Zambroski Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, f7ben said: that is a lie that you have been told ....please examine history and pull your head out of your ass while you are at it No. And even if it was, what's the argument that makes sense here? Fact is they've declared holy war on our culture and blasphemy. Accepting it as some kind of "get what you get blowback" is lunacy and idiocy. If I went to your house, burned it down, killed you family and shot your dog, I'm not going to give you a bus ticket, pocket full of walking around money, tell you to invite your friends and have you all over for a god damn BBQ Because I'M NOT A LIBRUL FOOL. Reality is, if I left you alive...I'm incompetent and those in charge should send others to do the job. Starting with you. Get what I'm laying down? Hint: "glass". Whew..that oughta spin a few up here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Most ignorant shit I've read today. You clearly don't read your own posts. The only thing funnier than your "socialists" rhetoric is the vehicle in which you think you're going to get there. Wake up. Grow up. Get real. Fluff pot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: No. And even if it was, what's the argument that makes sense here? Fact is they've declared holy war on our culture and blasphemy. Accepting it as some kind of "get what you get blowback" is lunacy and idiocy. If I went to your house, burned it down, killed you family and shot your dog, I'm not going to give you a bus ticket, pocket full of walking around money, tell you to invite your friends and have you all over for a god damn BBQ Because I'M NOT A LIBRUL FOOL. Reality is, if I left you alive...I'm incompetant and those in charge should send others to do the job. Starting with you. Get what I'm laying down? Hint: "glass". Whew..that oughta spin a few up here! We got it fuckin coming. It's that simple. Ignoring the fact that we've been fucking around over there for the better part of a century makes your position completely and unquestionably invalid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, motonoggin said: "A couple of years" vs 1400 years it has been a drop in the bucket. Look when you here these guys who push for ISIS/ Caliphate they are thinking in terms that go back further than the last 50 years. Hey maybe Spain and Northern France still hold a grudge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: We got it fuckin coming. It's that simple. Ignoring the fact that we've been fucking around over there for the better part of a century makes your position completely and unquestionably invalid. The US has been there for a Century? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, Carlos Danger said: vs 1400 years it has been a drop in the bucket. Look when you here these guys who push for ISIS/ Caliphate they are thinking in terms that go back further than the last 50 years. Hey maybe Spain and Northern France still hold a grudge. Hmm. Too bad we didn't allow a large middle Eastern country to remain a democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, Carlos Danger said: The US has been there for a Century? "The better part of a century" Please, let's argue more semantic bullshit though so we don't have to face the fact that we are getting what we asked for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: The US has been there for a Century? Ah ....yah.....its going on the better part of a century for sure. Did you think 2001 was our first foray into the sandbox???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, motonoggin said: Hmm. Too bad we didn't allow a large middle Eastern country to remain a democracy. You hang your hat on that like it was going to make the middle east all warm and fuzzy full of peace and prosperity. the tribal warfare mentality of the entire region is long and well documented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: We got it fuckin coming. It's that simple. Ignoring the fact that we've been fucking around over there for the better part of a century makes your position completely and unquestionably invalid. We should lay down and die then. You can start that movement. And "my postition" has been developed through education, reason, research and intellect. Shared through the real scholars on the subject. Not some shit-torn anacrchial bible in which you undoubtedly immerse your brain every day. "We got it coming.".....fine, then let's prepare and not be ass-clowns about it. Let's inject real fear in people like only Americans can! I mean REAL FEAR. No lines in the sand needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, Carlos Danger said: You hang your hat on that like it was going to make the middle east all warm and fuzzy full of peace and prosperity. the tribal warfare mentality of the entire region is long and well documented. Iran would have been such a significant stabilizing force .....man I cant even imagine how different the whole picture would have been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: "The better part of a century" Please, let's argue more semantic bullshit though so we don't have to face the fact that we are getting what we asked for. Yes but the point is every power that be has fought over a piece of the sandbox since the discovery of Oil. Look at Syria they have been propped up by the Russians for how long? Islam is no innocent by stander in the long bloody history of the middle east. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, Carlos Danger said: Yes but the point is every power that be has fought over a piece of the sandbox since the discovery of Oil. Look at Syria they have been propped up by the Russians for how long? Islam is no innocent by stander in the long bloody history of the middle east. sounds like a bunch of excuses for why we have done what we did there.......just acknowledge that its no surprise piles of sand people want to attack us and its our own fault the end 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: Iran would have been such a significant stabilizing force .....man I cant even imagine how different the whole picture would have been Ben don't fall for the Disney narrative on Iran. Just like Iraq the only time they see relative peace is when some awful dictator puts his boot on the neck of the populace. An almost constant state of unrest has existed for what 2000 years? Did the Election of Nasser in Egypt turn them into a big warm soft teddy bear at peace with everyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: Ben don't fall for the Disney narrative on Iran. Just like Iraq the only time they see relative peace is when some awful dictator puts his boot on the neck of the populace. An almost constant state of unrest has existed for what 2000 years? Did the Election of Nasser in Egypt turn them into a big warm soft teddy bear at peace with everyone? Iran was very westernized and had a democratically elected government.....no Mullahs back then or ayatollahs Edited November 1, 2017 by f7ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, f7ben said: sounds like a bunch of excuses for why we have done what we did there.......just acknowledge that its no surprise piles of sand people want to attack us and its our own fault the end That would require the removal of all blame from to many who desperately deserve a huge heap of blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Carlos Danger said: Ben don't fall for the Disney narrative on Iran. Just like Iraq the only time they see relative peace is when some awful dictator puts his boot on the neck of the populace. An almost constant state of unrest has existed for what 2000 years? Did the Election of Nasser in Egypt turn them into a big warm soft teddy bear at peace with everyone? Iran was a parliamentary democracy before we re-installed the shah. Wtf, dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, f7ben said: Iran was very westernized and had a democratically elected government.....no Mullahs back then Yes and the Shaw did much of the westenizing. Islam and backward ideas were always just under the surface just like today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DriftBusta Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 You'll never get it in some of these dipshits heads Carl. Its our fault. Don't forget it. Fuck me what stupidity and myopic nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 32 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: Yea if you want to say the fight for a Caliphate or Jihad is some how new and is only happening because we have been fighting in their back yard for a couple of years I think you are missing the bigger picture. Tell you what, this is a perfect example of why religion is for weak minded fools. To kill on behalf of religion and not for imperialism is just foolish. So old dude made a pretty good case for Islamic radicalism, great job. I hope he gets an award. I wonder what a map of Roman imperialism would look like, or English imperialism over the last 1000 years? Because that would stretch the entire world, from China, India, Africa, the ENTIRE middle East, United States, Caribbean, Canada, etc... Now let's compare Soviet imperialism, now let's compare American imperialism. How many europeans, Canadians, Jews, christians and Americans have been killed by radical islamists from say 1945 to 2001 and then compare the number of middle easterners who have been killed by allied forces since 2001? What do you think those results would look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Iran was a parliamentary democracy before we re-installed the shah. Wtf, dude Yes Yes Lawrence of Arabia I get that. constitutional monarchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 30 minutes ago, motonoggin said: We got it fuckin coming. It's that simple. Ignoring the fact that we've been fucking around over there for the better part of a century makes your position completely and unquestionably invalid. Sorry, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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f7ben Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, DriftBusta said: Sorry, no. your idiotic misunderstanding of middle east policy is literally the laugh of the forums. Now get back to work finding those WMD's Rumsfeld you fucking idiot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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