[Jimmy Snacks]

29 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

The money was from an arms deal that was in the works before the Shaw was overthrown, and Iran had a case against the US in the world tribunal and it would have cost the US more than what was agreed upon.

I just watched an interview on PBS News Hour they had the WJS reporter on who wrote the article, 1 the 400 million was Iran's 2 the justice department was only concerned with the optics,  3 the only thing in dispute is what Iran says and what the US says about  the purpose of returning their money.

The Shah of Iran....not sure who this Shaw guy is.

[Snake]

Musta been a long night, waiting for that ransom plane to land.

[jtssrx]

1 hour ago, 1jkw said:

The money was from an arms deal that was in the works before the Shaw was overthrown, and Iran had a case against the US in the world tribunal and it would have cost the US more than what was agreed upon.

I just watched an interview on PBS News Hour they had the WJS reporter on who wrote the article, 1 the 400 million was Iran's 2 the justice department was only concerned with the optics,  3 the only thing in dispute is what Iran says and what the US says about  the purpose of returning their money.

I don't know what the truth is. I can tell you it looks shady. 

[Momorider]

30 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said:

The Shah of Iran....not sure who this Shaw guy is.

[racer254]

2 hours ago, 1jkw said:

The money was from an arms deal that was in the works before the Shaw was overthrown, and Iran had a case against the US in the world tribunal and it would have cost the US more than what was agreed upon.

I just watched an interview on PBS News Hour they had the WJS reporter on who wrote the article, 1 the 400 million was Iran's 2 the justice department was only concerned with the optics,  3 the only thing in dispute is what Iran says and what the US says about  the purpose of returning their money.

Jesus fucking christ. Are you a person with Iranian heritage.  WTF do you care about people who try to kill americans.  FUCK OFF.  Either you are for america or against it.  Pick a side you POS.

[1jkw]

9 hours ago, Capt.Storm said:

But boy when Reagan sold them a few guns all hell broke lose...and he was getting hostages released also.

 

The Iran-Contra Affair was a clandestine action not approved of by the United States Congress. It began in 1985, when President Ronald Reagan's administration supplied weapons to Iran¹ — a sworn enemy — in hopes of securing the release of American hostages held in Lebanon by Hezbollah terrorists loyal to the Ayatollah Khomeini, Iran's leader. This article is rooted in the Iran Hostage Crisis.

The U.S. took millions of dollars from the weapons sale and routed them and guns to the right-wing "Contra"² guerrillas in Nicaragua. The Contras were the armed opponents of Nicaragua's Sandinista Junta of National Reconstruction, following the July 1979 overthrow of strongman Anastasio Somoza Debayle and the ending of the Somoza family's 43-year reign.

Illegal trading

The transactions that took place in the Iran-Contra scandal were contrary to the legislation of the Democratic-dominated Congress and contrary to official Reagan administration policy.

Part of the deal was that, in July 1985, the United States would send 508 American-made TOW anti-tank missiles from Israel to Iran for the safe exchange of a hostage, the Reverend Benjamin Weir.

After that successful transfer, the Israelis offered to ship 500 HAWK surface-to-air missiles to Iran in November 1985, in exchange for the release of all remaining American hostages being held in Lebanon. Eventually the arms were sold with proceeds going to the contras, and the hostages were released.

In February 1986, 1,000 TOW missiles were shipped to Iran. From May to November, there were more shipments of various weapons and parts.

Eventually Hezbollah elected to kidnap more hostages following their release of the previous ones, which rendered meaningless any further dealings with Iran.

The affair is exposed

It was not until 1986 that word had gotten out about the secret transactions. The Lebanese magazine Ash-Shiraa published a series of articles in November 1986, that exposed the weapons-for-hostages deal. On November 18th, 1987, the Congress issued a report on the affair that stated the president bore "ultimate responsibility."

Upon further investigation, Attorney General Edwin Meese verified the report and an independent special prosecutor, Lawrence E. Walsh, was assigned to investigate the deals involving the arms sale and the Contra support.

President Reagan appointed a review board, headed by former Republican Senator John Tower. The Tower Commission's report concluded that the president had been inefficient in controlling the National Security Council, the agency that had actually made the illegal deals, and had known about the arms sale to the Iranians. However, it could not be discovered in hearings if the president had known about the Contra support.

Court hearings and convictions

 

It was illegal to sell arms to Iran, and Reagan lied about it, he also did pay ransom (weapons) to get hostages free.

[Mileage Psycho]

10 hours ago, Capt.Storm said:

And your ok with them funding terrorism? 

What terrorist are they funding?

