Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 4, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted January 4, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Faggotmobile That's all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted January 4, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted January 4, 2023 If I had solar panels I’d buy it for a commuter seems like a good deal 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/tesla-fined-2-2m-exaggerating-driving-range-vehicles-report I await the apologists response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted January 4, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted January 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, SkisNH said: https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/tesla-fined-2-2m-exaggerating-driving-range-vehicles-report I await the apologists response. Welcome to the club Tesla every manufacturer has been sued for bs mpg ratings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 9 hours ago, 800renegaderider said: Welcome to the club Tesla every manufacturer has been sued for bs mpg ratings. Yes...but this is specific to our conversations on cold weather. The local apologist have been blaming the user for not conditioning the battery...seems too wide spread for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 10 hours ago, SkisNH said: https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/tesla-fined-2-2m-exaggerating-driving-range-vehicles-report I await the apologists response. But Tesla leads the market in battery tech. Also, no issues with the raw materials that they are using, how the build the batteries or how the next generation of batteries is pretty much on hold because of, you guessed it, never fucking ending supply chain issues. Solar and wind farms for everyone!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostynuts Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, SkisNH said: Yes...but this is specific to our conversations on cold weather. The local apologist have been blaming the user for not conditioning the battery...seems too wide spread for that. Why is this conditioning batteries bullshit excuse not switched on automatically, so dummies cann,t mess it up ??????? Edited January 4, 2023 by Frostynuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 4, 2023 Author Gold Member Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Frostynuts said: Why is this conditioning batteries bullshit excuse not switched on automatically, so dummies cann,t mess it up ??????? It does if you use the cars navigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 look at gm's history with evs before you buy anything they are selling. the bolt has become a joke, well was already a joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 If someone gave me an EV car for free I'd sell it and buy a real auto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 that very car has a recall on the main battery for fires, and the seat belt for fires as well Product Safety Recall (N222383790): Seatbelt Pretensioner Fire (Release Date 12/15/2022) View Details Product Safety Recall (N212345943): High Voltage Battery May Melt or Burn (New/Unsold Dealer Inventory Only) (Release Date 3/9/2022) View Details OnStar Offer: Vehicle qualifies for a free OnStar trial. Enroll customer and inform them to press their blue button to activate their trial. Enroll Customer Owner Center: Insufficient customer information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 4, 2023 Author Gold Member Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, sleepybrew said: that very car has a recall on the main battery for fires, and the seat belt for fires as well Product Safety Recall (N222383790): Seatbelt Pretensioner Fire (Release Date 12/15/2022) View Details Product Safety Recall (N212345943): High Voltage Battery May Melt or Burn (New/Unsold Dealer Inventory Only) (Release Date 3/9/2022) View Details OnStar Offer: Vehicle qualifies for a free OnStar trial. Enroll customer and inform them to press their blue button to activate their trial. Enroll Customer Owner Center: Insufficient customer information Had or has??? Didn’t think dealers were allowed to sell vehicles with active and unresolved recalls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted January 4, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, sleepybrew said: that very car has a recall on the main battery for fires, and the seat belt for fires as well Product Safety Recall (N222383790): Seatbelt Pretensioner Fire (Release Date 12/15/2022) View Details Product Safety Recall (N212345943): High Voltage Battery May Melt or Burn (New/Unsold Dealer Inventory Only) (Release Date 3/9/2022) View Details OnStar Offer: Vehicle qualifies for a free OnStar trial. Enroll customer and inform them to press their blue button to activate their trial. Enroll Customer Owner Center: Insufficient customer information I thought it said in the video it had all the recalls done that’s why it was so old but new cause they waited forever to get it fixed so they got the 5k less 23 pricing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 32 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Had or has??? Didn’t think dealers were allowed to sell vehicles with active and unresolved recalls. The