Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 22, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, ACE said: You have to be a brain dead retard to think that the vaccine could offer even close to the same level of protection that natural immunity does natural immunity literally gives you the exact antibodies that you need. The reinfection rate is around a tenth of a percent, meaning you will not get sick with it again nowhere, ever, not even once, did they claim that you will not develop covid if you get vaccinated. the Covid fear cult are literally the dumbest, most anti science fucking retards on earth Far, far less than a tenth of a percent. They can't even say for sure if you can get it twice. I'm sure we would have seen some HC workers getting it twice before the jab came out. If it was even remotely common for re-infection they would be screaming the statistics from the mountain tops. Edited July 22, 2021 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Highmark said: Far, far less than a tenth of a percent. They can't even say for sure if you can get it twice. I'm sure we would have seen some HC workers getting it twice before the jab came out. If it was even remotely common for re-infection they would be screaming the statistics from the mountain tops. Well I mean while you can get infected to the point of having symptoms again if you have natural immunity it’s HIGHLY improbable. One really has to watch how they word headlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 22, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, ACE said: Well I mean while you can get infected to the point of having symptoms again if you have natural immunity it’s HIGHLY improbable. One really has to watch how they word headlines One article I found is they think about 50.....worldwide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Just now, Highmark said: One article I found is they think about 50.....worldwide. The PCR test up to 40+ cycles is to blame for a lot of this basically made covid a self fulfilling prophecy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 22, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ACE said: The PCR test up to 40+ cycles is to blame for a lot of this basically made covid a self fulfilling prophecy Yep. Actually >30 was. Its multiplication factor is exponentially higher. Edited July 22, 2021 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: Yep. Actually >30 was. Its multiplication factor is exponentially higher. In court the experts here (who work for the government) said that anything over 20 cycles was not indicative of an active infection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, ACE said: Yeah. That’s where it comes from Actual science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 3 hours ago, ACE said: You have to be a brain dead retard to think that the vaccine could offer even close to the same level of protection that natural immunity does natural immunity literally gives you the exact antibodies that you need. The reinfection rate is around a tenth of a percent, meaning you will not get sick with it again nowhere, ever, not even once, did they claim that you will not develop covid if you get vaccinated. the Covid fear cult are literally the dumbest, most anti science fucking retards on earth 1 hour ago, f7ben said: Correct No. Over 90% of the the hospitalizations and deaths are non vaccinated now. Fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Tinker still doesn’t know what natural antibodies means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Just now, ACE said: Tinker still doesn’t know what natural antibodies means You telling me or anybody anything about anything is fucking funny. I've always presumed I'd already had Covid, I still did everything to reduce spreading it and when my doctor said antibodies weren't enough I got my shots. And now look at the numbers !!.... Oh yeah we don't look at facts here BTW I got Shingles twice, once at 16 and again around 28 so you're wrong about that too. Go figure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 John Hopkins, University of Chicago Medicine, Mayo. Why COVID-19 Vaccines Offer Better Protection Than Infection Vaccination offers longer, stronger immunity, says virologist Sabra Klein. https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection.html Do I still need the vaccine if I’ve already had COVID-19?: Absolutely. https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefront/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/do-i-need-a-vaccine-if-i-had-covid "Natural immunity to coronaviruses, such as those that cause colds, is not long-lasting, and reinfection is possible," says John O'Horo, M.D., an infectious diseases physician at Mayo Clinic. https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/featured-topic/recent-infection-could-affect-covid-19-vaccination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 hours ago, BOHICA said: As effective or very similar protection as the vax that are available to US. Another scientific fact to come out of the same study that even retards can understand. “This study also showed that CoronaVac reduced hospitalizations by 87.5%, intensive care unit (ICU) admissions by 90.3%, and mortality rates by 86.3%.” By the way, you forgot the first number in the study (65.9%) that would compare to the 95% of our mRNA vaccines. So Chinese quality not very similar. A large observational study in Chile further estimated that full immunization with CoronaVac had adjusted vaccine effectiveness of 65.9% for the prevention of COVID-19, 87.5% for hospitalization, 90.3% for ICU admission, and 86.3% for death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 22, 2021 Author Gold Member Share Posted July 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, akvanden said: By the way, you forgot the first number in the study (65.9%) that would compare to the 95% of our mRNA vaccines. So Chinese quality not very similar. A large observational study in Chile further estimated that full immunization with CoronaVac had adjusted vaccine effectiveness of 65.9% for the prevention of COVID-19, 87.5% for hospitalization, 90.3% for ICU admission, and 86.3% for death What is the effectiveness of mRNA vaccines in the US in preventing infection???