ICEMAN! Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, Snake said: The Electoral College is a process, not a place. The founding fathers established it in the Constitution as a compromise between election of the President by a vote in Congress and election of the President by a popular vote of qualified citizens. https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/about.html Idiot fucking Nooks think they know..... Haha, it's cute how you think you're adding something new and relevant to the discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Just now, ICEMAN! said: Haha, it's cute how you think you're adding something new and relevant to the discussion. Who am I gonna believe, the National Archives, or a fucking bisexual from Canada. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleroule Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 27 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: swing and miss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 14 minutes ago, Snake said: Who am I gonna believe, the National Archives, or a fucking bisexual from Canada. How about quotes from the actual founding fathers? The reason that the Constitution calls for this extra layer, rather than just providing for the direct election of the president, is that most of the nation’s founders were actually rather afraid of democracy. James Madison worried about what he called “factions,” which he defined as groups of citizens who have a common interest in some proposal that would either violate the rights of other citizens or would harm the nation as a whole. Madison’s fear – which Alexis de Tocqueville later dubbed “the tyranny of the majority” – was that a faction could grow to encompass more than 50 percent of the population, at which point it could “sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens.” Madison has a solution for tyranny of the majority: “A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking.” As Alexander Hamilton writes in “The Federalist Papers,” the Constitution is designed to ensure “that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.” The point of the Electoral College is to preserve “the sense of the people,” while at the same time ensuring that a president is chosen “by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.” http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-reason-for-the-electoral-college/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, oleroule said: swing and miss Swing and a fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 3 hours ago, Sludgey said: Anonymous claimed all kinds of shit during the election and it never happened. Their record isn't very good, not sure why anyone would give them the time of day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 20 minutes ago, Snake said: Who am I gonna believe, the National Archives, or a fucking bisexual trans-gendered from Canada. Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 All Americans should blush a little with Canadians almost gross crush on america 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 16 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: How about quotes from the actual founding fathers? The reason that the Constitution calls for this extra layer, rather than just providing for the direct election of the president, is that most of the nation’s founders were actually rather afraid of democracy. James Madison worried about what he called “factions,” which he defined as groups of citizens who have a common interest in some proposal that would either violate the rights of other citizens or would harm the nation as a whole. Madison’s fear – which Alexis de Tocqueville later dubbed “the tyranny of the majority” – was that a faction could grow to encompass more than 50 percent of the population, at which point it could “sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens.” Madison has a solution for tyranny of the majority: “A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking.” As Alexander Hamilton writes in “The Federalist Papers,” the Constitution is designed to ensure “that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.” The point of the Electoral College is to preserve “the sense of the people,” while at the same time ensuring that a president is chosen “by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.” http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-reason-for-the-electoral-college/ The National Archives, or Factcheck. Tough call... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 2 hours ago, Snake said: Anonymous said the Clinton child sex tape was coming out. I bet youll watch it. 2-3 times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, Anler said: I bet youll watch it. 2-3 times... Keep me out of your sexual fantasies, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleroule Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, ICEMAN! said: How about quotes from the actual founding fathers? The reason that the Constitution calls for this extra layer, rather than just providing for the direct election of the president, is that most of the nation’s founders were actually rather afraid of democracy. James Madison worried about what he called “factions,” which he defined as groups of citizens who have a common interest in some proposal that would either violate the rights of other citizens or would harm the nation as a whole. Madison’s fear – which Alexis de Tocqueville later dubbed “the tyranny of the majority” – was that a faction could grow to encompass more than 50 percent of the population, at which point it could “sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens.” Madison has a solution for tyranny of the majority: “A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking.” As Alexander Hamilton writes in “The Federalist Papers,” the Constitution is designed to ensure “that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.” The point of the Electoral College is to preserve “the sense of the people,” while at the same time ensuring that a president is chosen “by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.” http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-reason-for-the-electoral-college/ you just owned yourself, idiot. Edited December 7, 2016 by oleroule 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, oleroule said: you just owned yourself, idiot. No shit, what a dumbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zambroski Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 2 hours ago, oleroule said: you just owned yourself, idiot. If you leave these retards alone long enough, they all do it. Well, except for MC. He "owns himself" every third or forth post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted December 8, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 8, 2016 3 hours ago, Anler said: I bet youll watch it. 2-3 times... So will you and Vince while playing tummy sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Biggie Smails said: So will you and Vince while playing tummy sticks. You jelly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 5 hours ago, ICEMAN! said: How about quotes from the actual founding fathers? The reason that the Constitution calls for this extra layer, rather than just providing for the direct election of the president, is that most of the nation’s founders were actually rather afraid of democracy. James Madison worried about what he called “factions,” which he defined as groups of citizens who have a common interest in some proposal that would either violate the rights of other citizens or would harm the nation as a whole. Madison’s fear – which Alexis de Tocqueville later dubbed “the tyranny of the majority” – was that a faction could grow to encompass more than 50 percent of the population, at which point it could “sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens.” Madison has a solution for tyranny of the majority: “A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking.” As Alexander Hamilton writes in “The Federalist Papers,” the Constitution is designed to ensure “that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.” The point of the Electoral College is to preserve “the sense of the people,” while at the same time ensuring that a president is chosen “by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.” http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-reason-for-the-electoral-college/ Fascinating. I bet thats the 273rd time I've read those quotes. Riveting. Democrats lost. Trump is going to be our president. Good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 4 hours ago, oleroule said: you just owned yourself, idiot. As Alexander Hamilton writes in “The Federalist Papers,” the Constitution is designed to ensure “that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.” Hey stupid, that's the definition of an escape valve so no, I'm not wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) 15 hours ago, ICEMAN! said: Why would patriots object to EC voters exercising their constitutional right to vote the best way they see fit? That was the whole point of the EC to act as an escape valve on the electoral process to keep someone out of office who isn't fit. This has happened four times before. The problem today is people are more informed with TV and the internet. Im not sure this would be allowed to happen today. If trump was elected 75 years ago the electoral college may pick someone else . I just can't see it happening today. I think that's why you see these shame recounts. The Michigan recount is dead now. Wayne county where Detroit is was going to have to give up 2/3 of the votes because of fraud. The democrats gave in because Trump was going to win Michigan in a landslide. He's also gaining votes in Wisconsin. Edited December 8, 2016 by jtssrx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 you guys need to get a life. this shit ain't gonna happen. jesus christ....i really do think that i'm the only sane individual here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 Odds on him being sworn in? Odds on him if he does get sworn in making it a year before getting a bullet or "cancer"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, spin_dry said: you guys need to get a life. this shit ain't gonna happen. jesus christ....i really do think that i'm the only sane individual here. Good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 minute ago, bussman said: Odds on him being sworn in? Odds on him if he does get sworn in making it a year before getting a bullet or "cancer"? odds of him creating a surge of troops in the middle east/afghanistan ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 Just now, spin_dry said: odds of him creating a surge of troops in the middle east/afghanistan ?? < Hillary would of by at least 20-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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