ArcticCrusher Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Mainecat said: The the US numbers are made up but the rest of the worlds numbers are not? Here is the Oct 2017 SPARS Plandemic Playbook, a Coronavirus outbreak planned for 2025-2028 to last 4 years. Get a clue. https://jhsphcenterforhealthsecurity.s3.amazonaws.com/spars-pandemic-scenario.pdf Edited December 15, 2021 by ArcticCrusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member XCR INDY Posted December 15, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted December 15, 2021 Pfizer BioNTECH fact sheet as of 12/9/21 if any one wants to read it. EUA Fact sheet for Recipients - Pfizer-BioNTECH COVID-19 Vac.PDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 33 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Moderna was working on the mRNA vax back in 2017. Sorry your search engine doesn't work. Oh yes, those pesky Covid variants that were released back in 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, akvanden said: Oh yes, those pesky Covid variants that were released back in 2017. The patents were transferred from your government to Moderna in 2017 and they shared the IP. Moderna never had a successful product come to market prior. Why is it that those who get their facts from the fake news are in the dark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member XCR INDY Posted December 15, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted December 15, 2021 Moderna fact sheet as of 12/9/21. https://www.fda.gov/media/144638/download Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 3 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: This virus was engineered as a bioweapon. You are funny and can never stay on topic can you. Think for once. Regardless if that is true or not it isn't relevant. 3 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: The variants started at the locations where the vaxxines were being tested. Nice made up story. Not where they came from. If you took virology 101 you would realize variants are natural in viruses regardless of natural immunity or vaccination. Perhaps you want to share how you determined it is these locations and what locations these were...but you made that nonsense up so you obviously can't. 3 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: "The more you vaxxinate with a leaky vaxxine, the more escape mutations you have to deal with." That statement is a hard fact, sorry if it shatters your worldview. And the longer the virus is around the more mutations and the more people with natural immunity the more variants. Isolating one is absurd and you picked the least likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: The patents were transferred from your government to Moderna in 2017 and they shared the IP. Moderna never had a successful product come to market prior. Why is it that those who get their facts from the fake news are in the dark? And? You get your facts from Twitter and Glen Beck, so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, akvanden said: And? You get your facts from Twitter and Glen Beck, so The mRNA patents shared back in 2017 between your government and Moderna and? You need to get a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, Deephaven said: You are funny and can never stay on topic can you. Think for once. Regardless if that is true or not it isn't relevant. Nice made up story. Not where they came from. If you took virology 101 you would realize variants are natural in viruses regardless of natural immunity or vaccination. Perhaps you want to share how you determined it is these locations and what locations these were...but you made that nonsense up so you obviously can't. And the longer the virus is around the more mutations and the more people with natural immunity the more variants. Isolating one is absurd and you picked the least likely. This is above your IQ comprehension level though. Will mass vaccination against Omicron give the final blow? Mass vaccination against Omicron will take away our very last opportunity to prevent SARS-CoV-2 from making a natural selection in favor of hosts who have preserved a fully functional innate immune defense. Many scientists believe that the multitude of mutations found in the Omicron variant constitute an evolutionary disadvantageous change that drives the virus into a mild course of disease and possibly even into endemicity or extinction altogether. Once again, predictions lose their credibility when natural evolutionary trends are countered by large-scale human intervention. In case of the current viral pandemic, the most worrisome threat is posed by the ongoing mass vaccination program that is only expanding, ignoring concerns related to the evolutionary capacity of this virus. In order to understand why mass vaccination with updated (i.e., ‘anti-Omicron’) C-19 vaccines is at risk of entailing a bioweapon-like disaster, one must follow the evolutionary consequences of population- level immune pressure on viral infectiousness, a phenomenon that is now widely acknowledged to be driven by mass vaccination campaigns (1). When a dramatic change in the antigenic constellation of the virus (e.g., the one represented by Omicron) occurs in the context of mass vaccination in the middle of a pandemic, there should be no doubt that widespread immune pressure is involved. But how can immune pressure on viral infectiousness, for which Omicron is now even affecting its very capacity to be neutralized, lead to a more clement viral behavior? The biggest lesson learned from this pandemic is that whenever we are puzzled about its evolutionary comportment, we should invoke the rules of...innate immunity! By evolving more and more resistance to S-directed, neutralizing antibodies (Abs), SARS-CoV-2 is increasingly setting free the host’s innate Abs (as they’re no longer suppressed). As innate Abs clear the virus in ways that are not Ag-specific, natural selection of SARS-CoV-2 variants that could escape from innate Abs does not occur because such variants simply don’t exist. More specifically, although Omicron undeniably results from population-level immune pressure and represents a clear-cut example of how SARS-CoV-2 continues to unfold its evolutionary capacity when mass vaccination threatens its perpetuation, it cannot afford this evolutionary adaptation while continuing to outcompete relevant innate Abs. COVID-19 vaccine weekly surveillance reports (weeks 33 through 48), as published by UK Health Security Agency, strongly suggest that innate Abs, especially when thoroughly trained (such