Arizona, Florida, Texas

[Jimmy Snacks]

Houston hospitals nearing capacity but let’s politicize the wearing of masks and argue about it...idiots.

[Anler]

At any rate.. Looks like deaths are dropping pretty hard. Open up!

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR3TyJIKMbx-pb_yFhOpIFkVHBYXCLhEnMnZpFG49qqXlKQKgwqp3NYQbyg

Table 1. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by week ending date, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 6/20/2020.*

Updated June 25, 2020

Week ending date in which the death occurred	All Deaths involving COVID-19 (U07.1)1	Deaths from All Causes	Percent of Expected Deaths2	Deaths involving Pneumonia, with or without COVID-19, excluding Influenza deaths (J12.0–J18.9)3	Deaths involving COVID-19 and Pneumonia, excluding Influenza (U07.1 and J12.0–J18.9)3	All Deaths involving Influenza, with or without COVID-19 or Pneumonia (J09–J11), includes COVID-19 or Pneumonia4	Deaths involving Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19 (U07.1 or J09–J18.9)5
Total Deaths	108,684	1,223,289	105	118,510	47,017	6,455	185,695
2/1/2020	1	58,158	98	3,765	0	476	4,242
2/8/2020	1	58,729	98	3,751	0	515	4,267
2/15/2020	0	57,880	98	3,767	0	549	4,316
2/22/2020	5	57,855	100	3,639	1	557	4,200
2/29/2020	5	58,241	101	3,761	3	637	4,400
3/7/2020	33	58,503	101	3,898	16	620	4,534
3/14/2020	52	57,417	101	3,883	27	611	4,518
3/21/2020	549	58,054	102	4,464	245	542	5,304
3/28/2020	3,051	62,057	111	6,048	1,376	439	8,112
4/4/2020	9,502	70,816	127	9,624	4,543	461	14,821
4/11/2020	15,695	77,467	140	11,707	7,028	468	20,504
4/18/2020	16,346	74,815	138	10,985	6,990	260	20,415
4/25/2020	14,095	70,968	132	9,704	6,034	143	17,812
5/2/2020	11,665	65,826	123	8,227	4,937	62	14,997
5/9/2020	10,740	63,460	120	7,485	4,547	46	13,715
5/16/2020	8,753	59,862	114	6,370	3,623	19	11,516
5/23/2020	6,647	55,954	107	5,380	2,784	20	9,261
5/30/2020	5,396	52,537	101	4,609	2,187	10	7,828
6/6/2020	3,834	48,324	91	3,879	1,659	10	6,064
6/13/2020	1,943	37,700	69	2,485	854	7	3,579
6/20/2020	371	18,666	31	1,079	163	3	1,290

NOTE: Number of deaths reported in this table are the total number of deaths received and coded as of the date of analysis and do not represent all deaths that occurred in that period. Counts of deaths occurring before or after the reporting period are not included in the table. The United States population, based on 2018 postcensal estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau, is 327,167,434.

*Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more, depending on the jurisdiction and cause of death.

¹Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1

²Percent of expected deaths is the number of deaths for all causes for this week in 2020 compared to the average number across the same week in 2017–2019. Previous analyses of 2015–2016 provisional data completeness have found that completeness is lower in the first few weeks following the date of death (<25%), and then increases over time such that data are generally at least 75% complete within 8 weeks of when the death occurred (8).

³Counts of deaths involving pneumonia include pneumonia deaths that aso involve COVID-19 and exclude pneumonia deaths involving influenza.

⁴Counts of deaths involving influenza include deaths with pneumonia or COVID-19 also listed as a cause of death.

⁵Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, pneumonia, or influenza, coded to ICD–10 codes U07.1 or J09–J18.9.

 

Table 2. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by jurisdiction of occurrence, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 6/20/2020.*

