Open your checkbooks.

[akvanden]

1 hour ago, SkisNH said:

You think allowing 6+ million illegals into the country shows respect and care for the taxpayer/citizen (US)

No, but wrong thread.

[racer254]

1 hour ago, SnowRider said:

I’ll join the rest of the Americans deployed to Ukraine 

Jimmy Manstrating  

No you won't, stop lying.

[akvanden]

https://x.com/gerashchenko_en/status/1705290312426377302?s=46&t=s83oq5htniYsJmIqhvBrlw

 

Crazy.

Edited September 24, 2023 by akvanden

[steve from amherst]

On 9/23/2023 at 9:26 AM, Highmark said:

 

Ukraine has run out of men to fight.   Time to tell Ukraine its over and they must go to the bargaining table.

 

Maybe they should go to Kiev and find the one's that are partying

[steve from amherst]

22 hours ago, Highmark said:

Corruption still runs rampant in Ukraine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/18/world/europe/zelensky-ukraine-defense-shakeup.html

Zelensky Cleans House in Corruption-Plagued Defense Ministry 

But how, $200 million of the last package was to fight corruption . 

Yes , you read that right. We paid them $200 million so they dont steal the money we give them.  Hard to beleive , isnt it?

[Skidooski]

16 minutes ago, steve from amherst said:

But how, $200 million of the last package was to fight corruption . 

Yes , you read that right. We paid them $200 million so they dont steal the money we give them.  Hard to beleive , isnt it?

Pure Idiocracy   SMH 

[DriftBusta]

1 hour ago, Skidooski said:

Pure Idiocracy   SMH 

Imagine?  These people must laugh their asses off in closed door meetings when they work up these bills.

[Rod]

20 hours ago, Not greg b said:

Just saw a random stat. The rate the Ukrainians are retaking land back, it will take them about 100 years to get back to where they started in 2022. 

They aren’t even really taking any land back. They’re advancing and getting slaughtered in the crumple zone. Not sure they’ve even reached the first line of defence 

the Russians dug in hard, and Ukrainians are getting slaughtered trying to breech it at the behest of Biden. 400-500 thousand dead Ukrainians so far plus however many are wounded 

Russians are playing a war of attrition, which Ukraine simply can’t win. Funding the continuation of this war is just Sending more Ukrainians to die, and some here applaud that 

zelensky is now demanding that other countries round up and deport Ukrainian men back to Ukraine so he can throw them into the meat grinder too. 

[Voodoo]

On 9/23/2023 at 1:43 PM, Kivalo said:

Where is this money coming from again? We certainly didn't have it in our rainy day fund.

If only government had that rainy day fund.

Like no debt, a few bucks in the bank when the engine went out of the truck.

Not so deep in debt you are many  new truck buys away from being even.

 

[Voodoo]

1 hour ago, ACE said:

They aren’t even really taking any land back. They’re advancing and getting slaughtered in the crumple zone. Not sure they’ve even reached the first line of defence 

the Russians dug in hard, and Ukrainians are getting slaughtered trying to breech it at the behest of Biden. 400-500 thousand dead Ukrainians so far plus however many are wounded 

Russians are playing a war of attrition, which Ukraine simply can’t win. Funding the continuation of this war is just Sending more Ukrainians to die, and some here applaud that 

zelensky is now demanding that other countries round up and deport Ukrainian men back to Ukraine so he can throw them into the meat grinder too. 

If only Ukraine had the nukes they gave up. The ones we told them they could give up and they’d  be fine.

Primary reason the Dope ain’t getting my AR.

Learn lessons from history, we do not.

Couple small nuke deliveries and this would end.

 

Edited September 24, 2023 by Voodoo

[Rod]

22 minutes ago, Voodoo said:

If only Ukraine had the nukes they gave up. The ones we told them they could give up and they’d  be fine.

Primary reason the Dope ain’t getting my AR.

Learn lessons from history, we do not.

Couple small nuke deliveries and this would end.

 

Doesn’t Russia have the most nukes in the world?

 

[Voodoo]

1 hour ago, ACE said:

Doesn’t Russia have the most nukes in the world?

 

Believe they do…but when you can nuke the world 10 times over, totals don’t really matter.

1 is all it takes.

Ask Isreal, North Korea, Iran.

