40% Of Voters Want Trump Impeachment, Number Climbing

[Angry ginger]

33 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

Trump is breaking many laws. His business interests are the number one issue.....even you know that

nope sorry about your luck but while it raises questions and potential impropriety there i no law that requires the president divest all his assets.  
 

 

 

[revkevsdi]

It would be absolutely stupid to make any moves against Trump right now.

You only have to see the attitudes on here to realize that supporters haven't started to question his honesty or motives yet. If you take him out on a technicality (like the Reps tried with Bill) Then you'll have them crying foul. But if you let Trump put his plans in place, and see how people are affected. If you allow him to make deals with foreign powers that make his family and friends richer, eventually people will figure it out. But it is going to have to be obvious enough that he won't be able to pass it off as fake news.

Edited February 6, 2017 by revkevsdi

[spin_dry]

2 hours ago, ICEMAN! said:

"Adults"

Meanwhile Trump runs around like a spoiled child having Twitter temper tantrums every time something doesn't go his way.

maybe trump is their idea of adult behavior?

[Mainecat]

33 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

It would be absolutely stupid to make any moves against Trump right now.

You only have to see the attitudes on here to realize that supporters haven't started to question his honesty or motives yet. If you take him out on a technicality (like the Reps tried with Bill) Then you'll have them crying foul. But if you let Trump put his plans in place, and see how people are affected. If you allow him to make deals with foreign powers that make his family and friends richer, eventually people will figure it out. But it is going to have to be obvious enough that he won't be able to pass it off as fake news.

So true. Can you imagine the Obamas or Clintons doing this?

The Emoluments clause....

 

gs_121616_emoluments-clause1.pdf

Edited February 6, 2017 by Mainecat

[Highmark]

1 hour ago, Mainecat said:

Trump is breaking many laws. His business interests are the number one issue.....even you know that

Care to post up one law he has broke. 

 

 

 

[Highmark]

37 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

It would be absolutely stupid to make any moves against Trump right now.

You only have to see the attitudes on here to realize that supporters haven't started to question his honesty or motives yet. If you take him out on a technicality (like the Reps tried with Bill) Then you'll have them crying foul. But if you let Trump put his plans in place, and see how people are affected. If you allow him to make deals with foreign powers that make his family and friends richer, eventually people will figure it out. But it is going to have to be obvious enough that he won't be able to pass it off as fake news.

Lying under oath (Perjury) and Obstruction of Justice are "technicalities?"   

 

[Mainecat]

10 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Care to post up one law he has broke. 

 

 

 

I did.

[Highmark]

1 hour ago, Angry ginger said:

nope sorry about your luck but while it raises questions and potential impropriety there i no law that requires the president divest all his assets.  
 

 

 

Correct.

5 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

I did.

See above.

[ICEMAN!]

4 hours ago, BOHICA said:

You get first crack at betting him on that.  But i will gladly bet him on that if you dont want too.  Taking money from democrats is as easy as taking candy from a baby.  Trump wont be impeached....  he is pretty old though and could die in office

Let's hope so

[XCR1250]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/donald-trump-popularity-polling-234630

Just how popular is Donald Trump? Two weeks into the new president’s term, it’s a matter of some dispute.

Traditional phone polls that use live interviewers — including some of the most trusted polls in politics and media — report limited support for Trump and the controversial executive orders he’s signed. But automated phone and Internet-based surveys tell a different story. Once the element of anonymity is added, the president’s approval ratings suddenly look a lot better.

 

It’s reigniting the campaign debate over whether pollsters are accurately measuring Trump’s popularity — or the breadth of support for his policies. The White House is already seizing on the issue, and forcefully pushing back against the early narrative that the president is suffering from historically bad polling numbers.

At Friday’s White House press briefing, when asked to comment on a newly-released CBS News poll — conducted by live interviewers — which put Trump’s approval rating at only 40 percent, press secretary Sean Spicer was ready with an alternate data point.

“I think there’s also a Rasmussen poll that showed he had a 51-percent approval rating,” Spicer replied sharply.

