jtssrx Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, ACE said: No it’s not it’s a cable to a block and then still DBW Wrong!!! the g4 is completely different than the XP i owned an xp and an XS it’s different. cats pile of shit Procross chassis is ten years old and rides like a lumber wagon. Owned a 2019 srx. Outside of being fast it was a piece of garbage Edited February 18, 2021 by jtssrx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis and Butt-Head Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, jtssrx said: Wrong!!! the g4 is completely different than the XP i owned an xp and an XS it’s different. cats pile of shit Procross chassis is ten years old and rides like a lumber wagon. Owned a 2019 srx. Outside of being fast it was a piece of garbage I remember that one, pics you posted it looked really good.. so you actually sold that srx ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, jdsky said: I put four seasons on my 16' 1200 in the XS chassis and really liked it but one test ride on the 900T in the G4 chassis and it's better in every way. I also followed the journey of the Canadian that put over 20K miles on his 19' 900T the first season with zero issues. The 900T has been proven over and over as a rock solid reliable motor on dirt, asphalt, water and snow. You can get an NA 1200 to 150 in the way you stated but you cannot get it to 190HP plus as easily and cheaply as you can with the 900T. Absolutely. Fantastic motor, and the honey hole of proper power/weight ratio for the optimal trail sled. I'd love to see an off trail version ala YZ400f, meaning a viable 4 stroke motocross bike/offtrail snowmobile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeadoo Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 6 hours ago, ACE said: Ski doo is still on the same chassis since 08 so Ride an xp then a G4 (stands for 4th generation REV for dummies) and you will immediately notice it's a totally different sled. Far different than the 08 XP cat copied and still uses.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Beavis and Butt-Head said: I remember that one, pics you posted it looked really good.. so you actually sold that srx ? Road it twice and hated it. The motor was sweet but outside of that it was zero fun to ride compared to a skidoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 8 hours ago, Blackstar said: I was all set to buy the regular 900 for the wife now I'm thinking the 130 version would be nicer. $1500 premium in the Enduro but I'm think that is the way to go. My buddy likes to go out a couple times a year with me and I'm sure he'd prefer the 130. If I like it it may be my next sled too. I love my turbo Cat but the big motor thing is starting to wear thin with me. I need a ride review on that 130. Only worry is the touch throttle I hear about on the 900T. 180/130 have a new cable/ drive by wire hybrid system. I like the dbw on my 2019 900. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 6 hours ago, Mikeadoo said: Ride an xp then a G4 (stands for 4th generation REV for dummies) and you will immediately notice it's a totally different sled. Far different than the 08 XP cat copied and still uses.... Was nice of brp to allow cat to sell that copy to it's Canadian customers this season. Especially after they were found guilty in a court of law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 8 hours ago, Fireball 440 said: A used 1200 with exhaust and clutching and a fuel controller and you're all set for 150 hp, without the turbo bullshit. They make that in a g4? I'm not going backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdsky Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, awful knawful said: 180/130 have a new cable/ drive by wire hybrid system. I like the dbw on my 2019 900. They caved for pussies that kept complaining about the cable free system so now they can pull on a physical cable again. Just stupid in my book. I have had iTC on three sleds now, two of them my primary rides, for nearly 6 seasons and with zero issues but I have always just ridden a sled. It could have a twist throttle like my dirt bikes or even a foot peddle like an auto and I would still just ride it while the pussies would all find something to complain about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 13 hours ago, Ez ryder said: So are a set of notched weights a lot cheaper if you want launch control That’s not how turbos work dummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, f7ben said: That’s not how turbos work dummy Wonder where doo will put the button? I'd guess it be on the left hand Edited February 18, 2021 by Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, Dave said: Wonder where doo will put the button? They use the brake lever....it’s not optimal. Testing on the cat and Yamahas found the brake lever to be a few tenths of a second slower to release then a momentary button Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 hours ago, jdsky said: They caved for pussies that kept complaining about the cable free system so now they can pull on a physical cable again. Just stupid in my book. I have had iTC on three sleds now, two of them my primary rides, for nearly 6 seasons and with zero issues but I have always just ridden a sled. It could have a twist throttle like my dirt bikes or even a foot peddle like an auto and I would still just ride it while the pussies would all find something to complain about. I love DBW, not sure what other peoples issues with it were. The programmable drive modes are also sweet. I can see why it would be hard to adapt to for some who hasn't spent a bunch of time on a 4 stroke sled, but this turbo was my 4th 4 stroke, and I had no issues adapting to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, f7ben said: They use the brake lever....it’s not optimal. Testing on the cat and Yamahas found the brake lever to be a few tenths of a second slower to release then a momentary button Ya I've got a button for it on my sxs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 12 hours ago, Dave said: It's similar as are most of the other manufacurers chassis, it has a tunnel engine cradle, overstructure and suspension all of which are completely different than in 08. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dave said: Ya I've got a button for it on my sxs Yup....I’ve got the button Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 12 hours ago, jtssrx said: Wrong!!! the g4 is completely different than the XP i owned an xp and an XS it’s different. cats pile of shit Procross chassis is ten years old and rides like a lumber wagon. Owned a 2019 srx. Outside of being fast it was a piece of garbage Doos chassis is literally from 2008. That’s 14 years on the same chassis. No thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 4 hours ago, jdsky said: They caved for pussies that kept complaining about the cable free system so now they can pull on a physical cable again. Just stupid in my book. I have had iTC on three sleds now, two of them my primary rides, for nearly 6 seasons and with zero issues but I have always just ridden a sled. It could have a twist throttle like my dirt bikes or even a foot peddle like an auto and I would still just ride it while the pussies would all find something to complain about. Doos DBW system is total shit. Hopefully their revamp helps a little bit I doubt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Mikeadoo said: Ride an xp then a G4 (stands for 4th generation REV for dummies) and you will immediately notice it's a totally different sled. Far different than the 08 XP cat copied and still uses.... Ride a Gen 1 procross then hop on a gen2. They also feel totally different m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, DriftBusta said: I love DBW, not sure what other peoples issues with it were. The programmable drive modes are also sweet. I can see why it would be hard to adapt to for some who hasn't spent a bunch of time on a 4 stroke sled, but this turbo was my 4th 4 stroke, and I had no issues adapting to it. Drove a sidewinder for a while, zero throttle issues hopped on a 900T and the throttle control is complete laggy garbage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, ACE said: Ride a Gen 1 procross then hop on a gen2. They also feel totally different m. How many generations does the procross have? 30? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, awful knawful said: How many generations does the procross have? 30? A lot less than doo does on the same chassis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, ACE said: A lot less than doo does on the same chassis So they haven't changed a fucking thing since 2012? Just a bad copy of an old XP. Got it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, awful knawful said: So they haven't changed a fucking thing since 2012? Just a bad copy of an old XP. Got it. Doo? They changed a few things but it was mostly token Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 hours ago, f7ben said: That’s not how turbos work dummy Lol so are you telling me turbo drag sleds dont use notched weights ? News flash to me .ihave not seen 1 with out them yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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