nissan titan has an unresolved shift fork issue....my buddy just bought a used one from the Nissan dealer. They have no fix yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 That car has no history. Looks to be unsold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 4, 2023 Author Gold Member Share Posted January 4, 2023 32 minutes ago, sleepybrew said: That car has no history. Looks to be unsold TFL said they bought it and the recalls had been performed. I don’t believe dealers if they are being legit can sell a recalled vehicle. Seems like the manufacturer/dealer would be taking on a liability that would get pretty expensive for them. a buddy went to trade in his Ram ecodiesel and the Ram dealer wouldn’t accept it other then offering an extremely low price on trade cause they couldn’t sell it cause they can’t get parts for it on some recall. Said they would have to sit on it until they could get the recalled parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 4, 2023 Author Gold Member Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) Appears to be illegal for dealers to sell recalled cars…. New is cut and dry, and it appears a used car if sold the dealer always loses in a lawsuit if they sell you a recalled car. https://carconsumers.org/blog/2019/03/04/it-is-against-the-law-for-car-dealers-to-sell-used-cars-with-unrepaired-safety-recalls/ Edited January 4, 2023 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, BOHICA said: TFL said they bought it and the recalls had been performed. I don’t believe dealers if they are being legit can sell a recalled vehicle. Seems like the manufacturer/dealer would be taking on a liability that would get pretty expensive for them. a buddy went to trade in his Ram ecodiesel and the Ram dealer wouldn’t accept it other then offering an extremely low price on trade cause they couldn’t sell it cause they can’t get parts for it on some recall. Said they would have to sit on it until they could get the recalled parts. Eco diesel was also a steaming pile of shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwhite138 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Bolt issue is fixed I think. Supplier swapped a component in the bat to lower quality part. I think it was LG. Dosent lg supply tesla? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 5, 2023 Author Gold Member Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cwhite138 said: Bolt issue is fixed I think. Supplier swapped a component in the bat to lower quality part. I think it was LG. Dosent lg supply tesla? Tesla is Panasonic mainly but a little of LG here and there. Tesla also has their own battery production plant for its new battery cells that are in the model Y, Tesla semi, and upcoming cyber truck…. The 4680 cell. I think Giga Texas will have its own Tesla made battery cells. Elon wants raw materials coming in one side of the plant and vehicles spit out the other side and it’s how they are building their factories to work. manufactures that use cylindrical cells are typically the start ups… Tesla, Lucid, Rivian…. Standard range teslas and the station battery mega packs have the prismatic cells….. most Chinese EV’s use prismatic cells. They are typically LFP and colbalt free so no Congo miners needed. BMW use prismatic as well but they are switch to Teslas 4680 cylindrical. Almost everybody else like GM use pouch cells….. Ford, vw, kia, Hyundai… But VW group is switch to prismatic. here is an article on Teslas battery cells they use. https://insideevs.com/news/587455/batteries-tesla-using-electric-cars/ Edited January 5, 2023 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 How will.they produce electricity for these ev's when Hoover dam shuts down ?; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 20 hours ago, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: But Tesla leads the market in battery tech. Also, no issues with the raw materials that they are using, how the build the batteries or how the next generation of batteries is pretty much on hold because of, you guessed it, never fucking ending supply chain issues. Solar and wind farms for everyone!!! They do but they don’t. Gm has fucked around with evs for a long time but never really did anything with it. Now that they are going full bore with every other big auto manufacturers I think Tesla will get smoked going forward. Tesla does not have the manufacturing capacity the major auto manufacturers do. That will be their down fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Not greg b said: They do but they don’t. Gm has fucked around with evs for a long time but never really did anything with it. Now that they are going full bore with every other big auto manufacturers I think Tesla will get smoked going forward. Tesla does not have the manufacturing capacity the major auto manufacturers do. That will be their down fall. Yes on the manufacturing ability. No on supplies. 2023 is going to be a VERY telling year. I don’t think you’re going to see the large continued all EV push from manufacturers other than Tesla. The reality of the supply chain issues that still seem to be fucking the auto industry are going to have to be dealt with. Edited January 5, 2023 by SayatodaU.P.eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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