 

Poll: Trump has highest disapproval rating of any newly elected president

By NOLAN D. MCCASKILL

In referring to an automated poll that put the president’s popularity in the black, Spicer actually understated Trump’s level of support. According to Rasmussen Reports’ most recent survey released Friday, 54 percent of likely voters approved of the president’s job performance.

The debate is a flashback to last fall’s election — in which Trump ran ahead of his poll numbers, particularly in the Upper Midwest states that propelled him to victory. And just like during the campaign season, there’s evidence suggesting that Americans may be less willing to admit they support the president and his actions if they are talking to another person on the phone, compared to polls completed with the anonymity of the internet or an automated phone interface.

“I think you’re getting two things,” said John McLaughlin, a Republican pollster who worked for Trump during the campaign. “One, the online surveys, people are more likely to put in an honest answer because they’re not speaking to a human being.”

McLaughlin notes there are other differences. Some polls, like Rasmussen Reports, survey likely voters, though it isn’t clear in which election the respondents are likely to vote. The POLITICO/Morning Consult poll is conducted among registered voters, while Gallup and CNN/ORC survey all adults.

Generally, polls of all adults are more Democratic-leaning, while likely-voter polls tilt more toward Republicans. Self-identified Republicans have been more likely to turn out in recent elections than their counterparts in the other party.

 

 

“A poll of all adults about the new administration will tell you what a possible electorate will look like if everyone showed up,” McLaughlin said. “But they don’t.”

The disparities between modes of polling are hard to miss. Majorities of Americans in Gallup, CBS News and CNN/ORC polls — all live-interviewer— released this week disapprove of both Trump’s order temporarily banning citizens of seven predominantly Muslim countries from entering the U.S. and the indefinite suspension of the U.S.’s Syrian refugee program. The president’s approval ratings are underwater in all of them, and two of the polls report a majority disapproves of Trump’s performance to date.

Those results differ from other polls utilizing newer, more anonymous methodologies. Polls conducted over the internet from Reuters/Ipsos and Huffington Post/YouGov indicate, on balance, support for these initiatives is modestly higher among Americans than opposition. A Rasmussen Reports survey, conducted via automated telephone calls, pegs support for the order at 52 percent among likely voters, with 43 percent opposed. The Democratic automated-phone pollster Public Policy Polling finds opposition to the ban (49 percent) only marginally greater than support for it (47 percent) among registered voters.

Trump’s average approval rating in live-caller surveys is only 41 percent, with 49 percent disapproving. But averaging together the five most recent internet or automated phone calls yields a 48-percent approval rating for Trump, with 46 percent disapproval.

This week’s POLITICO/Morning Consult poll, conducted over the internet, was among the most positive for Trump: 49 percent of registered voters approved of his job performance, while only 41 percent disapproved.

A supporter cheers as President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump walk in the inaugural parade after being sworn in at the 58th presidential inauguration on Jan. 20. | Getty

Kyle Dropp, Morning Consult’s co-founder and chief research officer, acknowledged that the poll’s online methodology could explain why it showed Trump in better shape than other, live-interview surveys.

“There could be a mode effect at play like there was during the election,” Dropp said.

Throughout the campaign, researchers studied whether “shy Trump” voters — people who intended to vote for Trump but didn’t want to admit it to pollsters — existed, and whether they could tip the race to the New York businessman. A study from POLITICO and Morning Consult in October of last year showed only a slight difference between voters interviewed online and over the phone.

The presence of a live interviewer on the other end of the phone line isn’t the only difference between the surveys. Each of the polls uses different question wording that may contribute to the differences between them — with Rasmussen’s invoking of keeping out “individuals who are terrorist threats” perhaps leading to the strongest support measured by the polls thus far.

So far, polling on the performance of the nascent Trump administration is limited. And there are only a handful of readings for the most controversial of Trump’s actions thus far: the immigration and refugee order issued just last Friday.

But the president’s first two weeks in the White House raise questions about whether Trump is better viewed than traditional measures indicate — and whether the hard edge of some of his provocative stances and statements will make it difficult to accurately gauge his support right up until his likely reelection bid in 2020.

