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5 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Yet they have a higher vaccination rate.

So that is why 40% of the hospitalized have been injected . Lol OK 

And again wrong they are around 65 to 70% test subjects 

Edited July 29, 20213 yr by Ez ryder

Just now, Ez ryder said:

So that is why 40% of the hospitalized have been injected . Lol OK 

Are you disputing the fact they have higher vaccination rate? Google is your friend, try it out.

2 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Are you disputing the fact they have higher vaccination rate? Google is your friend, try it out.

Are you disputing the fact that a young healthy person has no chance of dying from covid? Are you disputing the fact that the vaccine doesn’t prevent contraction or transmission and provides zero benefit to those who aren’t vulnerable? 

1 minute ago, f7ben said:

Are you disputing the fact that a young healthy person has no chance of dying from covid? Are you disputing the fact that the vaccine doesn’t prevent contraction or transmission and provides zero benefit to those who aren’t vulnerable? 

1) no, I don’t dispute the fact the healthier younger people fair better 

2) no one ever claimed 0% chance of transmission/contraction

3) absolutely dispute your unsubstantiated claim it provides zero benefit to those who aren’t vulnerable 

4 minutes ago, akvanden said:

1) no, I don’t dispute the fact the healthier younger people fair better 

2) no one ever claimed 0% chance of transmission/contraction

3) absolutely dispute your unsubstantiated claim it provides zero benefit to those who aren’t vulnerable 

Good god man....the onus is on the officials to provide evidence it has any benefit in preventing contraction transmission and since they didn’t even study that it can be surmised that it provides zero protection there. Also the literal thousands and tens of thousands of breakthrough cases confirm as much. 
 

Young healthy people don’t “fair better” , they have a statistical 0 chance of  dying or experiencing life altering symptoms. 
 

The “vaccine” is of no benefit to those who aren’t at risk.

The “vaccine” provides no societal benefit as far as preventing the pandemic from spreading.

The “vaccine” is a therapy and this propagandized push to uselessly inoculate those not at risk is about money at best and likely far more nefarious motives are at play.

Edited July 29, 20213 yr by f7ben

19 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Good god man....the onus is on the officials to provide evidence it has any benefit in preventing contraction transmission and since they didn’t even study that it can be surmised that it provides zero protection there. Also the literal thousands and tens of thousands of breakthrough cases confirm as much. 
 

Young healthy people don’t “fair better” , they have a statistical 0 chance of  dying or experiencing life altering symptoms. 
 

The “vaccine” is of no benefit to those who aren’t at risk.

The “vaccine” provides no societal benefit as far as preventing the pandemic from spreading.

The “vaccine” is a therapy and this propagandized push to uselessly inoculate those not at risk is about money at best and likely far more nefarious motives are at play.

You mean, the evidence that is continually thrown at you that you and others so easily dismiss? "I don't believe that", "don't believe the MSMs" "that's bullshit." 

 

They didn't even study it? You're not aware of the clinical trials all the vaccines had to go through to get EUA from the FDA which in the next few months will be fully authorized? Against the original strain it was 95% effective in preventing positive test, meaning the vaccine was so effective at lowering the viral load that it was untraceable. The lower the viral load, the lower the spread. Have things changed and will things change with Delta and potential future variants? Yes. Does the vaccine still provide a better more predictable response that lowers viral load and hospitalization? Yes. Is EVERY SINGLE MAJOR MEDICAL INSTITUTION still recommending vaccination, even if you've had COVID before, even in the face of the new variants? YES.

Look for yourself.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/landing/covid-19-vaccine

Here's some more evidence, that I've easily repeated multiple times that without a doubt you will dismiss. 9,000 deaths in June from COVID, 90%+ were unvaccinated. And you want people to believe the vaccines has no benefit? There will undoubtedly be very similar numbers for July. 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/e2-80-98devastating-e2-80-99-hospitals-prepare-for-preventable-surge-as-covid-delta-variant-attacks-unvaccinated/ar-AAMG7eX

Since January, Chang said, only seven of more than 1,100 hospitalized patients at Parkland had been vaccinated. In Dallas, those hospitalized are almost exclusively people who have chosen not to get a vaccine. In Dallas County, only 52% of the population over 12 years old has been fully vaccinated, according to county data.

 

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/oregon-hospitals-unvaccinated-covid-frustration/283-e4427ed0-c618-483a-84d1-13fab9542272

"Now we know the science, we have a vaccine. This is a completely preventable problem," said Zonies. "It is taxing. How we know this is people are leaving the profession. They're exhausted. Which ultimately feeds the problem, which is we already have a limited number of beds. And now we can't staff the beds we have, in some cases, because we don't have people to take care of patients."

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/florida-hospital-sees-most-covid-19-patients-since-start-of-pandemic-with-over-90-unvaccinated/

"Florida hospital sees most COVID-19 patients since start of pandemic, with over 90% unvaccinated"

 

Good God man is right.

