Dow 26,000:

[Zambroski]

1 hour ago, revkevsdi said:

You probably saw a movie about a guy who was making big money in single trades and decided that you'd pretend it was you. You seem to confuse fiction with real life a lot.

But in real life if a low life like you made that kind of money off one trade, your answer would be, bought x shares of x on this date, sold it for x on this date.  You would have answered half an hour ago.  Not spent the time avoiding the question.  

You are probably researching stock prices now so you can make something up. 

 

25 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

@Zambroski    How to chase away a lying faggot. You ran away so fast you scared little liar. 

If you’d spend less time trying to keep up with your own lies in between being a beta, hating dork, you’d remember what I bought.

I don’t care what some lying loser thinks of me, I don’t have a credibility problem on any website.  Now, everyone knows what you are about.  Well, you AND your brother!

 

[ArcticCrusher]

10 hours ago, Skidooski said:

How fucking pathetic can you get? Now you quote yourself tagging Zamboni as you chase him around. Damn dude....you got it bad for him

So short dudes wearing plastic sandals is your thing  

How about some croc keychains?

Why not.

Edited July 31, 2019 by ArcticCrusher

[ArcticCrusher]

Good read from a link I just received.  Dates back to Jan, but spot on regardless.

 

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It’s always important to have a good understanding of your risk tolerance. “If an 18 percent drop in stocks is enough to cause you to change your entire investment strategy, that money shouldn’t have been in stocks to begin with.”

 

What Should You Do About a Falling Stock Market? Nothing

If you had a perfect ability to predict how far the market would fall and when it would bottom out, it would make sense to move money in and out. But you do not.

Millions of investors will receive year-end statements from their brokerages and retirement plan managers in the coming weeks, and the great majority of them will have unpleasant news: losses.

The S&P 500 finished the year down 6.2 percent, with the steepest declines recorded in the fourth quarter.

With Apple’s announcement of disappointing sales in China on Wednesday, the bad times for stocks continued in the first week of the new year. While most economic data has remained strong, there are some rumblings that 2019 may be quite a bit rougher than 2018. Corporate executives are becoming more pessimistic, according to surveys, and Americans are conducting Google searches for the word “recession” at the highest rate since the last one just ended in 2009.

If it all makes you want to flee — or at least shift your 401(k) into cash — that’s understandable. It’s also a bad idea.

The sensible response to this unnerving series of developments is to do pretty much anything else. Read a book. Go for a walk. Take up knitting. Or just do nothing at all, like take a nap.

If you are a long-term investor (and any money you have tied up in the stock market should be intended for the long term to begin with), tumult like that of the last few months isn’t something that should cause panic. Rather, it’s the price you pay for enjoying returns that, over long time horizons, are likely to be substantially higher than those for cash or bonds.

That’s true if this episode turns out to be a false alarm for the overall economy, as is a distinct possibility. But it’s also true even if this does turn out to be the start of a prolonged period of economic and market distress — especially if you are still in the phase of your life of contributing to a retirement plan or otherwise accumulating savings.

The recent pessimistic tone in markets is getting way ahead of the evidence. Nothing so far in either the economic data or the market indicators that most reliably predict economic swings suggests there will be anything worse than a modest slowdown in economic growth in 2019.

 

Businesses are still expanding and adding jobs. The yield on two-year Treasury bonds has fallen in the last three months, but it would have fallen a lot more if the bond market — which tends to be closely tied to the direction of the overall economy — had been predicting an imminent recession.

Moreover, an investor who moved money into cash now would be doing so just as the valuation of stocks was becoming more favorable — buying high and selling low, not the way great fortunes are made. That’s especially true when you factor in the drop in longer-term interest rates, which makes shares particularly appealing relative to bonds.

In early November, investing $100 in stocks would buy you about $4.64 worth of corporate earnings, versus the $3.21 in interest you would could receive by investing in 10-year Treasury bonds. Now, stocks offer $5.25, while bonds offer only $2.61.

But most important, even if the economic road ahead really is as bumpy as some in markets seem to fear, you’re probably not going to be successful at timing those swings just right.

Of course, if you had a perfect ability to predict how far the market would fall and when it would bottom out, it would make sense to move money in and out. You do not.

There is a wide range of evidence that people are pitiful at timing the market. Even supposed investment experts lack that prescience.

