snatchslayer Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 How the fuck is this racist prick so popular and how the fuck does a presidential candidate get on list for being banned from a country From The Atlantic CityLab MENU Britain's Parliament Just Debated Banning Donald Trump From the U.K. Contempt for his anti-Muslim rhetoric turned out to be bipartisan. FEARGUS O'SULLIVAN @FeargusOSull Jan 22, 2016 Comments Donald Trump visiting Scotland in summer 2015. (Reuters Pictures) It’s not just in the U.S. that Donald Trump’s campaign for the Republican presidential nomination is making waves. This week the U.K. parliament debated whether or not Trump should be barred from entering Britain—with a depth and seriousness that might surprise outsiders. The session held on Monday (available in full here) came after outrage over Trump’s recent call for a ban on Muslims entering the U.S. A petition calling for the U.K. to bar him in return gained more than 570,000 signatures, enough under British parliamentary conventions to bring up the subject for debate time. Part of the ire in Britain comes from widespread suspicion that discriminatory policies are already in place at the U.S. border—a concern bolstered by the recent barring of aBritish Muslim family en route to Disneyland. Monday’s debate in itself is not enough to change policy; no final vote was taken. But it did reveal a high level of hostility in a session where condemnation of Trump’s anti-Muslim rhetoric turned out to be bipartisan. In fact, as part of an all-around roasting of Trump, the central question boiled down to this: Would banning him from Britain be a stand to protect the country’s minorities, or would it only serve to gain Trump greater publicity? The pro-ban side had some strong arguments in its arsenal. The U.K. government does, after all, exclude some foreign visitors who it believes risk encouraging hatred. As Scottish National Party MP Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh put it: "Since her appointment as home secretary in 2010, Theresa May has already banned hundreds of people from the U.K. Her job is quite correctly to protect public safety and promote our security. She has already excluded 84 people explicitly for hate speech. In my view, under her judgment, Donald Trump should be number 85. Using the powers invested in her, Theresa May has already excluded people who include serious criminal, far right extremists, homophobic extremists—and these rules should be applied consistently and equally to all, because if they exist they exist for that reason." Labour MP Tulip Siddiq insisted on the importance of taking Trump seriously: “This is a man interviewing for the most important job in the world. His words are not comical. His words are not funny. His words are poisonous. They risk inflaming tensions between vulnerable communities. … It was Donald Trump who ran a dog-whistle campaign against Barack Obama’s birth certificate, to find out whether the president of America was really American. Can you imagine in the mother of parliaments if my colleagues decided to question ethnic minority MPS about whether they were really British?” Speakers against the potential ban made the point that it risked descending into posture politics, adopting the same tactics as the man himself. As Conservative MP Paul Scully put it: “I’ve heard of a number of cases where people have been excluded for incitement, for hatred. I’ve never heard of one for stupidity, and I’m not sure that we should be starting now.” Another conservative MP, Edward Leigh, portrayed the ban as something that could only damage the U.K. to Trump’s benefit: “This man may conceivably become President of our most important ally. This would play into Mr. Trump’s hands. His entire style of politics is to stoke controversy and to say outrageous things. Lavishing him with attention, even if our attention is to condemn or deride, is falling into the trap he has set for us. … We must beware of lowering ourselves to demagoguery in fighting demagogues.” Over all this hung the issue of America’s international prestige and the degree to which Trump’s media platform might affect it. Labour MP Paul Flynn was careful to draw a line between condemning Trump and condemning America: “This is no attempt in any way to disrespect the American state. This is a country of which our cultures have melded together over centuries, getting ever closer. This is a country who sacrificed more of its sons and daughters in the cause of creating democracy in other countries than any other nation on Earth.” Other MPs weren’t so sure. Conservative Sam Gyimah insisted that rather than being an aberration, Trump’s anti-Muslim stance was really a case of business as usual: “If Martin Luther King were here today he’d be very surprised at the sugar-coated version of American history [presented here]. I regret to say this … but the exclusion of people on the grounds of race, color, ethnicity is something that has often happened in U.S. history. In that light, Donald J. Trump’s hateful, objectionable views have a history in the American political area … from a long line of nativist legislation. We can object to this, we can decry this, but that is no grounds on which to ban a presidential candidate.” Beneath the exchange ran an uncomfortable truth: Even if the British public wants a debate, the chances of Donald Trump being stopped from entering the country remain extremely slim. There seems, indeed, to be a growing fear that Trump is someone whom the U.K. and other countries might just possibly need to deal with as a President some day. But although many are starting to realize that might be an outside possibility, that doesn’t mean they have to pretend to like it. PREVIOUS An Infrastructure Startup for All Those Crumbling Roads NEXT Microgrids Might Be Ready for the Big City About the Author Feargus O'Sullivan is a London-based contributing writer to CityLab, with a focus on Europe. ALL POSTS @FeargusOSull MOST POPULAR Can China's Futuristic 'Straddling Bus' Finally Become a Reality? Why 2014 Marked a Historic Shift in Housing Arrangements Explore the Creepy Underground Pedestrian Tunnels of Downtown L.A. Geographic Inequality Is Swallowing the Recovery Mapping the Incredible Spread of Million-Dollar Homes Across San Francisco Watch Colorful Bursts of Commuters From Each U.S. County Visualizing 40 Years of the American Diet Is Tourism Spoiling Iceland? Is FOMO Driving Your Housing