motonoggin Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, SSFB said: The slaves and peasants who fought for Communism too, don't forget about them. It's pretty clear that authoritarian means are rarely, if ever, justification for libertarian ends. I think we can all generally agree on that. But the rights of humanity have never been given, they have always been taken. By force. Is that application of liberatory force authoritarian? Is it a justified hierarchy? How do we determine that? We ask the people at the bottom, right? Look, this is all going to be transitionary, not immediate. Capitalism will realize, likely too late, the contradiction it is operating under and will begin to die. That may lead to a transition to socialism, or we could regress to feudalsim. It's going to be an interesting century. Edited January 21, 2017 by motonoggin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, washedupmxer said: When a mouth breather like dense danny starts by make his property communal then someone might actually take him serious Ill bet my ability to post here here his cute lil groups wont even exist next year at this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 LOLS like a confused teen just out of puberty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, washedupmxer said: LOLS like a confused teen just out of puberty You're completely outclassed here, son. Go cry some tears for those innocent windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, motonoggin said: You're completely outclassed here, son. Go cry some tears for those innocent windows. those windows as well as your ideas have had there 5 minutes you can go find a safe space and support group with like minds at the local university 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DriftBusta Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, Dave said: We are alot closer to living in communism then you think. Maybe you are. I live and prosper in the capitalist system, and come and go as I please. Our country just took a hard course correction away from anything resembling communism. 15 minutes ago, motonoggin said: The fact that you think black bloc voted for Hillary demonstrates the tiny political world you live in. Blacks are the most monolithic voting bloc there is, and they vote D most of the time. Please explain what "I think" 17 minutes ago, motonoggin said: You mean the fruits of exploited labor? Yes, that's why there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. You've lost it bud. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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motonoggin Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, washedupmxer said: those windows as well as your ideas have had there 5 minutes you can go find a safe space and support group with like minds at the local university Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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washedupmxer Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: when did you start hating yourself? because he tweeted it that makes it true? and from a guy living in the whitest of what areas on earth You just cant make this up Edited January 21, 2017 by washedupmxer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Maybe you are. I live and prosper in the capitalist system, and come and go as I please. Our country just took a hard course correction away from anything resembling communism. Blacks are the most monolithic voting bloc there is, and they vote D most of the time. Please explain what "I think" You've lost it bud. If you are prospering so much...why the fuck do you complain so much? Edited January 21, 2017 by Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Maybe you are. I live and prosper in the capitalist system, and come and go as I please. Our country just took a hard course correction away from anything resembling communism. Blacks are the most monolithic voting bloc there is, and they vote D most of the time. Please explain what "I think" You've lost it bud. The black bloc are the people dressed in black smashing windows and burning limos, bro. If you think they voted for Hillary or give two fucks about which corporation supported which corporate candidate, you're a fool. And like I said, it shows the political blinders you wear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, motonoggin said: The black bloc are the people dressed in black smashing windows and burning limos, bro. If you think they voted for Hillary or give two fucks about which corporation supported which corporate candidate, you're a fool. And like I said, it shows the political blinders you wear. the butthurt baby brigade smashed 2 windows and burned a limo and a couple trash cans. Amazing brilliant change that people can get behind!! too bad they will be forget in a couple weeks....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: The black bloc are the people dressed in black smashing windows and burning limos, bro. If you think they voted for Hillary or give two fucks about which corporation supported which corporate candidate, you're a fool. And like I said, it shows the political blinders you wear. Just the fact the he supported GW makes his opinion null and void. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, washedupmxer said: when did you start hating yourself? because he tweeted it that makes it true? and from a guy living in the whitest of what areas on earth You just cant make this up You're the whitest dude here. Being white is a state of mind, not a skin color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Yep, Fascists suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, SSFB said: Yep, Fascists suck. Agreed, and capitalism is leading us toward the economic conditions that could bring about a rebirth of fascism. You see bizarre politics like Trump because of the effects of capitalism. Just look at our foreign policy in South America to see what our government considers 'friendly'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, motonoggin said: You're the whitest dude here. Being white is a state of mind, not a skin color. a couple weeks you were calling me muslim :lol; you were owned, suck it the last line is just double down on dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, Dave said: If you are prospering so much...why the fuck do you complain so much? Try again Canadian Forrest Gump. About the only thing I could complain about today is that I'm not riding, and instead trying to have a friendly conversation with a nitwit, which is apparently a futile exercise. 8 minutes ago, motonoggin said: The black bloc are the people dressed in black smashing windows and burning limos, bro. If you think they voted for Hillary or give two fucks about which corporation supported which corporate candidate, you're a fool. And like I said, it shows the political blinders you wear. sorry, not up on my anarchist buzzwords. I know they don't support either establishment party. Everyone knows that. What you don't know is why they will continue to fail, or why I supported Trump. But go ahead and go on a rant about what you think you know about me. 5 minutes ago, Dave said: Just the fact the he supported GW makes his opinion null and void. Well you're a Canadian, speaking of null and void opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, washedupmxer said: a couple weeks you were calling me muslim :lol; you were owned, suck it the last line is just double down on dumb You've been internally colonized by whiteness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Agreed, and capitalism is leading us toward the economic conditions that could bring about a rebirth of fascism. You see bizarre politics like Trump because of the effects of capitalism. Nope, the policies of the federal government are more responsible for the problems of this country than anything else, whether we're talking about fiscal or social issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: You've been internally colonized by whiteness. you get gut hooked by some really dumb shit so im a white half black muslim? your kind just loves putting people is boxes........... that says a lot as well. more do as i say not as I do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SSFB said: Nope, the policies of the federal government are more responsible for the problems of this country than anything else, whether we're talking about fiscal or social issues. The policies of the federal government that is run and controlled by capitalists. Our problems are an outgrowth of the oppressive nature of capitalism. It is only natural that an oppressive force control all means of exertion of power over the population, IE the government. The problem, again, is not government, it is government control in the hands of a few wealthy elites. And how did they get so wealthy that they can buy government? Capitalism. Edited January 21, 2017 by motonoggin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: The policies of the federal government that is run and controlled by capitalists. Our problems are an outgrowth of the oppressive nature of capitalism. It is only natural that an oppressive force control all means of exertion of power over the population, IE the government. The problem, again, is not government, it is government control in the hands of a few wealthy elites. And it is the job of the citizenry to keep the federal government in check which is something I've stated many times. Yet we have people on both side of the aisle who have given their approval to more government power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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