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Let's face it both sides are losing in that war and the only reason the war mongers here in the US want to act as if Ukraine somehow has an advantage is to push for more spending/weapons so Ukraine can "finally" prevail which is an absolutely absurd assumption.  Russia has 4 times the military age men as Ukraine and see's this absolute to their survival just as much as Ukraine does.    

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27 minutes ago, EvilBird said:

Mainecuck wants Young American's to die for Ukraine next . 

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Hey...give him a break, he bought a flag for his part. Almost as hard as sending your sons to die. 

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2 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Why do people keep interviewing him. He’s been continually wrong in his predictions.

Probably for the same reason Fauci is still allowed to speak 

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3 hours ago, akvanden said:

True. The thread title/content to back it up is rather snowrider-esq. 

You think Ukraine is winning because that is what most of the MSM is telling us?   We only ever hear of Russian losses.   The NPR article he mentions in the video and in my other post is the only left leaning site that I've seen give some indication that Ukraine is struggling.  

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2 minutes ago, Highmark said:

You think Ukraine is winning because that is what most of the MSM is telling us?   We only ever hear of Russian loses.   The NPR article he mentions in the video and in my other post is the only left leaning site that I've seen give some indication that Ukraine is struggling.  

No, they’re definitely not ‘winning’, but they’re making it extremely costly for Russia which is the wests goal. And no doubt, very costly for Ukraine too.

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Just now, akvanden said:

No, they’re definitely not ‘winning’, but they’re making it extremely costly for Russia which is the wests goal. And no doubt, very costly for Ukraine too.

And exceptionally costly for the average American citizen ….. again 

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1 hour ago, Highmark said:

Let's face it both sides are losing in that war and the only reason the war mongers here in the US want to act as if Ukraine somehow has an advantage is to push for more spending/weapons so Ukraine can "finally" prevail which is an absolutely absurd assumption.  Russia has 4 times the military age men as Ukraine and see's this absolute to their survival just as much as Ukraine does.    

Russia only has 4x the personnel?  Holy shit, that’s bad news for them…  The ratios for kills seem to be more than 4:1 from what I have read.

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2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

Russia only has 4x the personnel?  Holy shit, that’s bad news for them…  The ratios for kills seem to be more than 4:1 from what I have read.

Neal

Believe nothing of what you hear, And only half of what you see

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6 minutes ago, toslow said:

Believe nothing of what you hear, And only half of what you see

This.  All I know is both sides have already had a devastating loss of life, like over 100,000 in each side.  And we should stay out of it unless Putin is foolish enough to attack a nato ally.  

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50 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

Russia only has 4x the personnel?  Holy shit, that’s bad news for them…  The ratios for kills seem to be more than 4:1 from what I have read.

Neal

That's the entire point.   Who knows what to believe at this point.   The NPR article lists the casualties as pretty equal and Russia losses are mainly convicts.  NPR source is the Pentagon.  

 

 

 

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46 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

He’s a Trump guy. Trumps plan to end the war is to give Putin Ukraine.

So yeah commie propaganda. He contributes to Russia state media.

Do your homework.

Just stop.  You’re delusional.

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1 hour ago, Highmark said:

That's the entire point.   Who knows what to believe at this point.   The NPR article lists the casualties as pretty equal and Russia losses are mainly convicts.  NPR source is the Pentagon.  

 

 

 

If the Russians strategy of over whelming man power was working they would be in Kyiv not Bakmut.  Ukraine has been very shrewd with their military and the Russians have not.  In 2014 when the Russians took over Crimea the Ukraine military was unable to push back on the Russians at all but now they have the Russians pinned down in places with little or no strategic value. The Ukrainians have taken the Job of reorganizing their military from the Soviet model to the Western model very seriously and it is almost as important as the weapons they have received to their current success.  The Russians are spending money to Refurbish T52 tanks from 50 years ago as their numbers of Tanks in operation dwindles. Does this sound like a winning position?  

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9 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said:

If the Russians strategy of over whelming man power was working they would be in Kyiv not Bakmut.  Ukraine has been very shrewd with their military and the Russians have not.  In 2014 when the Russians took over Crimea the Ukraine military was unable to push back on the Russians at all but now they have the Russians pinned down in places with little or no strategic value. The Ukrainians have taken the Job of reorganizing their military from the Soviet model to the Western model very seriously and it is almost as important as the weapons they have received to their current success.  The Russians are spending money to Refurbish T52 tanks from 50 years ago as their numbers of Tanks in operation dwindles. Does this sound like a winning position?  

So where did you cut and past that from?  :lmao:

Not saying what you posted doesn't have some truth but the fact remains those on the side of Ukraine will not release the whole story.  Both sides have suffered horribly but Russian territory has little to no damage yet significant parts of Ukraine is rubble.   Even if the so called lines are stable and casualties relatively equal Ukraine is LOSING badly based off damage to their country alone.  We will continue to lose because even if Russia withdraws we will help rebuild with money we don't have.  Hasn't the last year or two of inflation been enough for people to understand we can't afford to be giving them $100's of billions of aid and weapons.   China is a threat to us....Russia is not.  We have our focus pointed in the wrong direction.   It should be west and to our southern border where drugs coming across are killing 100K American's a year.   How many have died in Ukraine again?  Its fucking sickening we are more concerned about what is going on in Europe instead of our own people....Europe fucked the world twice in the last century....that's enough let them destroy themselves.  Fuck em. 

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