Decisions? Are Millennial 'Stealth Dorms' Ruining Texas Cities? SEE ALL STORIES STORE T-Shirts, Mugs, and More GO CITYFIXER Solutions for an Urbanizing World GO BACK TO TOP CityLab Share Tweet MENU Through original reporting, sharp analysis, and visual storytelling, CityLabinforms and inspires the people who are creating the cities of the future—and those who want to live there. Follow Newsletter sign up Today’s Top Stories This Week’s Most Popular Stories I want to receive updates from partners and sponsors. More About CityLab Elsewhere at Atlantic Media Copyright 2016 The Atlantic Monthly Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Fuck the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 This is current events not months ago events that got shot down in debate so is not even an issue now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snatchslayer Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Momorider said: This is current events not months ago events that got shot down in debate so is not even an issue now I just realized that ..whoops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 well it's still a issue all the same but holy chit ,wtf. Go Donald go,piss them all off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Obunga is a major whitey hater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 22 minutes ago, Sludgey said: Obunga is a major whitey hater Well if he's seen your AV ya I could see why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowhawkcat Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Fuck me, when is the election over?? It's fucking sickening,that's all u hear or see . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) Edited May 25, 2016 by Zambroski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 25, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 25, 2016 Momo's an American Rump Pumper who pretends he's a CFO from Canada with a mahogany office and helicopter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Can't seem to get vid cut and pastes to work here. Oh well. We are so fucked up it's just better to pretend this is happening somewhere else. The lowest presidential election turn out EVER is expected. And that with a massive drop from even the last one. We are just sick of having to try and pick between the better of two evils. I will say this though, our economy will start to boom if Trump is elected. That doesn't sit well with a lot of people here. Excuses get tougher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 25, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) WTF are you talking about? . This place is full of Rump Pumpers. And the economy isn't getting better under Rump. Hillary FTW How fucking much better do you expect to be after the Dick/W debacle and obstructionists in Congress? Edited May 25, 2016 by SnowRider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Momo's an American Rump Pumper who pretends he's a CFO from Canada with a mahogany office and helicopter. Know nothing lying POS posts what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 25, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 25, 2016 I forgot to add that you're a draft dodger and hence you protect your identity at all costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rump-rider Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Well thats it, I'm changing my vote to hillary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) Here ya go from the greatest President have we have had in last fifty years,, maybe you lib fuckers will figure it out now. This video stands on its own we have way to many pussy's in Washington now!!!! He took shit from no one!!! Edited May 25, 2016 by Badger** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) Oh yes, Hillary, Bill's ugly sister. A lying whiney, pandering, two faced, hypocritical bitch who will almost immediately make us a target for extremists. Trump will too but I think he will instill some fear in them because he's unstable. And fear is what they understand and respect. Not loving hugs, acceptance, and understanding. Edited May 25, 2016 by Zambroski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 25, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 25, 2016 Ronny . How's the trickle? Clint gonna speak again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Axys1 said: Edited May 25, 2016 by Badger** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member joesale Posted May 25, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted May 25, 2016 21 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Momo's an American Rump Pumper who pretends he's a CFO from Canada with a mahogany office and helicopter. Who gives a shit, you pretend to be an intelligent thinking person. I just don't see it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 17 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Can't seem to get vid cut and pastes to work here. Oh well. We are so fucked up it's just better to pretend this is happening somewhere else. The lowest presidential election turn out EVER is expected. And that with a massive drop from even the last one. We are just sick of having to try and pick between the better of two evils. I will say this though, our economy will start to boom if Trump is elected. That doesn't sit well with a lot of people here. Excuses get tougher. Just use the url in your browser address bar instead of the share or embed link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 16 minutes ago, SnowRider said: I forgot to add that you're a draft dodger and hence you protect your identity at all costs. Gullible liar and know nothing FUCK, posts what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumulus Nimbus Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 So barring people from entering the country is the answer to a guy that says he wants to bar people from entering the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, ckf said: Just use the url in your browser address bar instead of the share or embed link Yeah, I know...but I'm on my phone right now. I'll fix it later... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, joesale said: Who gives a shit, you pretend to be an intelligent thinking person. I just don't see it. You are not alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(3).thumb.jpeg.4f14f9223ef00c902fe7c91a0098ffaf.jpeg)
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.