Rod Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 10 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: Most? About as accurate as climate change. Adjust on the fly. Everyone thought that pontius pilot didn’t exist. Until it turned out that he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 5 minutes ago, SSFB said: I see Jesus when I ride my 850! Neal rides a Ski-Don't so he's never seen Jesus! Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 18 minutes ago, Rod said: You said I can’t prove that he was a deity. I certainly can’t. Nor was that an argument that I made i said Jesus existed. Which most historians agree that he did. And he changed the world, even if he was just a man. No I said you can't prove he existed, let alone that he was a supernatural being (as the Bible describes). People have no problem agreeing that a Jewish religious teacher named Yeshua existed (as there were many Jewish teachers around at that time), even if it cannot be proven. The issue comes when any type of supernatural power, or deity claim is applied Jesus. Neal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 7 minutes ago, Rod said: Everyone thought that pontius pilot didn’t exist. Until it turned out that he did There weren’t even any planes around then, how could he have been a pilot. Wow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted March 31 Gold Member Share Posted March 31 Of course he existed. How else did he write the bibe....wait what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Just now, Kivalo said: Of course he existed. How else did he write the bibe....wait what? Fuck! You are dumb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 34 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: No I said you can't prove he existed, let alone that he was a supernatural being (as the Bible describes). People have no problem agreeing that a Jewish religious teacher named Yeshua existed (as there were many Jewish teachers around at that time), even if it cannot be proven. The issue comes when any type of supernatural power, or deity claim is applied Jesus. Neal I ever said he was a supernatural being but most historians agree that he at least existed as a man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 8 minutes ago, Kivalo said: Of course he existed. How else did he write the bibe....wait what? The Catholics\romans actually put the bible together although they perverted it really bad and it wasn’t until Luther translated it that we got the context of what Jesus really said and meant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 47 minutes ago, Rod said: Everyone thought that pontius pilot didn’t exist. Until it turned out that he did Prove it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 If Jesus wasn’t real, then explain this photo? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 16 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: Prove it! See the OP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 This is kinda wild. Jesus existed. Basically a historical fact. Yet anti science nurds are upset. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted March 31 Gold Member Share Posted March 31 1 hour ago, Rod said: The Catholics\romans actually put the bible together although they perverted it really bad and it wasn’t until Luther translated it that we got the context of what Jesus really said and meant I know, the writings I the Bible were something g along the lines of 600 years after jebus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sled_Hed Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 6 hours ago, SSFB said: I see Jesus when I ride my 850! Neal rides a Ski-Don't so he's never seen Jesus! Praying you'll make it home without a fire? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 8 hours ago, Rod said: The Catholics\romans actually put the bible together although they perverted it really bad and it wasn’t until Luther translated it that we got the context of what Jesus really said and meant The Bible is a collection of stories from a multitude of religions. It is not some book Jesus wrote or had even hardly any influence on. Many of the stories that include him as a character had nothing to do with his life but someone else. The history of the book is actually much more interesting than the contents. You are right about one thing though. The Catholics perverted the shit out of it. Of course Luther took some liberties as well, but regardless calling the Bible some historical record of Christianity is a misnomer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rod Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 4 hours ago, Deephaven said: The Bible is a collection of stories from a multitude of religions. It is not some book Jesus wrote or had even hardly any influence on. Many of the stories that include him as a character had nothing to do with his life but someone else. The history of the book is actually much more interesting than the contents. You are right about one thing though. The Catholics perverted the shit out of it. Of course Luther took some liberties as well, but regardless calling the Bible some historical record of Christianity is a misnomer. Literally nobody said that Jesus wrote the bible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 Jesus teachings were profound in the sense that religion shouldn’t be government he taught that you didn’t really need a church, and that people can be directly connected to God This was a wild idea because back then religion and government was the same thing. You couldn’t get salvation unless the church\state approved you and that’s how they controlled people. so Jesus basically was turning society on its head. So they had to kill him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted March 31 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 31 4 hours ago, Deephaven said: The Bible is a collection of stories from a multitude of religions. It is not some book Jesus wrote or had even hardly any influence on. Many of the stories that include him as a character had nothing to do with his life but someone else. The history of the book is actually much more interesting than the contents. You are right about one thing though. The Catholics perverted the shit out of it. Of course Luther took some liberties as well, but regardless calling the Bible some historical record of Christianity is a misnomer. What’s the basis for your Repug party wanting the book taught in school? Your Repug’s effort to bring ‘God’ back into the classroom? Being the good and faithful Repug that you are - you surely have an explanation …. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 9 minutes ago, Rod said: Literally nobody said that Jesus wrote the bible. We don’t know who wrote the gospels either. Christianity is full of unknowns and unprovables. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: We don’t know who wrote the gospels either. Christianity is full of unknowns and unprovables. Neal Well back then literacy was a very rare commodity that’s why the Catholics\romans got away with what they did for so long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 6 minutes ago, SnowRider said: What’s the basis for your Repug party wanting the book taught in school? Your Repug’s effort to bring ‘God’ back into the classroom? Being the good and faithful Repug that you are - you surely have an explanation …. You need Jesus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 54 minutes ago, Rod said: Literally nobody said that Jesus wrote the bible. Figuratively is exactly what you said. 13 hours ago, Rod said: The Catholics\romans actually put the bible together although they perverted it really bad and it wasn’t until Luther translated it that we got the context of what Jesus really said and meant Derp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 25 minutes ago, Deephaven said: Figuratively is exactly what you said. Derp A translation of a translation of an oral story to get what Jesus really said and meant… Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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