Even if you turned out to be right about a continuing tumble in 2019, the great risk would be that whenever the rebound began, you would be caught out of position, unable to take advantage.

Suppose you were clever enough to recognize at the start of December 2007 that a major recession was about to take place, and you moved your money out of stocks.

Yes, you would have saved yourself from steep losses in 2008 and early 2009. But you have to ask yourself: Would I have also had the courage to put money back in while the economy was still in horrendous shape in 2009, with double-digit unemployment and a banking system in tatters?

If not then, when would you have moved money back in? People who simply left their savings fully invested in the stock market in December 2007 have now made a 134 percent return on that money. Would you have done better than that, or would you have missed out on a big chunk of those gains out of the same caution that led you to pull money out of stocks to begin with?

People who did not panic in the fall of 2008 — the most panic-worthy time in most of our lifetimes — and kept putting their retirement funds into stocks did indeed incur steep losses over the ensuing months. But their newly invested funds were being put into stocks at the most favorable valuations in a generation, and thus enjoyed the full benefit of the rebound when it eventually came.

A truism of economic and financial cycles is that by the time it feels like the coast is clear and putting money into riskier investments is completely safe, the real money has already been made. People who looked at the economic chaos of early 2009 and stuck to their guns have ended up far better off than those who, convinced that a double-dip downturn was imminent, waited for years to get in.

This equation changes, of course, if we’re talking about money needed imminently as opposed to longer-term savings, such as for retirement. The economy looks stable now, but that could change — it’s still possible that markets and C.E.O.s know something about the future that isn’t clear in the data yet.

But that’s more of a fundamental argument about how your assets should be allocated. If an 18 percent drop in stocks is enough to cause you to change your entire investment strategy, that money shouldn’t have been in stocks to begin with.

The entire point of investing in stocks is that you get greater long-term expected returns in exchange for tolerating bigger ups and downs. Episodes like those of the last few weeks are, in effect, the price you pay for returns that are substantially higher than bonds or cash over longer periods.

Just as there are no free lunches, there are no excess returns without some volatility and risk.

As individual investors, we cannot control volatility. What we can control is our own mind-set and reaction, and the more level your head, the better your long-term results are likely to be.

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/03/upshot/stock-market-is-falling-do-nothing.html?utm_source=itrac&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=AOB%3A+(Not)+boring+finds+for+July+2019+2019-07-31

 

 

Edited July 31, 2019 by ArcticCrusher

[Angry ginger]

average joe investors who try to time the market are retards who end up way behind.  Esp for those who aren't close to retirement,  keep socking it away.  

 

[revkevsdi]

16 hours ago, Zambroski said:

 

If you’d spend less time trying to keep up with your own lies in between being a beta, hating dork, you’d remember what I bought.

I don’t care what some lying loser thinks of me, I don’t have a credibility problem on any website.  Now, everyone knows what you are about.  Well, you AND your brother!

 

The delay was you looking back 170 pages to find out what your last lie was. 

You pathetic little liar. 

Zambo the clown. : “I don’t care what you think of me”

also Zambo the clown: Here are lies about things I wish happened in order to impress you. 

Edited July 31, 2019 by revkevsdi

[Zambroski]

2 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

The delay was you looking back 170 pages to find out what your last lie was. 

You pathetic little liar. 

Zambo the clown. : “I don’t care what you think of me”

also Zambo the clown: Here are lies about things I wish happened in order to impress you. 

I don't need to look back at all.  SBYL.  Like I said, I'm not the liar here.

Also, why are you convinced I believe you make $150k a year?   Do you keep it in a safe in your "mansion".  

What a dork!   

[ArcticCrusher]

3 hours ago, Angry ginger said:

average joe investors who try to time the market are retards who end up way behind.  Esp for those who aren't close to retirement,  keep socking it away.  

 

Same note for the pros, they have zero clue.

[ArcticCrusher]

10 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

I don't need to look back at all.  SBYL.  Like I said, I'm not the liar here.

Also, why are you convinced I believe you make $150k a year?   Do you keep it in a safe in your "mansion".  

What a dork!   

Tell him to post up his T4.

[Zambroski]

Just now, ArcticCrusher said:

Tell him to post up his T4.

LOL....he's such a fraud.

[Highmark]

FAANGT having a nice day.  

[f7ben]

10 minutes ago, Highmark said:

FAANGT having a nice day.  

