NaturallyAspirated Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, dz246 said: That’s horrible. Neal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 51 minutes ago, 1jkw said: It's all part of the plan! The opening act to the coming lockdowns. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 A good read from an expert? Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry 976 Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 3 hours ago, BOHICA said: Naming the new bridge should be a contentious debate. Doubt they want to name it the same as it was which was after a former slave owner This would have never happened if that ship was all electric and battery powered........... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 26 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 26 (edited) Bit surprised ships of this size didn't need mandatory tug escorts for this reason alone. How long before it hit the bridge did it lose power? Did it not have a chance to drop anchor? Edited March 26 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry 976 Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: Supposedly the port puts its own drivers in the boats for these trips. Likely Port will be paying which will have some sweet government funding to get it done. I doubt the port/river pilot is responsible for mechanical failures aboard any ship they are there to guide the ship to safely navigate the river up and down the water ways, mechanical failure wouldn't fall on the port Pilot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 26 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 26 Just now, Jerry 976 said: I doubt the port/river pilot is responsible for mechanical failures aboard any ship they are there to guide the ship to safely navigate the river up and down the water ways, mechanical failure wouldn't fall on the port Pilot It would if they had time to drop anchor and didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry 976 Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: Bit surprised ships of this size didn't need mandatory tug escorts for this reason alone. How long before it hit the bridge did it lose power? Did it not have a chance to drop anchor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 biden was at the helm, heard the girl scouts were selling cookies at the dock. he got too excited... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry 976 Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: It would if they had time to drop anchor and didn't. You cant drop the anchor if you have no power and the anchor may or may not stop a ship that size when in motion, that river bottom is more than likely a muddy mess and anchor is to hold you in place when stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted March 26 Gold Member Share Posted March 26 7 minutes ago, Jerry 976 said: I doubt the port/river pilot is responsible for mechanical failures aboard any ship they are there to guide the ship to safely navigate the river up and down the water ways, mechanical failure wouldn't fall on the port Pilot Fox News said they had 3 minutes from mayday call to collision. Doesn’t appear the crew in charge of the boat dropped anchor until the last minute according to report. Which makes sense as the last little bit the ship made a sharp turn by the videos…. Wonder if that sharp turn was the anchor pulling the nose of the ship around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry 976 Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, BOHICA said: Fox News said they had 3 minutes from mayday call to collision. Doesn’t appear the crew in charge of the boat dropped anchor until the last minute according to report. Which makes sense as the last little bit the ship made a sharp turn by the videos…. Wonder if that sharp turn was the anchor pulling the nose of the ship around. They briefly had power and if they went in full reverse it will cause the ship to kick sideways also.... so wait and see what the experts come up with in their investigation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 26 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 26 15 minutes ago, Highmark said: Bit surprised ships of this size didn't need mandatory tug escorts for this reason alone. How long before it hit the bridge did it lose power? Did it not have a chance to drop anchor? That surprised me also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, Jerry 976 said: They briefly had power and if they went in full reverse it will cause the ship to kick sideways also.... so wait and see what the experts come up with in their investigation the stack was pouring smoke like it was heavy throttle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry 976 Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, sleepybrew said: the stack was pouring smoke like it was heavy throttle Or there was a stack fire possibly from one of the diesel generators blowing up?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Huge concrete Columns were non-existent which may have prevented collapse, this bridge may have stood up to a Ship strike. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoan_Bridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted March 26 Gold Member Share Posted March 26 7 hours ago, Jerry 976 said: There should be a river/harbor pilot on board which kind of makes me think there was a mechanical failure and the ship lost its steering and auxiliary steering? There was a pilot on board. 7 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Looks like there were a couple instances of power failure on the ship. Neal There were two instances caught on video, perhaps more over all. Clearly they had electrical issues. 51 minutes ago, Highmark said: Bit surprised ships of this size didn't need mandatory tug escorts for this reason alone. How long before it hit the bridge did it lose power? Did it not have a chance to drop anchor? They had escort tugs but the tugs were released before this occured. As for the anchor usually the anchors are kept ready to deploy for just such an emergancy. It seems as though this happened so quickly that the anchor deployment was too late to be of any real benefit. I want to get more information on the anchor deployment, they may have been late on that or maybe they just didnt have time. Im not 100% positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted March 26 Gold Member Share Posted March 26 38 minutes ago, sleepybrew said: the stack was pouring smoke like it was heavy throttle 35 minutes ago, Jerry 976 said: Or there was a stack fire possibly from one of the diesel generators blowing up?? Either could be true although heavy throttle inpute would definitely be happening right about then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted March 26 Gold Member Share Posted March 26 For those of you interested in this, a guy on youtube, Sal Marcogliano runs a channel called "Whats Going On With Shipping". He does a great job breaking these incidents down. I havent had a chance to check yet but if he doesnt have a video up yet he will soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 26 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 26 The ship was cited in chile last September for propulsion issues. Weird it is only 9 years old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Kivalo said: For those of you interested in this, a guy on youtube, Sal Marcogliano runs a channel called "Whats Going On With Shipping". He does a great job breaking these incidents down. I havent had a chance to check yet but if he doesnt have a video up yet he will soon. I was wondering if the anchor deployment was a cause of the course change into the bridge support. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 I bet the new bridge will have the biggest dolphins you ever saw! Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Kivalo said: For those of you interested in this, a guy on youtube, Sal Marcogliano runs a channel called "Whats Going On With Shipping". He does a great job breaking these incidents down. I havent had a chance to check yet but if he doesnt have a video up yet he will soon. He’s got a video out. Neal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J. Jackson Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) So Joe says the feds, er taxpayers, will pay for the bridge. Whatta guy! How about we investigate first you dumb fucking pandering fuck head? Edited March 26 by J. Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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