1 hour ago, akvanden said:

Are you disputing the fact they have higher vaccination rate? Google is your friend, try it out.

Googel lol  that is your biggest mistake in life . Your 2nd is drinking the selected content they are pouring on you .

Why are they banning content from doctors who don't tow the line ? The list is long .

But I really don't give a shit just get ready to roll your sleeves up my guess at lest 1 time a yr for a long long time.  

Why is it that 40% of medical workers remain unvacinated . Why is it the cdc refuses to now tell us what percentage of there workeres have taken the non fda approved tezt drugs ? They were not keeping that a secret before .

 

 

5 minutes ago, Ez ryder said:

Googel lol  that is your biggest mistake in life . Your 2nd is drinking the selected content they are pouring on you .

Why are they banning content from doctors who don't tow the line ? The list is long .

But I really don't give a shit just get ready to roll your sleeves up my guess at lest 1 time a yr for a long long time.  

Why is it that 40% of medical workers remain unvacinated . Why is it the cdc refuses to now tell us what percentage of there workeres have taken the non fda approved tezt drugs ? They were not keeping that a secret before .

 

 

Right, so you don't know what the vaccination rate is for the UK because "no one can be trusted." Excellent.

 

May I ask where you found the 40% then, since MSM and google are not the biggest mistake in your life?

Edited July 29, 20213 yr by akvanden

5 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Right, so you don't know what the vaccination rate is for the UK because "no one can be trusted." Excellent.

 

May I ask where you found the 40% then, since MSM and google are not the biggest mistake in your life?

Lots of info our there lots of doctors and nurses giving interviews that are not allowed on a Google search or the book of faces etc . Some once seen by the masses as extremely reliable doctors and scientists but now ousted for following the science 

1 minute ago, Ez ryder said:

Lots of info our there lots of doctors and nurses giving interviews that are not allowed on a Google search or the book of faces etc . Some once seen by the masses as extremely reliable doctors and scientists but now ousted for following the science 

Lots of doctor and nurse interviews that, in aggregate, are adding up to 40%?

Go look up some Robert Malone interviews 

You know the  inventor of mnra vaccine technology.  One would think he would be a big cheerleader . Prob won't find any of his stuff in a googe search but it is out there 

Just now, akvanden said:

Lots of doctor and nurse interviews that, in aggregate, are adding up to 40%?

There own administrators at some of the hospitals in your city are talking about this 

1 minute ago, Ez ryder said:

There own administrators at some of the hospitals in your city are talking about this 

I certainly don't doubt that people talk. Not sure where we're going with this, or where the 40% came from.

 

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1419867621265137664?s=19

8 hours ago, akvanden said:

I certainly don't doubt that people talk. Not sure where we're going with this, or where the 40% came from.

 

We have a lot of nurses in my family. About half of them don’t want the vax. I think where he’s going is if medical professionals don’t trust it than why should we?

9 hours ago, akvanden said:

You mean, the evidence that is continually thrown at you that you and others so easily dismiss? "I don't believe that", "don't believe the MSMs" "that's bullshit." 

 

They didn't even study it? You're not aware of the clinical trials all the vaccines had to go through to get EUA from the FDA which in the next few months will be fully authorized? Against the original strain it was 95% effective in preventing positive test, meaning the vaccine was so effective at lowering the viral load that it was untraceable. The lower the viral load, the lower the spread. Have things changed and will things change with Delta and potential future variants? Yes. Does the vaccine still provide a better more predictable response that lowers viral load and hospitalization? Yes. Is EVERY SINGLE MAJOR MEDICAL INSTITUTION still recommending vaccination, even if you've had COVID before, even in the face of the new variants? YES.

Look for yourself.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/landing/covid-19-vaccine

Here's some more evidence, that I've easily repeated multiple times that without a doubt you will dismiss. 9,000 deaths in June from COVID, 90%+ were unvaccinated. And you want people to believe the vaccines has no benefit? There will undoubtedly be very similar numbers for July. 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/e2-80-98devastating-e2-80-99-hospitals-prepare-for-preventable-surge-as-covid-delta-variant-attacks-unvaccinated/ar-AAMG7eX

Since January, Chang said, only seven of more than 1,100 hospitalized patients at Parkland had been vaccinated. In Dallas, those hospitalized are almost exclusively people who have chosen not to get a vaccine. In Dallas County, only 52% of the population over 12 years old has been fully vaccinated, according to county data.

 

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/oregon-hospitals-unvaccinated-covid-frustration/283-e4427ed0-c618-483a-84d1-13fab9542272

"Now we know the science, we have a vaccine. This is a completely preventable problem," said Zonies. "It is taxing. How we know this is people are leaving the profession. They're exhausted. Which ultimately feeds the problem, which is we already have a limited number of beds. And now we can't staff the beds we have, in some cases, because we don't have people to take care of patients."