[Mileage Psycho]

9 hours ago, 1jkw said:

The money was from an arms deal that was in the works before the Shaw was overthrown, and Iran had a case against the US in the world tribunal and it would have cost the US more than what was agreed upon.

I just watched an interview on PBS News Hour they had the WJS reporter on who wrote the article, 1 the 400 million was Iran's 2 the justice department was only concerned with the optics,  3 the only thing in dispute is what Iran says and what the US says about  the purpose of returning their money.

This and we got off with the deal on the cheap.

[Anler]

10 hours ago, Capt.Storm said:

not to forget their nuke program of course.

Can you name some if the terrorist activities they "funded"?

[Mainecat]

12 hours ago, jtssrx said:

Sen. Kirk: $400 Million to Iran ‘Ransom to Kidnappers’

The Obama administration continues to deny that a $400 million cash payment to the Iranian regime in January was a ransom for American captives released that month — even though the Iranian regime has described it as such.

On Tuesday, the Wall Street Journal reportedthat the cash was delivered in secret, like a super villain scene in a James Bond movie: “Wooden pallets stacked with euros, Swiss francs and other currencies were flown into Iran on an unmarked cargo plane.”

 

SIGN UP FOR OUR NEWSLETTER

 

It was only the first installment of $1.7 billion that was purportedly owed to Iran to settle claims predating the fall of the Shah in 1979.

Since the days of President Thomas Jefferson, when American sailors were kidnapped by marauding Muslim pirates, the U.S. has resisted paying ransom to free its citizens, lest that create an incentive to kidnap more of them. That is exactly what Iran has done, seizing several more Americans since the beginning of the year, including a California man last month.

In January, White House spokesman Josh Earnest called the Iran deal, including the $1.7 billion payment, as “Exhibit A in the administration pursuing tough, principled diplomacy in a way that actually ends up making the American people safer and advancing the interests of the United States more effectively than military action.”

Yet Obama was ashamed enough to carry out the swap in secret, using foreign currency because of U.S. sanctions that prevent dealing with the regime in U.S. dollars.

At the time, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) warned that the deal “put a price on the head of every American abroad.” Other Republican presidential candidates made similar criticisms.

Following the news of how the cash was delivered, members of Congress, who have sought details about the payment for months, reacted angrily.

Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL) said: “We were right in January 2016 to describe the Administraion’s $1.7 billion transfer to Iran as a ransom payment. Paying ransom to kidnappers puts Americans even more at risk. While Americans were relieved by Iran’s overdue release of illegally imprisoned American hostages, the White House’s policy of appeasement has led Iran to illegally seize more American hostages, including Siamak Namazi, his father Baquer Namazi, and Reza Shahini.”

The Obama administration insists Iran will use the money for infrastructure, not to fund its worldwide terror operations.

So now you trust and believe Iran?

 

[1jkw]

7 hours ago, racer254 said:

Jesus fucking christ. Are you a person with Iranian heritage.  WTF do you care about people who try to kill americans.  FUCK OFF.  Either you are for america or against it.  Pick a side you POS.

No, you stupid little fucker I'm not. The only thing I care about is this country, decades of  ill will  between Iran and the US has helped nothing. If you knew the history between our countries you might grasp why Iran might not like us. It is an attempt to better relations and better regulate and keep track of their nuclear program that in turn  helps protect this country. And for the record our allies in the ME have killed more Americans then Iran. So until you have one clue keep your petty little insults to yourself. 

[Capt.Storm]

4 minutes ago, Anler said:

Can you name some if the terrorist activities they "funded"?

In addition to carrying out direct attacks, Iran has committed terrorism by proxy through Hezbollah, Hamas, the Taliban, militias in Iraq, and a plethora of other terrorist groups. Iran has a long history ofterrorist attacks against the U.S. and Israel, mainly through bombings, abductions, and hijackings.

Terrorism Timeline | UANI - United Against Nuclear Iran

www2.unitedagainstnucleariran.com/terrorism

[Zambroski]

I posted this yesterday but again, it doesn't matter how/why this deal got done.  Makes ZERO difference.  The timing of and how it all transpired shows our State Department got "duped over" again by a far superior intellectual administration from another country purposefully meaning to smear us...and did it well.  News is out..we pay ransoms now.  MUTHA FUCKA!!!!!

And Reagan ran a different show.  He was a bit of a hot head when it came to other countries threadtening the US.  Our military was quite engaged around the world then....before CNN and MSNBC were allowed to make up their own stories on the what and why's we were spilling blood out there.

[Capt.Storm]

https://www.clarionproject.org/sites/default/files/Iranian-Support-For-Terrorism.pdf