Pollsters are already studying the emerging phenomenon, though there’s no consensus yet on whether social-desirability bias — respondents’ reticence to express support for Trump because they believe he is viewed negatively by others — is the main driver.

For now, the polling gap provides talking points for all sides.

Edited February 7, 2017 by XCR1250

[SVT MXZ XRS]

7 hours ago, spin_dry said:

polls were right. she won by 3 million votes. 

What did she win again?    

6 hours ago, jtssrx said:

Impeached for what? 

Exactly   

[Woodtick]

8 hours ago, spin_dry said:

polls were right. she won by 3 million votes. 

 

[SVT MXZ XRS]

42 minutes ago, Woodtick said:

 

 

[Sleepr2]

7 hours ago, Mainecat said:

I did.

What.?  Make an ass of yourself? That's nothing  new here,,,,,

[revkevsdi]

4 hours ago, SVT Renegade XRS said:

What did she win again?    

Exactly   

3 million more votes than her rival in a place that some inhabitants call the world's greatest democracy. 

I'm sure she wanted to be President. Her vanity would demand that of her. But watching Trump fuck his supporters must make her laugh. Perhaps instead of calling Trump a liar, they should just play his debate answers while he is announcing his policies.        

[SVT MXZ XRS]

36 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

3 million more votes than her rival in a place that some inhabitants call the world's greatest democracy. 

I'm sure she wanted to be President. Her vanity would demand that of her. But watching Trump fuck his supporters must make her laugh. Perhaps instead of calling Trump a liar, they should just play his debate answers while he is announcing his policies.        

[Rigid1]

7 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

3 million more votes than her rival in a place that some inhabitants call the world's greatest democracy. 

I'm sure she wanted to be President. Her vanity would demand that of her. But watching Trump fuck his supporters must make her laugh. Perhaps instead of calling Trump a liar, they should just play his debate answers while he is announcing his policies.        

Ummm, he is pretty much spot on keeping his campaign promises..

[revkevsdi]

6 hours ago, Rigid1 said:

Ummm, he is pretty much spot on keeping his campaign promises..

Is Hillary in Jail? 

Did he go after Wall Street?

has he proven that he knows more about ISIS than all of the Generals?

has he told you how Mexico will pay for the wall?

has he shown you his brilliant plan to replace Obamacare?

Did he ban all Muslims from coming into the Country on only ones he doesn't have business dealings with?

Just because spicer tells you Trump is doing a great job, doesn't mean it is true. 

[Skidooski]

8 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

Is Hillary in Jail?

Did he go after Wall Street?

has he proven that he knows more about ISIS than all of the Generals?

has he told you how Mexico will pay for the wall?

has he shown you his brilliant plan to replace Obamacare?

Did he ban all Muslims from coming into the Country on only ones he doesn't have business dealings with?

Just because spicer tells you Trump is doing a great job, doesn't mean it is true.

POTUS for less the 20 days 

Sofa King We Todd It

[revkevsdi]

4 minutes ago, Skidooski said:

POTUS for less the 20 days 

Sofa King We Todd It

Your little Rigid friend was the one who said he kept his promises.

[Skidooski]

Just now, revkevsdi said:

Your little Rigid friend was the one who said he kept his promises.

He's been keeping promises through his first 18 days and you nit wits whine about that. Then you turn and whine he hasn't kept a dozen more. Two headed goofs!

[SVT MXZ XRS]

2 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

Is Hillary in Jail? 

Did he go after Wall Street?

has he proven that he knows more about ISIS than all of the Generals?

has he told you how Mexico will pay for the wall?

has he shown you his brilliant plan to replace Obamacare?

Did he ban all Muslims from coming into the Country on only ones he doesn't have business dealings with?

Just because spicer tells you Trump is doing a great job, doesn't mean it is true. 

 

2 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

Your little Rigid friend was the one who said he kept his promises.

 

2 hours ago, Skidooski said:

He's been keeping promises through his first 18 days and you nit wits whine about that. Then you turn and whine he hasn't kept a dozen more. Two headed goofs!

Hey Newftard, 

[revkevsdi]

Name the promises he has kept.

[SVT MXZ XRS]