teamgreen02 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 https://www.reuters.com/world/us-may-drop-opposition-sending-abrams-tanks-ukraine-officials-2023-01-24/ Quote WASHINGTON, Jan 24 (Reuters) - The United States, in a reversal, appears to be dropping its opposition to sending M1 Abrams battle tanks to Ukraine and an announcement could come as soon as this week, two U.S. officials told Reuters on Tuesday. The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said they were not aware of a final U.S. decision to send the Abrams to Ukraine, a move that could encourage Germany to follow. The Pentagon could not be immediately reached for comment. article-prompt-devices Register for free to Reuters and know the full story Such a decision by the United States would come just days after Washington argued against sending the Abrams, despite demands from Kyiv and public pressure from Berlin as it faced calls to send German-made Leopard battle tanks. Ukraine says heavily armored Western battle tanks would give its troops more mobility and protection ahead of a new Russian offensive that Kyiv expects in the near future. They could also help Ukraine retake some of the territory that has fallen to Russia. Latest Updates Ukraine purges officials and governors in biggest shake-up of war Exclusive: WHO investigating links between cough syrup deaths, considers advice for parents Lebanon's Bitar wages uphill struggle for justice over port blast Analysis: Failure to communicate? Scholz thinking on tanks for Ukraine perplexes many Germans Bulgaria to hold early elections on April 2-president U.S. officials had said that the Abrams was tough to maintain, hard to train Ukrainians to operate, and ran on jet fuel -- making it a poor choice for this phase of the war. The disclosure about the softening U.S. position came the same day that Poland said it had submitted a formal request asking Germany to allow the re-export of its Leopard battle tanks to Ukraine. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz's Social Democrat party has been holding back, wary of moves that could cause Moscow to escalate further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 24, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 24, 2023 JFC enough is enough.🤬 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 It requires jet fuel to run. How do they plan to operationalize that in the battlefield….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamgreen02 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, akvanden said: It requires jet fuel to run. How do they plan to operationalize that in the battlefield….. Supposed to be able to run them on any fuel, jet fuel, diesel, gasoline, etc. Not sure how well they run on those other fuels though. Needs jet fuel and lots of it, 3 gallons per mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, akvanden said: It requires jet fuel to run. How do they plan to operationalize that in the battlefield….. It’s not just the jet fuel. The things are a maintenance nightmare and require a heavy supply line. The Germans have way better tanks for that environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 All of this equipment requires extensive training to operate and maintain. Who do you suppose is going to be using it? On the other side, part of the reluctance to send these state of the art weapons is Russia ending up with them. Although the jet fuel tanks may not be ideal there anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 4 hours ago, teamgreen02 said: Supposed to be able to run them on any fuel, jet fuel, diesel, gasoline, etc. Not sure how well they run on those other fuels though. Needs jet fuel and lots of it, 3 gallons per mile. Running them on gasoline really shortens their life, not sure about diesel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted January 24, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 24, 2023 Just send them anything they want and then bill them. They can then pay us back with the money we gave them. Win win for everyone except the taxpayers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 25 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Just send them anything they want and then bill them. They can then pay us back with the money we gave them. Win win for everyone except the taxpayers Ukraine is basically the 51st state now. Except they generate no income. That will come later when the westies take control of the oil and gas there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 24, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, Anler said: Ukraine is basically the 51st state now. Except they generate no income. That will come later when the westies take control of the oil and gas there. 52nd. You forgot Puerto Rico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I'm all for shipping the Abrams tank to the front line. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 2 hours ago, steve from amherst said: 52nd. You forgot Puerto Rico When has Puerto Rico received $100 billion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 25, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted January 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Anler said: When has Puerto Rico received $100 billion? After each annual hurricane hits the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, BOHICA said: After each annual hurricane hits the place. Fuck I doubt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 25, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Anler said: When has Puerto Rico received $100 billion? Every 3 yrs . Or about 35 billion per yr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 As long as a lot of people die and the Biden’s keep lining their pockets the neolibs will applaud it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Ukraine ftw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 7 hours ago, ACE said: As long as a lot of people die and the Biden’s keep lining their pockets the neolibs will applaud it Black rock and Goldman Sachs have been talking about the enormous potential for profits in Ukraine. Just need to get all of those Ukrainians out of the way first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Anler said: Black rock and Goldman Sachs have been talking about the enormous potential for profits in Ukraine. Just need to get all of those Ukrainians out of the way first! I’m all in for American companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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