spin_dry Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 https://ktla.com/news/local-news/california-power-companies-roll-out-fixed-rate-bill-proposal/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Just now, spin_dry said: https://ktla.com/news/local-news/california-power-companies-roll-out-fixed-rate-bill-proposal/ My vaccine generates its own electricity and 5G! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 California Leaving continues. First time tent buyers. What a shithole. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 16, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) That is one way to help the poor to not be affected by rising electric rates…. People have been concerned here about poor affording energy. This kind of solves that so I imagine many are supportive of this here???? Edited April 16, 2023 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, BOHICA said: That is one way to help the poor to not be affected by rising electric rates…. People have been concerned here about poor affording energy. This kind of solves that so I imagine many are supportive of this here???? Why stop there. God your a fucking moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 16, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted April 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Why stop there. God your a fucking moron. You good with the poor having cheap energy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, BOHICA said: You good with the poor having cheap energy? Why stop there, make it on everything. Fucking retard doesn't know when he's being played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 16, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Why stop there, make it on everything. Fucking retard doesn't know when he's being played. People are concerned about poor and middle class energy costs on freedomsledder. Been said many times. Like rich aren’t paying their fairshare of grid maintenance and stuff if they make their own energy and the tax credits the rich get is stealing from the poor and middle class. Figured this policy would make many happy here? As the poor and middle class have the cheapest energy compared to the rich who get to pay more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Not to be outdone by Cali, I'm sure Taxin Tyrant Timmy and his Dream Team will find a way to one up them sooner rather then later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Just now, racinfarmer said: Not to be outdone by Cali, I'm sure Taxin Tyrant Timmy and his Dream Team will find a way to one up them sooner rather then later. Absolutely .... probably already in the works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted April 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 17, 2023 Riding electric rates you say. How they gonna charge their cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 17, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted April 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Riding electric rates you say. How they gonna charge their cars Kwh rate is going down by a third…. 😂 going to be cheaper to charge an electric car than it was…. Fixed rate is going up, especially on those that can afford it…. That rate is the same wether you have an EV or not and only based on income. Then the per kWh rate is going down by a third from what it is now…. The plan would break monthly bills in two parts: The fixed-income rate, plus a reduced usage charge based on consumption. Under the proposal, it would cost as little as $15 a month for low-income households and up to $85 more per month for households making more than $180,000 a year. While that specific cost would go up, the actual electricity rate would go down by a third. It means customers could control their bill somewhat - if they're able to reduce electricity use. The income-based bill proposal is part of the companies' compliance with legislation passed by the California state government last year requiring these types of plans for utilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Kwh rate is going down by a third…. 😂 going to be cheaper to charge an electric car than it was…. Fixed rate is going up, especially on those that can afford it…. That rate is the same wether you have an EV or not and only based on income. Then the per kWh rate is going down by a third from what it is now…. The plan would break monthly bills in two parts: The fixed-income rate, plus a reduced usage charge based on consumption. Under the proposal, it would cost as little as $15 a month for low-income households and up to $85 more per month for households making more than $180,000 a year. While that specific cost would go up, the actual electricity rate would go down by a third. It means customers could control their bill somewhat - if they're able to reduce electricity use. The income-based bill proposal is part of the companies' compliance with legislation passed by the California state government last year requiring these types of plans for utilities. More green social engineering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 17, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said: More green social engineering Poor and middle class get to pay less for their energy they use? Is this a bad thing to you or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Just now, BOHICA said: Poor and middle class get to pay less for their energy they use? Is this a bad thing to you or something? How about everyone pay the same and the government stops Pushing an agenda, not to mention vote buying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 17, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted April 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said: How about everyone pay the same and the government stops Pushing an agenda, not to mention vote buying Would you feel the same on income taxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Would you feel the same on income taxes? Yes, the 47%ers should pay something instead of whining about the actual taxpayers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 17, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said: Yes, the 47%ers should pay something instead of whining about the actual taxpayers. But should the rich pay the same amount as the 47%ers, what ever that maybe? how do you feel about tax credits and deductions that the rich get currently to lessen their income tax burden and get it closer to what the 47% pay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, BOHICA said: But should the rich pay the same amount as the 47%ers, what ever that maybe? how do you feel about tax credits and deductions that the rich get currently to lessen their income tax burden and get it closer to what the 47% pay? LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted April 17, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted April 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said: LOL! I know!!!! Some people criticize and get pissed at others tax credits and situations that allow them to pay less. I think everything should be a use tax or sales tax. Income shouldn’t be taxed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Jackson Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 In Vt there is already an energy "tax" that's used to help the lower incomes. Gives many residents free up grades in lighting fixtures, better insulation and heating systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 10 hours ago, BOHICA said: I know!!!! Some people criticize and get pissed at others tax credits and situations that allow them to pay less. I think everything should be a use tax or sales tax. Income shouldn’t be taxed No legislative body is going to vote for a simplified tax system as it would take away a major source of campaign revenue. You have a better chance of getting through term limits or a bill that holds legislators to the same rules as everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Of all the states I traveled to working on electrical generation none were as screwed up as California. They will have a third world electrical grid in ten years where you might get power 4 or 5 days a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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