Manufacturing shrinks , home sales shrink , jobless claims up and on and on and on....

BUT WE MIGHT MAYBE SOMEDAY GET ANOTHER RATE CUT!!!!!!!

BUY BUY BUY BUY DERP DERP BUY!!!

[Highmark]

1 hour ago, f7ben said:

Manufacturing shrinks , home sales shrink , jobless claims up and on and on and on....

BUT WE MIGHT MAYBE SOMEDAY GET ANOTHER RATE CUT!!!!!!!

BUY BUY BUY BUY DERP DERP BUY!!!

Poor Ben.  

 

[DriftBusta]

20 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Same note for the pros, they have zero clue.

I’d disagree on that big time.

2 hours ago, f7ben said:

Manufacturing shrinks , home sales shrink , jobless claims up and on and on and on....

BUT WE MIGHT MAYBE SOMEDAY GET ANOTHER RATE CUT!!!!!!!

BUY BUY BUY BUY DERP DERP BUY!!!

And you should just put your money in a target date fund and keep your hands off it.

[f7ben]

5 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

I’d disagree on that big time.

And you should just put your money in a target date fund and keep your hands off it.

I'm having a great day!!!!!

[Highmark]

Dammit Donald!     

[f7ben]

17 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Dammit Donald!     

[ArcticCrusher]

2 hours ago, DriftBusta said:

I’d disagree on that big time.

And you should just put your money in a target date fund and keep your hands off it.

Who has been successfully timing the markets then.

I'm sure as hell not going to allow anyone that does not have a long term track record doing so to play practice with my portfolio.

[Angry ginger]

23 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Same note for the pros, they have zero clue.

they at least make educated guesses rather then wild ass guesses. 

[DriftBusta]

37 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Who has been successfully timing the markets then.

I'm sure as hell not going to allow anyone that does not have a long term track record doing so to play practice with my portfolio.

Professional portfolio managers do it all the time.  But they sit at a desk and study 6-8 monitors all day long.

Don't blame you.  But you often shit on guys regularly who do this for a living.  There are good money managers and their are lazy ones.  There are clients willing to take risks and their are many who don’t.  Its alot different when you’re managing other peoples money.  Thats all Im saying.  

[ArcticCrusher]

14 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

they at least make educated guesses rather then wild ass guesses. 

Educated stock guesses or market timing?

I only care about proven track records.

[ArcticCrusher]

5 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Professional portfolio managers do it all the time.  But they sit at a desk and study 6-8 monitors all day long.

Don't blame you.  But you often shit on guys regularly who do this for a living.  There are good money managers and their are lazy ones.  There are clients willing to take risks and their are many who don’t.  Its alot different when you’re managing other peoples money.  Thats all Im saying.  

I shit on the over 130 FA guys who since about 2011 have been spewing the sky is falling shit better get into fixed income.

They were wrong, every single one of them.

Managing other people's money with your clients like Barbie, good luck.

[DriftBusta]

9 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

I shit on the over 130 FA guys who since about 2011 have been spewing the sky is falling shit better get into fixed income.

They were wrong, every single one of them.

Managing other people's money with your clients like Barbie, good luck.

Thats fucked up.  Not even close to what our chief economists are preaching or anything Id recommend.   I have a few like Berbie, including one due in next week to roll over about a million bucks worth of cds.  She’s gonna be happy when I tell her I’ll be lucky to find her 2.25% even for. 1-2 year.  Yields suck right now.

[f7ben]

16 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Thats fucked up.  Not even close to what our chief economists are preaching or anything Id recommend.   I have a few like Berbie, including one due in next week to roll over about a million bucks worth of cds.  She’s gonna be happy when I tell her I’ll be lucky to find her 2.25% even for. 1-2 year.  Yields suck right now.

Did you see that new online bank offering 3% on all deposits?

[Zambroski]

On 7/31/2019 at 7:25 AM, ArcticCrusher said:

How about some croc keychains?

Why not.

It’s important I find out the exact whereabouts of this stand....for a friend.

[DriftBusta]

1 minute ago, f7ben said:

Did you see that new online bank offering 3% on all deposits?

No, but read the fine print.  We have a tool that shops cds all over the country.  Often times you can find some small blocks paying pretty good rates, north of 3%.  Last couple months the inventory has gone way down.