Bontz Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 GMC Hummer EV Shows That Electric Cars Can Have $100 Fillups Too In our testing, we found that the pickup's massive 212.7-kWh battery pack costs a pretty penny to recharge at a DC fast-charging station. BY JOEY CAPPARELLA • It could cost more than $100 to fill the GMC Hummer EV's big battery pack at a fast-charging station. • We performed our charging test at an Electrify America station, which costs $0.43 per kilowatt-hour. • The Hummer maxed out at an impressive 287-kW charging rate, second only to the Lucid Air in this year's field of EV of the Year contenders. Welcome to Car and Driver's Testing Hub, where we zoom in on the test numbers. We've been pushing vehicles to their limits since 1956 to provide objective data to bolster our subjective impressions (you can see how we test here). It costs a lot of money to fill up a big pickup truck's gas tank—especially these days. But what if we told you that even an electric pickup truck could crest the $100 mark when it comes time to replenish the battery? That's what we found when we plugged the 2022 GMC Hummer EV in for a fast-charge session. For our charging test, we plugged the Hummer in at an Electrify America station to go from 10 percent charge to 90 percent charge. At current rates of $0.43 per kWh, adding 80 percent charge cost us $81, including sales tax. Extrapolating from that, to go from 0 percent to 100 percent charge at a DC fast-charging station would cost over $100. The Hummer did hit an impressive 287-kW peak charge rate, second only to the Lucid Air among the 20 competitors in this year's field of EV of the Year contenders. But its average between 10 and 90 percent state of charge was a less wowing 98 kW and, partially because the pack is so large, it took an hour an 49 minutes to add that 80-percent charge. Now, you might notice that multiplying the Hummer EV's total battery capacity of 212.7 kWh by $0.43 doesn't quite come to $100. But there are charging losses, as evidenced by our 80 percent fill that took 177.9 kWh, about five percent more than what made it into the pack (80 percent of the total capacity is 170.2 kWh). And our session in Michigan added a 6 percent sales tax, which of course varies by state. Charging costs can also vary by state, and by charging provider. But the point remains: although GM has attempted to recast the Hummer for the electrified era, that doesn't mean it's cheap to fuel. It is, after all, a 9640-pound, 1000-horsepower, four-wheel-drive pickup truck that costs six figures, no matter what it's powered by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted August 26, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 26, 2022 Making an EV Hummer was one of the most ridiculous ideas of late from GM. And $100 per charge???? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rod Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, HSR said: How much gas does that buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, ACE said: How much gas does that buy More than enough to go 70k miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravy davey Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, HSR said: Just throw it away and buy another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted August 26, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, HSR said: A Volt battery is $8800 Edited August 26, 2022 by Steve753 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 6.8 hours labor 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 and they have none 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 dealer down the line got one of those hummers in. leaking t tops ( didn't learn from the 80s-90s ) , blank screen , and numerous issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted August 26, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted August 26, 2022 Part number on that estimate for the battery is a discontinued battery… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted August 26, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 26, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Part number on that estimate for the battery is a discontinued battery… Likely why they sell refurbs now for $8800. Edited August 26, 2022 by Steve753 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Part number on that estimate for the battery is a discontinued battery… i think that was a new battery. the part number was still valid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted August 26, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted August 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, sleepybrew said: i think that was a new battery. the part number was still valid You sure??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, BOHICA said: You sure??? does not say discontinued. if you had one it would ok to sell. no stock on any of them. pricing is still there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, BOHICA said: You sure??? still listed as returnable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted August 26, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted August 26, 2022 Some GM parts site list it as discontinued. but when you search for a 2012 volt battery on the same sight a much cheaper version comes up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 3 hours ago, HSR said: Same guy that would pay $22,000 for a Chevrolet Cruze motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Bontz said: GMC Hummer EV Shows That Electric Cars Can Have $100 Fillups Too In our testing, we found that the pickup's massive 212.7-kWh battery pack costs a pretty penny to recharge at a DC fast-charging station. BY JOEY CAPPARELLA • It could cost more than $100 to fill the GMC Hummer EV's big battery pack at a fast-charging station. • We performed our charging test at an Electrify America station, which costs $0.43 per kilowatt-hour. • The Hummer maxed out at an impressive 287-kW charging rate, second only to the Lucid Air in this year's field of EV of the Year contenders. Welcome to Car and Driver's Testing Hub, where we zoom in on the test numbers. We've been pushing vehicles to their limits since 1956 to provide objective data to bolster our subjective impressions (you can see how we test here). It costs a lot of money to fill up a big pickup truck's gas tank—especially these days. But what if we told you that even an electric pickup truck could crest the $100 mark when it comes time to replenish the battery? That's what we found when we plugged the 2022 GMC Hummer EV in for a fast-charge session. For our charging test, we plugged the Hummer in at an Electrify America station to go from 10 percent charge to 90 percent charge. At current rates of $0.43 per kWh, adding 80 percent charge cost us $81, including sales tax. Extrapolating from that, to go from 0 percent to 100 percent charge at a DC fast-charging station would cost over $100. The Hummer did hit an impressive 287-kW peak charge rate, second only to the Lucid Air among the 20 competitors in this year's field of EV of the Year contenders. But its average between 10 and 90 percent state of charge was a less wowing 98 kW and, partially because the pack is so large, it took an hour an 49 minutes to add that 80-percent charge. Now, you might notice that multiplying the Hummer EV's total battery capacity of 212.7 kWh by $0.43 doesn't quite come to $100. But there are charging losses, as evidenced by our 80 percent fill that took 177.9 kWh, about five percent more than what made it into the pack (80 percent of the total capacity is 170.2 kWh). And our session in Michigan added a 6 percent sales tax, which of course varies by state. Charging costs can also vary by state, and by charging provider. But the point remains: although GM has attempted to recast the Hummer for the electrified era, that doesn't mean it's cheap to fuel. It is, after all, a 9640-pound, 1000-horsepower, four-wheel-drive pickup truck that costs six figures, no matter what it's powered by. how about using the big font next time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: how about using the big font next time? Copy & paste ... I don't care about the font, it's better than forcing people to click on a fucking link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Teslas are getting over 250,000 miles on a battery pack. Some over 300,000. Replacements are around $14k with labor. Expect the prices to drop as more shops start working on EVs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Bontz said: Copy & paste ... I don't care about the font, it's better than forcing people to click on a fucking link. How do you force anyone to do anything here? That’s a ridiculous statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Teslas are getting over 250,000 miles on a battery pack. Some over 300,000. Replacements are around $14k with labor. Expect the prices to drop as more shops start working on EVs. And some catch fire sitting still 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Deephaven said: And some catch fire sitting still So do fords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bontz said: Copy & paste ... I don't care about the font, it's better than forcing people to click on a fucking link. Absolutely. Some people on here are dumb enough that clicking on their link is potentially dangerous. If you can't summarize or post the text directly it isn't worth it. I just took the big font as you yelling to make your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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