Swedish seismologists detected explosions in the area close to Nord Stream pipelines

[spin_dry]

Hmm…someone blew it up. 
 

The Swedish National Seismic Network (SNSN) said Tuesday that it detected two explosions on Monday near the area of the Nord Stream pipelines.

The first explosion was recorded at 2:03 a.m. local time in the early hours of Monday and the second one 17 hours later, at 7:04 p.m. on Monday evening, according to SNSN.

SNSN said that one of the underwater explosions resulted in a tremor of 2.3 magnitude.

According to SNSN, the last time a similar seismological event was registered in the area was in 2016. It added that this area is not usually used for defense exercises. 

The German geological research centre, GFZ, told CNN that two tremors were registered at similar times at a seismic station on the Danish island of Bornholm, again close to the reported leaks on the pipelines.

 

A reading from a seismograph on the Danish island of Bornholm shows two spikes, at 0003 and 1700 GMT, followed by a lower-level "hissing" on the day when the Nord Stream 1 and 2 Baltic gas pipelines sprang leaks one after the other in this image released on September 27. (German Centre for Georesearch/Reuters)

 

 

Josef Zens, spokesperson for GFZ, told CNN that the first tremor was recorded at 2:03 a.m. local time and a second was recorded 17 hours later.

Zens said that “it could not be said if there was any connection between the tremors and the leaks registered on the Nord Stream pipelines on Tuesday.”

The Swedish National Seismic Network said that warnings about the gas leaks came from the maritime administration at 1:52 p.m. and 8:41 p.m. on Monday, respectively, after ships detected bubbles on the surface.

Earlier on Tuesday, the Swedish Maritime Authority told CNN that three leaks have been identified in pipelines for Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 near Bornholm, warning vessels to maintain a distance of 5 miles (8 kilometers) from the leaks and issuing a warning for aircraft, with a safety altitude of 1,000 meters.

The Danish Defense Command said in a statement Tuesday that “following the three gas leaks on the Nord Stream gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea, prohibition zones have been established around the leaks for the sake of the safety of ship and air traffic.”

Nord Stream AG, the operator of the pipelines, in safety documents published before any news emerged of three separate pipeline leaks in one day, had said that the probability of a pipeline failure or leakage is “as low as one damage event every 100,000 years”.

The operator also said that pipeline repairs were “not expected to be necessary during Nord Stream’s minimum operational lifespan of 50 years.”

Nord Stream 1 became operational in 2012, and Nord Stream 2 was completed in 2021, but never became operational.

 

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/27/whether-or-not-russia-was-behind-the-nord-stream-blasts-little-was-at-stake

[Rod]

Don’t see the big deal. I’m sure solar panels will save them 

[ford_428cj]

USA blew it up. 

 

[ford_428cj]

What will Russia do as a response?

[DriftBusta]

6 minutes ago, ford_428cj said:

What will Russia do as a response?

Maybe set off a tactical nuke in Ukraine as payback, then Biden "rallies" the country and tells us that he's sending our military to war..........to protect democracy from Russia and the MAGA semi fascists.  Nothing would surprise me anymore.   

Edited September 28, 2022 by DriftBusta

[Ez ryder]

These things are not just pipes a few feet under a lake .  Multiple leaks at some pretty deep needs more than a wetsuit and a pipe cutter . We are talking deep water subs with robotic capability.  Only a few players really capable 

[ford_428cj]

10 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Maybe set off a tactical nuke in Ukraine as payback, then Biden "rallies" the country and tells us that he's sending our military to war..........to protect democracy from Russia and the MAGA semi fascists.  Nothing would surprise me anymore.   

Wiil they sabotage our stuff now?

Congress is going to push another Ukraine deal for 67 billion.

[ford_428cj]

7 minutes ago, Ez ryder said:

These things are not just pipes a few feet under a lake .  Multiple leaks at some pretty deep needs more than a wetsuit and a pipe cutter . We are talking deep water subs with robotic capability.  Only a few players really capable 

Senile pedo is getting us directly involved ...

[DriftBusta]

40 minutes ago, ford_428cj said:

Wiil they sabotage our stuff now?

Congress is going to push another Ukraine deal for 67 billion.

Anyone votes to send more $$ to Ukraine should be voted out.

[akvanden]

It’s crazy how party lines can all of the sudden be turned into anti Americanism. Good job guys. Yup, we’re the bad guys, just because of Biden. He’s essentially a king that can do wherever he wants, unchecked.

The line wasn’t pushing gas to Germany since the beginning of September, per Russian Gasprom. and lo and behold, still isn’t.
 

 

[Anler]

Oh look

[Anler]

 

[Jimmy Snacks]

 

[DriftBusta]

8 hours ago, akvanden said:

It’s crazy how party lines can all of the sudden be turned into anti Americanism. Good job guys. Yup, we’re the bad guys, just because of Biden. He’s essentially a king that can do wherever he wants, unchecked.

The line wasn’t pushing gas to Germany since the beginning of September, per Russian Gasprom. and lo and behold, still isn’t.
 

 

Tell us who you think did it and why please.  Party lines are visible because half the country doesn't seem to be able to comprehend what is at stake here.  Dumb as fuck comes to mind.