as, for example, in older age groups), can resist competition from vaccinal Abs and thereby dramatically reduce case rates in vaccinees (2). It is therefore not surprising that when the virus- neutralizing capacity of vaccinal Abs further diminishes (e.g., in Omicron), innate Abs regain their full- fledged virus-sterilizing capacity and hence dramatically diminish the incidence of disease in vaccinees. On the other hand, lack of immune recognition of Omicron by previously acquired short-lived Abs in unvaccinated individuals (as a result of previous mild infection with the Delta variant) will also diminish the incidence of disease in younger unvaccinated individuals (note 1).As Omicron is extremely infectious, it ishighly likely that we’ll soon start to witness spectacular waves of infection (mostly exempt from severe disease) all over the world. However, these waves will be followed by a strong decline in viral infectious pressure. This would be the very last moment for halting all mass vaccination programs in order to enable the overall population to further diminish viral infectivity while implementing a widespread antiviral chemoprophylaxis program to further prevent transmission of this highly infectious variant. Given the continued ignorance and lack of understanding of the pandemic & detrimental consequences of mass vaccination by public and global health authorities, the chances that the disaster I’ve previously alluded to can be prevented are slim (3). The scientifically corrupt narrative is likely to be further nurtured by more and more cases of disease that are likely to occur in vaccinees once they will have acquired short-lived Abs directed at Omicron’s spike protein as a result of previous mild infection. The latter can more easily outcompete innate Abs in vaccinees, the training of which was stalled as a result of their immune suppression by vaccinal Abs. Rapid re-exposure to the highly infectious Omicron variant could then make them much more susceptible to disease. note 1: As already reported, older unvaccinated age groups have significantly lower case rates, presumably due to thorough immune training yielding innate Abs of higher affinity (whereas all unvaccinated age groups improve on protection from disease with prolonged exposure: see data published by UK Health Security Agency https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surveillance-reports) References https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jpclett.1c03380 https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/omicron-the-calm-before-the-tsunami https://trialsitenews.com/continued-mass-vaccination-will-only-push-the-evolutionary-capacity-of-sars-cov-2-spike-protein-beyond-the-omicron-version/ https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/will-mass-vaccination-against-omicron-give-the-final-blow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plissken Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: The patents were transferred from your government to Moderna in 2017 and they shared the IP. Moderna never had a successful product come to market prior. Why is it that those who get their facts from the fake news are in the dark? Keep connecting those dots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plissken Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 The patent was in 2017……the 17th letter of the alphabet is Q! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 49 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: The mRNA patents shared back in 2017 between your government and Moderna and? You need to get a clue. No, that statement alone doesn't mean anything, hence the AND? Was there a note or something attached to the IP saying "for the diabolical plague Fauci is releasing in two years"? That would be something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 48 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: This is above your IQ comprehension level though. Mass vaccination against Omicron will take away our very last opportunity to prevent SARS-CoV-2 from making a natural selection in favor of hosts who have preserved a fully functional innate immune defense. Lol. The beginning paragraph has zero merit. Virology 101...All sorts of wrong in it. -making a natural selection - it's a virus it has no choice -favor - it can't favor shit, it isn't thinking -preserved fully functional innate immune defense - the only telling word here is innate. The rest has variance on all people and obviously the author is biased against anything artificially fortified....but since the virus cannot choose or favor it is irrelevant anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Get the Jab and get the Virus ‘Virtually every’ COVID omicron case at NY college was in fully vaccinated, official says Julia Marnin Wed, December 15, 2021, 10:57 AM Cornell University is seeing an uptick in coronavirus cases and has detected the “highly contagious” omicron variant on campus, particularly in fully vaccinated individuals, according to campus officials. Between Dec. 7 and 13, the Ivy League school in Ithaca, New York, reported 883 students testing positive for COVID-19, its online dashboard shows. “Virtually every case of the Omicron variant to date has been found in fully vaccinated students, a portion of whom had also received a booster shot,” Joel M. Malina, the school’s vice president for university relations, said in a statement provided to McClatchy News. On Dec. 13, Cornell’s COVID-19 testing lab found “evidence of the highly contagious Omicron variant in a significant number of Monday’s positive student samples,” university President Martha E. Pollack said in a letter to the campus community. Out of the students infected with COVID-19, the school has “not seen severe illness” as of Dec. 14, Pollack assured. The on-campus population of Cornell is 97% fully vaccinated, according to its virus data tracker that has recorded 26,008 students and 13,311 faculty and staff members who are fully vaccinated. Pollack noted that the evidence of omicron, first identified by South African researchers on Nov. 24, is “preliminary.” “PCR testing has identified its hallmark (the so-called S-gene dropout) in a substantial number of virus samples,” Pollack said. “While we must await confirmatory sequencing information to be sure that the source is Omicron, we are proceeding as if it is.” She added that the detection of omicron has prompted the university to enact an “Alert Level Red” to “limit further spread” ahead of the end of the fall semester. This means that the school’s final exams are