Mainecat Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 The very poor and destitute seeking a better life in the US use the border. The very wealthy drug lords, killers and rapists pay the guards to get in and out the US at will. The wall is a huge waste of tax dollars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted January 26, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: if...... the area we were trying to protect was small, could be completely surrounded by a wall, and was heavily guarded the wall could work do we have those 3 conditions here? 1900 miles for the border and the Great Wall is 5500 miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Skidooski said: 1900 miles for the border and the Great Wall is 5500 miles how well did it work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 some read on the subject.... appropriate quote, eh? "The first emperor’s toy How did it all work? Simple – the wall’s daunting appearance itself should have been enough to make possible invaders think twice about their intentions. Aside from this, there were also archers all along the wall, making it more of a threat. Unfortunately, invaders often decided to simply ride around the wall. There were also large garrisons manning the wall’s larger gates, with the purpose of keeping invaders from breaking in. But again, unfortunately, during the most crucial stages of Chinese history traitors opened the gates for the enemy willingly." http://gbtimes.com/life/failure-great-wall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 26, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mainecat said: you do know walls dont work right? Mexico has one on their southern border. Laughable they think we shouldn't. Honestly you guys that are against the wall what do you want open borders? Obviously what we currently have isn't working so fuck why not try something? Edited January 26, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Shifty Posted January 26, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 26, 2017 The Great Wall of china did not work. It was incomplete. Couple hun miles of wall here then a big gap,some wall ,gap etc etc. our wall will not work either unless we ACTIVELY ENFORCE and patrol said wall. The biggest problem with our border issue is that there is basically no repercussions for breaching it. Round them up,give some food water and med treatment and ship them back. That's what we do. 2 weeks later they're back. Odds are sooner or later they'll make it. And they will. ENFORCE and protect. That is the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Mexico has one on their southern border. Laughable they think we shouldn't. Honestly you guys that are against the wall what do you want open borders? Obviously what we currently have isn't working so fuck why not try something? wtf makes you think we want open borders? the border we have now is working, just not 100%, and the wall will not change that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted January 26, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Mexico has one on their southern border. Laughable they think we shouldn't. Guatemalan's continuously call Mexicans racists for it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Shifty Posted January 26, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 26, 2017 I've read that the wall on Mexicos southern border is bs, and it's not there. Basically geographically impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Just now, Shifty said: The Great Wall of china did not work. It was incomplete. Couple hun miles of wall here then a big gap,some wall ,gap etc etc. our wall will not work either unless we ACTIVELY ENFORCE and patrol said wall. The biggest problem with our border issue is that there is basically no repercussions for breaching it. Round them up,give some food water and med treatment and ship them back. That's what we do. 2 weeks later they're back. Odds are sooner or later they'll make it. And they will. ENFORCE and protect. That is the answer this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Snoslinger said: this is why we laugh at you idiots. you see no problem spending billions of dollars on a million dollar problem, and then at the end of the day you still have the million dollar problem. but it apparently makes you sleep a little better at night or something? Trump just hired 5000 more border guards textbook Dunning Kruger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 26, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: wtf makes you think we want open borders? the border we have now is working, just not 100%, and the wall will not change that. Yeah its working. You can't honestly believe that Sno? Its estimated around 750,000 cross the border each year. About half get caught. I'd say thats not working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, Shifty said: The Great Wall of china did not work. It was incomplete. Couple hun miles of wall here then a big gap,some wall ,gap etc etc. our wall will not work either unless we ACTIVELY ENFORCE and patrol said wall. The biggest problem with our border issue is that there is basically no repercussions for breaching it. Round them up,give some food water and med treatment and ship them back. That's what we do. 2 weeks later they're back. Odds are sooner or later they'll make it. And they will. ENFORCE and protect. That is the answer 8 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: this... Are you in full support of this when it comes to sanctuary cities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 be much easier/cheaper to install a tower every 1/4 mile and get right wing whackjobs to pay to sit in them and pick off beaners crossing in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Shifty Posted January 26, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 26, 2017 I imagine slingers idea of enforce and ptotect is a bit different than mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 26, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Mainecat said: The very poor and destitute seeking a better life in the US use the border. The very wealthy drug lords, killers and rapists pay the guards to get in and out the US at will. The wall is a huge waste of tax dollars I remember when you as anti-illegal immigration as anyone on CE. There are poor all over the world, most much more destitute than those from Mexico. We need to help them there not here. Edited January 26, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Shifty said: I imagine slingers idea of enforce and ptotect is a bit different than mine. well if yours is to shoot them, than yah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjameven Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 29 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: wtf makes you think we want open borders? the border we have now is working, just not 100%, and the wall will not change that. holy shit Slinger...did you seriously write that? what percentage do you think it is working? I get you don't think the wall is a good idea and you hate Trump...those are facts. you have to be just stirring shit here...I know you are not a stupid person... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted January 26, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 26, 2017 Lefties claiming the wall does and doesn't work in the same thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Just now, pjameven said: holy shit Slinger...did you seriously write that? what percentage do you think it is working? I get you don't think the wall is a good idea and you hate Trump...those are facts. you have to be just stirring shit here...I know you are not a stupid person... well we're catching 325,000 attempts each year. that tells me something is working, but not 100%, as I stated. could it be better? sure, with more patrol. the wall, by itself, will not put a major dent in the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 11 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: well we're catching 325,000 attempts each year. that tells me something is working, but not 100%, as I stated. could it be better? sure, with more patrol. the wall, by itself, will not put a major dent in the problem. Round them up,give some food water and med treatment and ship them back. That's what we do. 2 weeks later they're back. Odds are sooner or later they'll make it. And they will. ENFORCE and protect. That is the answer Does this echo your thoughts on sanctuary cities as well, slinger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 If this wall was to keep evil rich and businesses from leaving with their jobs and money Timeshare would be down there already with a whistle screaming for everyone to work faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted January 26, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said: If this wall was to keep evil rich and businesses from leaving with their jobs and money Timeshare would be down there already with a whistle screaming for everyone to work faster. Meh. That's like saying Moto is going to buy a pair of shit kicking boots to go out and kick some shit with his "comrades". Ain't gonna happen Put on your shit kickers and kick some shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, racer254 said: Round them up,give some food water and med treatment and ship them back. That's what we do. 2 weeks later they're back. Odds are sooner or later they'll make it. And they will. ENFORCE and protect. That is the answer Does this echo your thoughts on sanctuary cities as well, slinger? I have mixed thoughts on sanctuary cities to be honest. I can see both sides to the argument. are you capable of doing things like that? if what is supposed to happen in sanctuary cities, happened, this wouldn't be much of a discussion. but you see some rare cases, like the one in SF, where a screw up occurred and you think the whole thing is running rampant and that you have the perfect solution. everyone and everything will align perfectly. that's not how it works in the real world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said: If this wall was to keep evil rich and businesses from leaving with their jobs and money Timeshare would be down there already with a whistle screaming for everyone to work faster. hardly. you know why? cause I know they could find many other ways to get out. next... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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