Mainecat Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 11 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Of course it was approved now. It didnt include the border issue. The republicans don’t want a border solution. They are fine having millions of zombies cross the border so they can try and hang it around Biden’s neck in election. By contrast, the Dems brought a border bill forward that was loaded with extra bullshit. They knew that the GOP would vote it down. They did that so they could say the GOP rejected a border bill. Are you so stupid that you can’t see how both parties operate. I swear, I’m the only one smart to see this. You don’t understand compromise at all. Not even bringing it up for a discussion is not the democrats fault it’s purely the republicans holding this up. Blaming both sides is a cop out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonlafon1 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Make the "other" party look bad at all costs. Been going on for 20+ years. Just gotten really bad when they started taking shots at each other on national TV and social media. Anyone ever notice all the sound bites from each side is always negative and aimed at discrediting the other side. BOTH parties do it. Just they have gotten more nasty and personal about it. No rules , just lie and discredit at deny deny deny, deflect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, Mainecat said: You don’t understand compromise at all. Not even bringing it up for a discussion is not the democrats fault it’s purely the republicans holding this up. Blaming both sides is a cop out. The Democrats have one thought in mind when it comes to illegal immigration. They want to prop up the census numbers in DNC owned states to steal seats from GOP run states. They look at illegal immigration as being their ace in the hole to keep majority power. This is the reason Biden opened the borders. Pump more people into country. The long term effects of having these people come pouring into the country is going to be profound. The majority have a completely different culture/language/patronage/mindset and have zero desire to assimilate. Your party is destroying the culture here by design. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 46 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: No it was not a stand alone bill. Had it been (it should have) they still would have killed it or anything on border security. Ask Lankford... he was threatened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 16 minutes ago, jonlafon1 said: Been going on for 20+ years. Finally ... was waiting to see if anyone would bring that up. This has been an issue way longer than Trump vs. Biden. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) Same fuckin shit in 2006 https://www.c-span.org/video/?192506-1/immigration-reform-address Dems killed it as a political weapon Edited April 26 by Crnr2Crnr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted April 26 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 26 You really have to be a special kind of stupid to blame this on Trump or the Republicans. Like partisan brain dead stoopid 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Had it been (it should have) they still would have killed it or anything on border security. Ask Lankford... he was threatened The bill allowed 5000 to cross check points weekly. At that point the president would have to close the check point. That right there still incentivizes Central Americans to make the push here. It also promised court cases to be heard in 6 months instead of years for asylum seekers. There are no judges available. The right answer is simple. Close the fucking border. Seal it. Isn’t 10 million enough? Jesus fucking Christ. Edited April 26 by ActionfigureJoe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 6 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: The bill allowed 5000 to cross check points weekly. At that point the president would have to close the check point. That right there still incentivizes Central Americans to make the push here. It also promised court cases to be heard in 6 months instead of years for asylum seekers. There are no judges available. The right answer is simple. Close the fucking border. Seal it. Isn’t 10 million enough? Jesus fucking Christ. why did CBP endorse it? was it better than the current status quo? is something better than nothing? take a breath man... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Skidooski said: You really have to be a special kind of stupid to blame this on Trump or the Republicans. Like partisan brain dead stoopid Some argue that a lousy bill is better than no bill. The only way that the DNC will give up on their plan to flood America with illegals is if the shipment of these people to Dem run sanctuary cities starts to erode support. There are some signs of this. Especially in Chicago. The blacks are ready to string up mayor Branden Johnson. It’s obvious that supporting these people is having a disastrous effect in Denver. The city is heading into the toilet fast. The decline from even 3 years ago is unfortunate. Edited April 26 by ActionfigureJoe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: why did CBP endorse it? was it better than the current status quo? is something better than nothing? take a breath man... That bill wouldn’t have been necessary had Biden stayed with Trump’s EOs. What’s with that? Why did Biden do that? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted April 26 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Some argue that a lousy bill is better than no bill. The only way that the DNC will give up on their plan to flood America with illegals is if the shipment of these people to Dem run sanctuary cities starts to erode support. There are some signs of this. Especially in Chicago. The blacks are ready to string up mayor Branden Johnson. It’s obvious that supporting these people is having a disastrous effect in Denver. The city is heading into the toilet fast. The decline from even 3 years is unfortunate. Take an existing issue and make it ten times worse. Then put up a garbage Bill and blame it on the other side for not supporting it. Meanwhile the flood gates are still wide open and at all time record flow. I hope these sanctuary cities drown in these people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, ActionfigureJoe said: That bill wouldn’t have been necessary had Biden stayed with Trump’s EOs. What’s with that? Why did Biden do that? fuck if I know... not a Biden