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/florida-hospital-sees-most-covid-19-patients-since-start-of-pandemic-with-over-90-unvaccinated/

"Florida hospital sees most COVID-19 patients since start of pandemic, with over 90% unvaccinated"

 

Good God man is right.

At some point you have to give up on the morons here. Cement heads they are.

3 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

At some point you have to give up on the morons here. Cement heads they are.

 Says the idiot who comes back daily for his beatings  lol

9 hours ago, akvanden said:

You mean, the evidence that is continually thrown at you that you and others so easily dismiss? "I don't believe that", "don't believe the MSMs" "that's bullshit." 

 

They didn't even study it? You're not aware of the clinical trials all the vaccines had to go through to get EUA from the FDA which in the next few months will be fully authorized? Against the original strain it was 95% effective in preventing positive test, meaning the vaccine was so effective at lowering the viral load that it was untraceable. The lower the viral load, the lower the spread. Have things changed and will things change with Delta and potential future variants? Yes. Does the vaccine still provide a better more predictable response that lowers viral load and hospitalization? Yes. Is EVERY SINGLE MAJOR MEDICAL INSTITUTION still recommending vaccination, even if you've had COVID before, even in the face of the new variants? YES.

Look for yourself.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/landing/covid-19-vaccine

Here's some more evidence, that I've easily repeated multiple times that without a doubt you will dismiss. 9,000 deaths in June from COVID, 90%+ were unvaccinated. And you want people to believe the vaccines has no benefit? There will undoubtedly be very similar numbers for July. 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/e2-80-98devastating-e2-80-99-hospitals-prepare-for-preventable-surge-as-covid-delta-variant-attacks-unvaccinated/ar-AAMG7eX

Since January, Chang said, only seven of more than 1,100 hospitalized patients at Parkland had been vaccinated. In Dallas, those hospitalized are almost exclusively people who have chosen not to get a vaccine. In Dallas County, only 52% of the population over 12 years old has been fully vaccinated, according to county data.

 

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/oregon-hospitals-unvaccinated-covid-frustration/283-e4427ed0-c618-483a-84d1-13fab9542272

"Now we know the science, we have a vaccine. This is a completely preventable problem," said Zonies. "It is taxing. How we know this is people are leaving the profession. They're exhausted. Which ultimately feeds the problem, which is we already have a limited number of beds. And now we can't staff the beds we have, in some cases, because we don't have people to take care of patients."

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/florida-hospital-sees-most-covid-19-patients-since-start-of-pandemic-with-over-90-unvaccinated/

"Florida hospital sees most COVID-19 patients since start of pandemic, with over 90% unvaccinated"

 

Good God man is right.

Provide one clinical study that looks at contraction or transmission.

You can’t because they don’t exist

1 hour ago, Edmo said:

We have a lot of nurses in my family. About half of them don’t want the vax. I think where he’s going is if medical professionals don’t trust it than why should we?

I've heard many stories like yours.  Talking to a pharmacist client of mine, who's wife is also a pharmacist.  He's completely anti vax, and she's pro vax.  "I WOULDN"T TAKE THAT VACCINE ON A BET!!"  his exact words.  The divide in the medical community is real, and to pretend otherwise is crazy.   

1 hour ago, Edmo said:

We have a lot of nurses in my family. About half of them don’t want the vax. I think where he’s going is if medical professionals don’t trust it than why should we?

 

Like this one who is speaking out.

 

 

On 2/11/2021 at 9:19 AM, Highmark said:

Not yet but its coming....you just know it is.  Oh and early word will be its far more deadly.

 

Ill be honest.  I got the shots in April and May.  The ONLY reasons I did was to prevent me from screwing over 2 or 3 brides that we would be catering for and to lose the mask.

I'm not playing along with the mask game again.  I did my part and that is it.  I highly doubt I'm going to have my almost 3 YO daughter jabbed for a virus that has killed what less then 100 toddlers nationwide (I don't know the real number).

 

So after Aug 16, Alberta will treat Covid just like the flu.

 

Boy did some of us call it early on.  

 

 

 

 

57 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Provide one clinical study that looks at contraction or transmission.

You can’t because they don’t exist

1) The very first clinical studies that allowed the FDA to grant EUA speaks to contraction - 95% efficacy, remember those?

2) Logically speaking, if you had less of the virus in your body, you'd be less infectious. 

 

But since we're past logic, here's a study for you.

 

"Two studies from Israel, posted as preprints on 16 July, find that two doses of the vaccine made by pharmaceutical company Pfizer, based in New York City, and biotechnology company BioNTech, based in Mainz, Germany, are 81% effective at preventing SARS-CoV-2 infections. And vaccinated people who do get infected are up to 78% less likely to spread the virus to household members than are unvaccinated people. Overall, this adds up to very high protection against transmission, say researchers."

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02054-z