now online as of Dec. 14, the ceremony for December graduates on the 18 is canceled and all undergraduate events are canceled, according to Pollack. Malina said that “the presence of the initial Omicron variant coincides with an unusually high degree of transmission among vaccinated students after Thanksgiving travel and at the end of the semester.” Cornell’s president acknowledged that some might wonder why the school is “imposing such serious steps” and said it is “obviously extremely dispiriting” to do so in the letter. She said that “we do have a role to play in reducing the spread of the disease in the broader community.” A look at the school’s COVID-19 dashboard shows a big jump in COVID-19 cases from Dec. 7, when 27 positive cases were reported, through Dec. 13, when 276 new positive cases were recorded. The omicron variant was first found in the U.S. on Dec. 1 in California, and it has since been detected in more than 30 states, according to the CDC variant tracker. “While there is no evidence of increased potential to cause severe disease, or death, increased infections in previously infected, or vaccinated individuals may be likely,” according to findings on the omicron variant from Oxford University in the U.K. At Cornell, vaccination is required for students attending on-campus classes during the 2021-2022 school year unless they “received a religious or medical exemption.” Cornell’s last day of classes were on Dec. 7, according to the school’s academic calendar, and finals began Dec. 11 and will last until Dec. 18. “For the past 20 months, Cornell has developed and followed a science-based approach to COVID-19 decision-making – including ongoing modeling and surveillance testing – that has helped us to identify positive cases early and, in concert with local public health officials, minimize the spread of the virus among our campus and the greater Ithaca communities,” Malina said. “This approach is what led us to the early detection this past weekend of Omicron variant cases at Cornell.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: Get the Jab and get the Virus ‘Virtually every’ COVID omicron case at NY college was in fully vaccinated, official says At Cornell, vaccination is required for students attending on-campus classes during the 2021-2022 school year unless they “received a religious or medical exemption.” Right from your cited text; the headline and paragraph tell the same story. If all (and yes, only 97%) have had a shot there aren't others left to get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Plissken said: Keep connecting those dots. Two weeks to flatten the curve and every lie that followed afterwards and your asking me to connect the dots. Get a brain. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Deephaven said: Lol. The beginning paragraph has zero merit. Virology 101...All sorts of wrong in it. -making a natural selection - it's a virus it has no choice -favor - it can't favor shit, it isn't thinking -preserved fully functional innate immune defense - the only telling word here is innate. The rest has variance on all people and obviously the author is biased against anything artificially fortified....but since the virus cannot choose or favor it is irrelevant anyways. You have successfully reached herd stupidity. The vax is going to mutate from those hosts where it can escape more easily. Sorry if you've been conned into believing vax protection (every 3 months) is better than natural immunity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted December 16, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted December 16, 2021 3 hours ago, akvanden said: No, that statement alone doesn't mean anything, hence the AND? Was there a note or something attached to the IP saying "for the diabolical plague Fauci is releasing in two years"? That would be something. I love how you think everything should be spelled out and given to you on a silver platter otherwise it means nothing .....fucking sheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 minute ago, EvilBird said: I love how you think everything should be spelled out and given to you on a silver platter otherwise it means nothing .....fucking sheep. I gave the idiot several links as well. Including the pandemic simulation videos. But the brainwashing runs deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 11 hours ago, ckf said: How far off could they be? If everything is a lie that means everything from both sides is a lie Fuck...that was almost as long if a read as most of the qoured above you quoted Do you believe the numbers that died of covid ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, EvilBird said: I love how you think everything should be spelled out and given to you on a silver platter otherwise it means nothing .....fucking sheep. 10 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: I gave the idiot several links as well. Including the pandemic simulation videos. But the brainwashing runs deep. No, you guys definitely shouldn’t have to explain your conspiracies. We’ll just believe you. Hey evil, maybe Jimmy Dore can help explain it? He seems sharp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, akvanden said: No, you guys definitely shouldn’t have to explain your conspiracies. We’ll just believe you. Hey evil, maybe Jimmy Dore can help explain it? He seems sharp. Take a good look at who you are believing. Those with massive conflicts of interest. Try to follow the $$$. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted December 16, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, akvanden said: No, you guys definitely shouldn’t have to explain your conspiracies. We’ll just believe you. Hey evil, maybe Jimmy Dore can help explain it? He seems sharp. Jimmy Dore is the Man you facking hack. Oh and BTW he is fully vaccinated. Yet he still can sniff out the corruption and bullshit and calls it out unlike most You ShitLibs. Edited December 16, 2021 by EvilBird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Trust the science or more like fuck the science. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Take a good look at who you are believing. Those with massive conflicts of interest. Try to follow the $$$. Your conspiracies breakdown down really quickly after you leave the border of the United States. Then it because mysterious shadow figures handing out mysterious bags of cash to keep every country in there world on the same storyline. It’s very creative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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