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, BOHICA said: What is the effectiveness of mRNA vaccines in the US in preventing infection???? Let me go back and look at what I said - oh yeah, 95%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, akvanden said: Let me go back and look at what I said - oh yeah, 95%. Bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, f7ben said: Bullshit No kidding! How do 9 fully vaccinated ball players on the same team, being isolated, distancing, masking, etc come down with covid, and less than 2 months later, 6 fully fully vaccinated from the same team also come down with covid? 95% efficacy rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, f7ben said: Bullshit I was just as surprised as you! Pretty amazing what vaccines can do these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 hours ago, akvanden said: How’s the circle jerk going, boys? The last 15 reassuring posts... IRV IRV ACE ACE IRV ACE Arctic ACE ACE F7 Arctic Ace Arctic Arctic ACE You could learn something from those posts though....but it won't validate your choice... 33 minutes ago, akvanden said: John Hopkins, University of Chicago Medicine, Mayo. Why COVID-19 Vaccines Offer Better Protection Than Infection Vaccination offers longer, stronger immunity, says virologist Sabra Klein. https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection.html Do I still need the vaccine if I’ve already had COVID-19?: Absolutely. https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefront/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/do-i-need-a-vaccine-if-i-had-covid "Natural immunity to coronaviruses, such as those that cause colds, is not long-lasting, and reinfection is possible," says John O'Horo, M.D., an infectious diseases physician at Mayo Clinic. https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/featured-topic/recent-infection-could-affect-covid-19-vaccination ......or help with your fear. But I get it...nobody wants to admit they are scared when they've been ordered to be so. There's nothing wrong with being scared and making a decision you feel will help you live. Others are doing the same...just not the way you are doing it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 22, 2021 Author Gold Member Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, akvanden said: Let me go back and look at what I said - oh yeah, 95%. What percentage of US vaccinated Texas Democrats tested positive after 1 couple hour plane ride…. Hint it’s not 95% prevented……. also you are a retard to think that the remaining 49 of the famous 55 wouldn’t test positive if tested once a week over the next few months Edited July 22, 2021 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, akvanden said: Let me go back and look at what I said - oh yeah, 95%. There's no way the vaccine has been out long enough to come up with this number. No way. The statistical plug ins being used are no doubt using old test numbers including false positives and the lowest thresh hold of the virus.....not even sure what they plugged in for the rest of the statistics that make it sound scientific. Potato + 4/yellow X 3.14=95% Got it. "Science". Come on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 22, 2021 Author Gold Member Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: There's no way the vaccine has been out long enough to come up with this number. No way. The statistical plug ins being used are no doubt using old test numbers including false positives and the lowest thresh hold of the virus.....not even sure what they plugged in for the rest of the statistics that make it sound scientific. Potato + 4/yellow X 3.14=95% Got it. "Science". Come on. Simple math says it’s not…. 1 controlled study of Texas Democrats completely blows 95% prevention claim out of the water. Liberals don’t math much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, BOHICA said: Simple math says it’s not…. 1 controlled study of Texas Democrats completely blows 95% prevention claim out of the water. Liberals don’t math much Poor Pelosi and Schumer....took some Texas eggs to the face...HARD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: There's no way the vaccine has been out long enough to come up with this number. No way. The statistical plug ins being used are no doubt using old test numbers including false positives and the lowest thresh hold of the virus.....not even sure what they plugged in for the rest of the statistics that make it sound scientific. Potato + 4/yellow X 3.14=95% Got it. "Science". Come on. So we start the thread with a Thai study and all accept the fact that they have a high efficacy rate (the Chinese vaccine has to have a high efficacy rate to validate the main point) but the call BS when the efficacy rate of the US vaccines are introduced. Well which way do you want it? - are the efficacy rates high or are they low? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 22, 2021 Author Gold Member Share Posted July 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, akvanden said: So we start the thread with a Thai study and all accept the fact that they have a high efficacy rate (the Chinese vaccine has to have a high efficacy rate to validate the main point) but the call BS when the efficacy rate of the US vaccines are introduced. Well which way do you want it? - are the efficacy rates high or are they low? Israel did a study as well. The one of the most vaccinated country in the world come out and said that natural antibodies out perform vaccine antibodies. our pharmaceutical industry would like you to believe otherwise cause they get paid by the dose 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Israel did a study as well. The one of the most vaccinated country in the world come out and said that natural antibodies out perform vaccine antibodies. our pharmaceutical industry would like you to believe otherwise cause they get paid by the dose Exactly! This whole pandemic non sense has been nothing but a big lie from the beginning, and that is easily proven. Now, the new narrative, to keep things going, is by telling us the vast majority of covid cases are due to the unvaccinated. When will it stop? Lie after lie, flip flop after flip flop, manipulation after manipulation, coercion after coercion. I wish someone could tell me when has the gov't "ever" pushed a vaccine, or anything, on the people like they have with this one, especially with a survivability rate of 98-99%??? It makes no sense whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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