[Cat45]

On 9/23/2023 at 2:43 PM, Jimmy Snacks said:

Of course he’s OK with it and the fact remains that he could volunteer to fight for Ukraine but he won’t….nothing but a chickenhawk shitbag predator.

I offered to arm they/them with a scary black weapon of war  and pay for it's plane ticket but they/them didn't seem interested 

[Highmark]

On 9/23/2023 at 11:12 AM, akvanden said:

For perspective, US GDP is 80% larger than all of Europes, and I’m sure military is similar if not even more.

 

I couldn’t find any stats on them not giving two fucks about us though. 

Europe's GDP is 80% of ours we are not 80% larger.    European union is over $16 trillion and GB is over $3 trillion.  US is around $23.3.  80% larger.....

The fact that most of Europe (NATO) falls fall short of their defense spending requirements is enough proof that they could give two fucks about us.   They use us.   Sorry but that's not what Allies are supposed to do and sorry that you are too blind to see it.  It would be much worse if Trump hadn't called them out as well and threatened the US getting out of NATO....which we should. 

 

Edited September 25, 2023 by Highmark

[Highmark]

On 9/23/2023 at 3:01 PM, Not greg b said:

Just saw a random stat. The rate the Ukrainians are retaking land back, it will take them about 100 years to get back to where they started in 2022. 

Another perpetual war for the US.

[akvanden]

31 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Europe's GDP is 80% of ours we are not 80% larger.    European union is over $16 trillion and GB is over $3 trillion.  US is around $23.3.  80% larger.....

The fact that most of Europe (NATO) falls fall short of their defense spending requirements is enough proof that they could give two fucks about us.   They use us.   Sorry but that's not what Allies are supposed to do and sorry that you are too blind to see it.  It would be much worse if Trump hadn't called them out as well and threatened the US getting out of NATO....which we should. 

 

My bad giggles. 50% bigger than the EU. Want to toss in the UK? Still bigger. The "perspective" doesn't change. 

And of course they use us, as we use them. Think all that money and protection doesn't buy leverage? So maybe the not giving two fucks is mutual. 

[Voodoo]

42 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Europe's GDP is 80% of ours we are not 80% larger.    European union is over $16 trillion and GB is over $3 trillion.  US is around $23.3.  80% larger.....

The fact that most of Europe (NATO) falls fall short of their defense spending requirements is enough proof that they could give two fucks about us.   They use us.   Sorry but that's not what Allies are supposed to do and sorry that you are too blind to see it.  It would be much worse if Trump hadn't called them out as well and threatened the US getting out of NATO....which we should. 

 

I think Canada could cut a whole bunch of money in various departments and up spending on defense.

15 Billion from Indian affairs be a fine start.

[Highmark]

23 minutes ago, akvanden said:

My bad giggles. 50% bigger than the EU. Want to toss in the UK? Still bigger. The "perspective" doesn't change. 

And of course they use us, as we use them. Think all that money and protection doesn't buy leverage? So maybe the not giving two fucks is mutual. 

You did say "all of Europes."      Buy leverage......that's priceless. 

Edited September 25, 2023 by Highmark

[akvanden]

31 minutes ago, Highmark said:

You did say "all of Europes."      Buy leverage......that's priceless. 

I did (and already said my bad), but stop it, giggles. You're wrecking my parade. 80%, 50%, Europe, EU - you're ruining the point of the US being larger than all of Europe combined. Don't bring it up again or it won't be true anymore. 



And it's not priceless, it's actually quite expensive. 

[Not greg b]

On 9/24/2023 at 12:31 PM, ACE said:

They aren’t even really taking any land back. They’re advancing and getting slaughtered in the crumple zone. Not sure they’ve even reached the first line of defence 

the Russians dug in hard, and Ukrainians are getting slaughtered trying to breech it at the behest of Biden. 400-500 thousand dead Ukrainians so far plus however many are wounded 

Russians are playing a war of attrition, which Ukraine simply can’t win. Funding the continuation of this war is just Sending more Ukrainians to die, and some here applaud that 

zelensky is now demanding that other countries round up and deport Ukrainian men back to Ukraine so he can throw them into the meat grinder too. 

Pretty much. They are going to run out of people before Russia runs out of shit to shoot at them. Russia is doing what they have always done in war.