cheerleader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: fuck if I know... not a Biden cheerleader Yeah. I don’t know how anyone could be. Edited April 26 by ActionfigureJoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 11 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Yeah. I don’t know how anyone could be. I feel most are on the same page regarding the matter... it's the political weaponization of 'immigration' (legal or otherwise) for the past two or even three decades that is not allowing a rational conversation about it or allowing anything to be done about it. see cspan video link I posted from 2006, it could be from 2024 if you adjusted the numbers. it's matters as such where I have fully equal disdain for both major parties... and the morons who continue to elect them. and before the Trumpers sound off... he had an opportunity to do something about it in his first term as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 44 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: why did CBP endorse it? was it better than the current status quo? is something better than nothing? take a breath man... But it’s both sides……both sides crafted the bill one side is holding it to bitch about it. Blaming both sides on this issue just shows how uninformed many here are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag6240 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 7 minutes ago, Mainecat said: But it’s both sides……both sides crafted the bill one side is holding it to bitch about it. Blaming both sides on this issue just shows how uninformed many here are. Not blaming both sides brings out the partisan hacks - Exhibit A 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 9 minutes ago, Mainecat said: But it’s both sides……both sides crafted the bill one side is holding it to bitch about it. Blaming both sides on this issue just shows how uninformed many here are. You have to blame both. If your beloved party of idiots had brought up a logical solution without all sorts of pork attached to it then perhaps you could point more one way but the lefties want this to be political as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 12 minutes ago, Mainecat said: But it’s both sides……both sides crafted the bill one side is holding it to bitch about it. Blaming both sides on this issue just shows how uninformed many here are. 4 minutes ago, Mag6240 said: Not blaming both sides brings out the partisan hacks - Exhibit A 2 minutes ago, Deephaven said: You have to blame both. If your beloved party of idiots had brought up a logical solution without all sorts of pork attached to it then perhaps you could point more one way but the lefties want this to be political as well getting nothing done using the subject as a political weapon getting nothing done wash, rinse and repeat for a few decades from both sides same getting nothing done can be said of our debt, as well as social security, etc. 'we' deserve exactly the government we have and will get. it's 'our' fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted April 26 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 26 18 minutes ago, Mainecat said: But it’s both sides……both sides crafted the bill one side is holding it to bitch about it. Blaming both sides on this issue just shows how uninformed many here are. One side because they shit all over what was working way better than now. They fucked it up and now push the blame off like little children Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, jonlafon1 said: Make the "other" party look bad at all costs. Been going on for 20+ years. Just gotten really bad when they started taking shots at each other on national TV and social media. Anyone ever notice all the sound bites from each side is always negative and aimed at discrediting the other side. BOTH parties do it. Just they have gotten more nasty and personal about it. No rules , just lie and discredit at deny deny deny, deflect we have 24/7 'News' (CNN, FOX, etc) and the Internet to thank for much of it. if you took all the opinion and discussion out of Fox or CNN and they just had to present news and factual information for you the viewer to determine and formulate your own opinion... they'd be lucky to fill 15 minutes of every hour. it's infotainment... cuz it sure as fuck isn't news 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 That is going to hurt some feelings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said: The Democrats have one thought in mind when it comes to illegal immigration. They want to prop up the census numbers in DNC owned states to steal seats from GOP run states. They look at illegal immigration as being their ace in the hole to keep majority power. This is the reason Biden opened the borders. Pump more people into country. The long term effects of having these people come pouring into the country is going to be profound. The majority have a completely different culture/language/patronage/mindset and have zero desire to assimilate. Your party is destroying the culture here by design. We dont agree much, but, its like you described exactly what i have tried explaining to some idiots for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 15 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: we have 24/7 'News' (CNN, FOX, etc) and the Internet to thank for much of it. if you took all the opinion and discussion out of Fox or CNN and they just had to present news and factual information for you the viewer to determine and formulate your own opinion... they'd be lucky to fill 15 minutes of every hour. it's infotainment... cuz it sure as fuck isn't news No one knows the facts when dealings are privately held behind closed doors. They throw the public a decoy through Fox and CNN and while that's being shouted out from the rooftops, the swindlers and weasels are conducting business for themselves and their ilk on our dime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag6240 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 18 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: we have 24/7 'News' (CNN, FOX, etc) and the Internet to thank for much of it. if you took all the opinion and discussion out of Fox or CNN and they just had to present news and factual information for you the viewer to determine and formulate your own opinion... they'd be lucky to fill 15 minutes of every hour. it's infotainment... cuz it sure as fuck isn't news 15 would be awfully generous… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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