Crnr2Crnr Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 Will the Mach be quicker to 1000 than the TCat or SRX? How badly will they mph the new Mach? Maybe @ACE wants to get in on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 The mach with that two step holeshot start program might be tough to be. As nsp Rick taught me it's all about the 0-60'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, mnstang said: The mach with that two step holeshot start program might be tough to be. As nsp Rick taught me it's all about the 0-60'. The holeshot option might not come due to chip shortage. Someone mentioned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: The holeshot option might not come due to chip shortage. Someone mentioned it. Maybe next year, oh wait it's a one year model if you believe that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 If Doo has anti-lag, the YamaCats won’t catch it in 1000’. By 1200-1320’ though, I’ll bet it’s a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: If Doo has anti-lag, the YamaCats won’t catch it in 1000’. By 1200-1320’ though, I’ll bet it’s a different story. Launch Mode activate Also, as long as they supposedly toss them on a dyno it would be nice to publish dry weight straight out of the crate. Cat riders got more weight from power steering and incredible 60th anniversary graphics and paint. Let's toss the Yamaha marketing department in here as well. Edited October 11, 2021 by Crnr2Crnr Word adding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I noticed the lynx 600 enduro doesn't list weight either. Do any of them? Why are they so afraid to post weights? Lame. I know when the firecat (F7) came out, cat was very braggadocios about "power to weight". Didn't hear much about that when twin spar came out or any sled afterwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, mnstang said: I noticed the lynx 600 enduro doesn't list weight either. Do any of them? Why are they so afraid to post weights? Lame. I know when the firecat (F7) came out, cat was very braggadocios about "power to weight". Didn't hear much about that when twin spar came out or any sled afterwards Assume it's a little less than a similar MXZ, but the Enduro doesn't have estart like the RXC and Cross Country. Wish they all would. It's relevant in a straight line race. Strength to weight which is an aspect that Cat may have in it's favor as their chassis has to cradle and Biden the weight of 2s & 4s engines, unlike Polaris which based on memory always listed the lowest dry weights. Edited October 11, 2021 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, mnstang said: I noticed the lynx 600 enduro doesn't list weight either. Do any of them? Why are they so afraid to post weights? Lame. I know when the firecat (F7) came out, cat was very braggadocios about "power to weight". Didn't hear much about that when twin spar came out or any sled afterwards Cat made a big deal out of how much less their mountain sleds weighed when loaded with snow, than the competitions sleds, a few years back. It was such a non deal breaker that they dropped it shortly thereafter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: Cat made a big deal out of how much less their mountain sleds weighed when loaded with snow, than the competitions sleds, a few years back. It was such a non deal breaker that they dropped it shortly thereafter. When does the patent end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Assume it's a little less than a similar MXZ, but the Enduro doesn't have estart like the RXC and Cross Country. Wish they all would. It's relevant in a straight line race. Strength to weight which is an aspect that Cat may have in it's favor as their chassis has to cradle and Biden the weight of 2s & 4s engines, unlike Polaris which based on memory always listed the lowest dry weights. It's relevant in every single part of riding, not just straight line racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, mnstang said: It's relevant in every single part of riding, not just straight line racing true, but would you be willing to sacrifice added weight for additional durability? (assuming one or the conditions they ride in is actually physically hard on their machine.) speaking for myself, I'd prefer a little piece of mind and a happy balance between the two with an added nod towards durability in a short riding season. this said, if the chassis is a real performer and you had to add bracing structure to it would that trouble you? we've seen this play out previously with Doo's and Poo's, and the b-Last as they aren't initially engineered for the rigors of racing or perpetual abuse. give take ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palu49 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: true, but would you be willing to sacrifice added weight for additional durability? (assuming one or the conditions they ride in is actually physically hard on their machine.) speaking for myself, I'd prefer a little piece of mind and a happy balance between the two with an added nod towards durability in a short riding season. this said, if the chassis is a real performer and you had to add bracing structure to it would that trouble you? we've seen this play out previously with Doo's and Poo's, and the b-Last as they aren't initially engineered for the rigors of racing or perpetual abuse. give take ? Do they make bracing kits for the blasts? I think my new winter goal is find one on copart and build a blast “RR” with good shocks and a ZR front end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Palu49 said: Do they make bracing kits for the blasts? I think my new winter goal is find one on copart and build a blast “RR” with good shocks and a ZR front end. https://www.arcticinsider.com/tech-tip-upgrading-your-blast-zr-for-competition/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 12 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: true, but would you be willing to sacrifice added weight for additional durability? (assuming one or the conditions they ride in is actually physically hard on their machine.) speaking for myself, I'd prefer a little piece of mind and a happy balance between the two with an added nod towards durability in a short riding season. this said, if the chassis is a real performer and you had to add bracing structure to it would that trouble you? we've seen this play out previously with Doo's and Poo's, and the b-Last as they aren't initially engineered for the rigors of racing or perpetual abuse. give take ? Just because something is heavy doesn't mean it's durable and just because something is light doesn't mean it's not durable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 Doo, making things interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 SpEeeD winZ raCes….not ET!!!! What are the dyno numbers? What oil were they using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommcat Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Zambroski said: SpEeeD winZ raCes….not ET!!!! What are the dyno numbers? What oil were they using? It will run the numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 35 minutes ago, Tommcat said: It will run the numbers This isn’t some backyard race somewhere in Fingerfuck, NH!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, Zambroski said: This isn’t some backyard race somewhere in Fingerfuck, NH!!!!! Yeah a Certain 2001 xc600 wins all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommcat Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Zambroski said: This isn’t some backyard race somewhere in Fingerfuck, NH!!!!! Iron dog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 10/11/2021 at 4:29 PM, mnstang said: I noticed the lynx 600 enduro doesn't list weight either. Do any of them? Why are they so afraid to post weights? Lame. I know when the firecat (F7) came out, cat was very braggadocios about "power to weight". Didn't hear much about that when twin spar came out or any sled afterwards I know the lynx in general are heavier than the skidoos. One of the big thing the dealer pointed out when I was shopping for one. They use beefed up parts in them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Doo, making things interesting... That's only about 20 HP down for the turbo four stroke class (and ugly). Congrats to them for closing the gap to a mere 20hp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Precision efi just dynoed the 2022 doo turbo. It came in at 192hp. The srx they were getting 204hp and it’s about 40 pounds heavier than the doo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Whats my Cat 600 dyno at? It's a rxc though so.....20% more with the XRS factor!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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