[akvanden]

1 hour ago, DriftBusta said:

Tell us who you think did it and why please.  Party lines are visible because half the country doesn't seem to be able to comprehend what is at stake here.  Dumb as fuck comes to mind.

If we’re able to definitively prove who did it, who would have the most to lose? Russia, who’s already turned NS1 off? Or the US, at the risk of severely damaging its relationships with its European allies (with no motive present), and risking the unification of allied military support against Russia?!? 
 

You know exactly how this will play out - Russia: “we want to help our European friends by turning NS1 back on but now we can’t because someone damaged it.” See, now they’re not the bad guys who simply turned it off - and people will eat it up.

Edited September 28, 2022 by akvanden

[Rod]

The US and nato are the bad guys here 

[Highmark]

2 hours ago, akvanden said:

If we’re able to definitively prove who did it, who would have the most to lose? Russia, who’s already turned NS1 off? Or the US, at the risk of severely damaging its relationships with its European allies (with no motive present), and risking the unification of allied military support against Russia?!? 
 

You know exactly how this will play out - Russia: “we want to help our European friends by turning NS1 back on but now we can’t because someone damaged it.” See, now they’re not the bad guys who simply turned it off - and people will eat it up.

Well the admin said that they laid out clearly to Russia on the direct line what would happen if they used Nukes in Ukraine.  Biden and other admin officials have hinted at such an action.   You cannot deny that. 

Is this a pre warning from the US or NATO?  Why would Russia damage the pipeline when all they have to do is shut it off?

Honestly there is no clear evidence yet on who did it but I don't see Russia having ANY incentive to damage it while other countries may....and that doesn't mean NATO.  Who would benefit the most from Europe not getting NG from these pipelines?  US?  China possibly? 

Let's hope something naturally occurred because if not going after someone's pipeline is definitely and act of war.  

Better find out who did it because it could get ugly in a hurry. 

Edited September 28, 2022 by Highmark

[akvanden]

16 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Biden and other admin officials have hinted at such an action.   You cannot deny that

Spoken directly to Russia about their nuclear rhetoric - yes. Hinted at destroying European energy infrastructure - no

 

16 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Why would Russia damage the pipeline when all they have to do is shut it off?

They did shut it off, at the beginning of Sept. In that scenario, the finger can be directly pointed at Russia. Now, gas is still shutoff, but Russia can point the finger at someone else. Either way, the gas is still not flowing, which is what Russia wants.

 

16 minutes ago, Highmark said:

while other countries may

What would be the incentive?

 

 

Agree though - need to figure out ASAP.

 

 

Edited September 28, 2022 by akvanden

[Highmark]

9 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Spoken directly to Russia about their nuclear rhetoric - yes. Hinted at destroying European energy infrastructure - no

 

They did shut it off, at the beginning of Sept. In that scenario, the finger can be directly pointed at Russia. Now, gas is still shutoff, but Russia can point the finger at someone else. Either way, the gas is still not flowing, which is what Russia wants.

 

What would be the incentive?

 

I get what you are saying but I believe these leaks are in Dutch waters.   Was Russia operating vessels or aircraft in that area and I'm not sure damaging pipelines that they themselves paid a significant percentage for is realistic.  If something was dropped from ship or plane I wouldn't think it not very difficult to ascertain who or what was in that area the past month.  Could a sub have done it and if so what type of sonar nets are there.   I would think that area from sky to seabed are highly monitered for Sabotage.   

I disagree that in the big picture Russia doesn't want the gas flowing.   Short term with Ukraine yes but long term its extremely vital to their economy.

I still wouldn't look past China.  Would they benefit from more supply with Europe unable to get it?   Who else benefits?

Environmental organizations shouldn't be overlooked as well.     

Edited September 28, 2022 by Highmark

[Rod]

Makes no sense for Russia to blow it up unless they think Biden is ready to invade 

[Catalina]

I don't know about ships or planes, but it would not be hard to do some damage with a submarine. Would only need two torpedoes. 

Lots of countries have the capability, so that does not help much with the 'who', unless they find some debris down there that can be identified. 

[$poorsledder$]

Poland claiming US did this with a helicopter?

[Anler]

3 hours ago, akvanden said:

If we’re able to definitively prove who did it, who would have the most to lose? Russia, who’s already turned NS1 off? Or the US, at the risk of severely damaging its relationships with its European allies (with no motive present), and risking the unification of allied military support against Russia?!? 
 

You know exactly how this will play out - Russia: “we want to help our European friends by turning NS1 back on but now we can’t because someone damaged it.” See, now they’re not the bad guys who simply turned it off - and people will eat it up.

Uh wrong again. Voila! new pipeline coming on board just in time.... Probably why the Polish parliament was thanking the US for blowing up NS 1 and 2

https://www.euronews.com/2022/09/27/baltic-pipe-norway-poland-gas-pipeline-opens-in-key-move-to-cut-dependency-on-russia

[Anler]

24 minutes ago, ACE said:

Makes no sense for Russia to blow it up unless they think Biden is ready to invade 

Exactly. I dont know how these mental midgets gobble this propaganda up. Why would Russia blow up their own pipeline? They were plenty happy selling gas to Europe