Ez ryder Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 10 minutes ago, The Rocket said: Who mentioned partial birth abortions until you brought it up? if you support p.p you support sticking a spike in the skull on its way out so own it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 26 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: so you are on record for partial birth abortion and willing to fight for it . ok got it . for the record I am ok with aborting in first 2 or 3 months after that not so much where the fuck did that come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 50 minutes ago, Highmark said: You just want to control how much and think it will have no effect on future innovations. fuckingaright. to take an existing drug that's suddenly found to have a dual use...then be able to jack up the price several thousand percent should be considered a criminal act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rocket Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ez ryder said: if you support p.p you support sticking a spike in the skull on its way out so own it We don't live in a black and white world. Are you against late term abortions if the mother's life is at risk or the fetus has a fatal or significant defect? And for the record I'm from Canada where abortion law is extremely open and late term abortions are legal. Edited September 7, 2017 by The Rocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 israel has free abortion services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rocket Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 14 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: israel has free abortion services. So does Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 23 minutes ago, The Rocket said: So does Canada. cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted September 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Ez ryder said: and you 2 are at the center of the circle jerk EZBukkake Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted September 7, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) Gotta love the black and white world dummies like the Clown Posse live in Edited September 7, 2017 by SnowRider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 29 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Gotta love the black and white world dummies like the Clown Posse live in What the fuck does his even mean? Chinless Wrestlers are stooopid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 9 hours ago, ICEMAN! said: This place is like a Petrie dish of alt right stupidity Paid up on your blowhard mouth yet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 6 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said: israel has free abortion services. God's chosen people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 8, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 8, 2017 16 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said: fuckingaright. to take an existing drug that's suddenly found to have a dual use...then be able to jack up the price several thousand percent should be considered a criminal act. Or just have it the same price in all countries. Goes up for some down for others. Easy fix. Countries that won't pay a bit more simply don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Or just have it the same price in all countries. Goes up for some down for others. Easy fix. Countries that won't pay a bit more simply don't get it. many pharmaceutical companies are based in europe. that idea simply won't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 8, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: many pharmaceutical companies are based in europe. that idea simply won't work. So do they offer their drugs around the world for less than they offer them here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 23 minutes ago, Highmark said: So do they offer their drugs around the world for less than they offer them here? of course. other countries have price controls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 8, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: of course. other countries have price controls. And if we are allowed to buy from foreign suppliers it will change for everyone. I just think its a dangerous road to go down the govt trying to predict the level of margin that is acceptable. I'd rather see the market do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: And if we are allowed to buy from foreign suppliers it will change for everyone. I just think its a dangerous road to go down the govt trying to predict the level of margin that is acceptable. I'd rather see the market do it. competition never has and never will work to bring the cost of healthcare down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, Highmark said: And if we are allowed to buy from foreign suppliers it will change for everyone. I just think its a dangerous road to go down the govt trying to predict the level of margin that is acceptable. I'd rather see the market do it. How would the market control the price of a drug that has a 25 yr patent on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: How would the market control the price of a drug that has a 25 yr patent on it? Patents are 17 years and after drug testing and final approval, a drug company likely has about 7 years to itself. Most of the major Pharma are in the business of patent replacement as there isn't as much money competing with generics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 8, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: Patents are 17 years and after drug testing and final approval, a drug company likely has about 7 years to itself. Most of the major Pharma are in the business of patent replacement as there isn't as much money competing with generics. Funny how people think they know so much about the pharmaceutical industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 8, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, ActionfigureJoe said: competition never has and never will work to bring the cost of healthcare down. That's complete bullshit. Things like joint replacement and lasik eye surgery have come down over time as more and more places do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 50 minutes ago, Highmark said: That's complete bullshit. Things like joint replacement and lasik eye surgery have come down over time as more and more places do it. With lasik they brought the price down because by doing so they could sell more surgeries. Technology has lowered prices far more than actual competition has rare do you see people really price shopping for medical service or a med facility advertising an MRI for less than the other guys like you do in almost every other industry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 8, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: With lasik they brought the price down because by doing so they could sell more surgeries. Technology has lowered prices far more than actual competition has rare do you see people really price shopping for medical service or a med facility advertising an MRI for less than the other guys like you do in almost every other industry Competition plays into technology (make more of them the cheaper they are to sell) and people do not have to shop around for competition to effect pricing. Simply having more available drives down costs. Simple supply and demand. If I have the equipment around to do a procedure but are not doing enough to pay it off chances are the price will come down. While I agree insurance causes less shopping around it still happens for selective procedures. Edited September 8, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 15 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: With lasik they brought the price down because by doing so they could sell more surgeries. Technology has lowered prices far more than actual competition has rare do you see people really price shopping for medical service or a med facility advertising an MRI for less than the other guys like you do in almost every other industry lasik, for all practical purposes is considered cosmetic. the cost of cosmetic surgery has increased 30% compared to the 120% cost increase of non-cosmetic surgeries over the same time period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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