Updated June 25, 2020

Jurisdiction of Occurrence	All Deaths involving COVID-19 (U07.1)1	Deaths from All Causes	Percent of Expected Deaths2	Deaths involving Pneumonia, with or without COVID-19, excluding Influenza deaths (J12.0–J18.9)3	Deaths involving COVID-19 and Pneumonia, excluding Influenza (J12.0–J18.9 and U07.1)3	All Deaths involving Influenza, with or without COVID-19 or Pneumonia (J09–J11)4	Deaths involving Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19 (U07.1 or J09–J18.9)5
United States6	108,684	1,223,289	105	118,510	47,017	6,455	185,695
Alabama	855	21,359	98	1,446	254	94	2,138
Alaska	-	1,533	89	70	-	-	81
Arizona	1,136	26,901	109	2,138	592	112	2,794
Arkansas	180	12,767	98	866	68	75	1,053
California	4,730	113,411	102	10,412	2,637	575	13,079
Colorado	1,475	17,872	111	1,705	761	95	2,509
Connecticut	3,452	10,958	85	1,273	791	68	4,000
Delaware	441	3,649	98	325	165	16	617
District of Columbia	514	2,943	119	671	510	-	683
Florida	2,802	88,695	103	6,820	1,433	307	8,487
Georgia	1,927	34,589	100	2,619	869	109	3,785
Hawaii	16	4,544	95	293	-	20	323
Idaho	88	5,766	99	277	25	25	365
Illinois	5,806	50,333	116	5,886	2,947	176	8,918
Indiana	2,228	27,541	100	2,754	932	130	4,176
Iowa	651	12,320	100	917	187	84	1,465
Kansas	235	10,588	98	709	101	89	932
Kentucky	488	18,333	93	1,699	247	97	2,036
Louisiana	2,529	19,972	107	1,995	1,172	71	3,418
Maine	106	5,968	100	437	25	31	549
Maryland	3,056	23,975	118	2,598	1,149	125	4,614
Massachusetts	7,111	31,273	128	4,467	2,575	161	9,156
Michigan	5,123	44,782	113	4,956	2,541	238	7,772
Minnesota	1,257	19,179	106	1,496	363	121	2,510
Mississippi	853	13,727	107	1,377	400	51	1,881
Missouri	816	25,519	97	1,632	277	176	2,347
Montana	17	3,981	92	208	-	34	256
Nebraska	194	6,514	94	503	67	28	658
Nevada	439	10,722	100	975	322	39	1,131
New Hampshire	315	5,331	106	386	93	30	637
New Jersey	12,678	45,122	147	8,545	6,226	117	15,100
New Mexico	364	7,365	95	568	150	29	811
New York7	10,301	52,310	128	8,559	5,037	206	14,012
New York City	19,025	46,829	213	9,782	7,365	945	21,570
North Carolina	750	28,534	73	2,016	281	225	2,708
North Dakota	65	2,286	79	200	22	19	262
Ohio	2,103	47,318	93	3,200	887	253	4,668
Oklahoma	352	15,039	92	1,344	135	106	1,662
Oregon	189	14,243	95	719	71	64	900
Pennsylvania	6,448	54,569	98	4,989	2,376	190	9,248
Rhode Island	779	4,582	106	506	302	25	1,008
South Carolina	550	20,619	103	1,309	216	98	1,740
South Dakota	78	3,008	90	245	33	26	316
Tennessee	413	29,996	96	2,191	172	127	2,559
Texas	2,024	82,442	100	6,303	885	340	7,779
Utah	143	7,866	102	434	52	40	565
Vermont	53	2,421	103	143	12	16	200
Virginia	1,658	29,516	105	1,856	560	111	3,063
Washington	1,070	22,848	98	1,846	569	110	2,452
West Virginia	91	7,227	78	536	29	58	656
Wisconsin	685	22,279	103	1,192	115	150	1,910
Wyoming	16	1,825	100	117	-	-	136
Puerto Rico	136	10,461	93	1,374	72	61	1,498

[favoritos]

Interesting how many health professionals we have in politics.

The debates can go on and on.  The reality will also progress right along too.

It is confusing as hell at times what we are supposed to do at any given moment.  There is so much political blather tied to most of the discussions.

I figure the people in the business of health and liability probably know.  Good luck getting into any law firm (that does ins. liability,) for a quick visit.  Those offices are clamped tight.  Go in for a checkup at your local clinic without proper precaution and see how that goes.

We can talk politics and personal beliefs all day long.  It doesn't affect a little molecule wrapped in a fatty protective layer.

The saddest part of this whole deal is the mess we have created.  I don't like wearing masks and the other extra precautions.  Most of that stuff is a pain.  It also seems pointless when we also have a large population wandering around without a care.  So, what do we do?  We can keep playing russian roulette with additional rounds or remove some before the spin.

[Jimmy Snacks]

7 minutes ago, favoritos said:

Interesting how many health professionals we have in politics.

The debates can go on and on.  The reality will also progress right along too.

It is confusing as hell at times what we are supposed to do at any given moment.  There is so much political blather tied to most of the discussions.

I figure the people in the business of health and liability probably know.  Good luck getting into any law firm (that does ins. liability,) for a quick visit.  Those offices are clamped tight.  Go in for a checkup at your local clinic without proper precaution and see how that goes.

We can talk politics and personal beliefs all day long.  It doesn't affect a little molecule wrapped in a fatty protective layer.

The saddest part of this whole deal is the mess we have created.  I don't like wearing masks and the other extra precautions.  Most of that stuff is a pain.  It also seems pointless when we also have a large population wandering around without a care.  So, what do we do?  We can keep playing russian roulette with additional rounds or remove some before the spin.

Well said.

[Anler]

[Mainecat]

On 6/24/2020 at 9:46 AM, frenchy said:

will be interesting to see how that gets spun here. 

They will say it’s great and keeps the Muslims and illegal Mombo of they day out.

[Ez ryder]

On 6/24/2020 at 8:18 AM, Mileage Psycho said:

Not good.

Governor Abbot say the numbers are unacceptable, but won't require masks in public.

required in CA but no one is covering tbere cases odd 

[Mileage Psycho]

On 6/25/2020 at 8:09 AM, Highmark said:

I'll happily wear one when the business or govt facility I want to enter requires it.   I have no problem there however, I will not wear one in my car by myself or out in public in general.   

We know through research that Covid transmission is a rare phenomenon via surfaces, we also know through science that it is transmitted through aerosolization via our breath, now of course I don't wear a mask in my car, or in a parking lot, but when entering a building it's on. The rule in my office is when in the open office area you wear a mask, when in your private office with the door closed you can do whatever you want.

What's unfortunate is that after all the pain and expense of the shutdown we politicized the wearing of mask when in public, had we all been on board wearing a mask in public we wouldn't be seeing 1,000 deaths a day now or record high Covid cases causing hospitals to fill up in AZ, FL, and TX, IMO had we not politicized masks our economy would be much more open and on a much stronger footing than it is now.

On 6/25/2020 at 8:20 AM, Anler said:

And neither does Vince

On 6/25/2020 at 8:24 AM, Highmark said:

He posts selfies?      I've heard it all now.  

First off I don't post selfies as I have no social accounts such as Facebag, the pictures @Anler is talking about is with my grandsons when we were off-roading, fishing, boating, hiking, etc. in northern Wisconsin last week, I texted those pics to anler and some other friends.

[Mileage Psycho]

11 hours ago, Ez ryder said:

required in CA but no one is covering tbere cases odd 

How big of a bong hit did you do before you posted that?

California breaks coronavirus records. Gatherings in homes may fuel spread as more young people get sick

By Christina Maxouris, CNN

 

Updated 10:00 AM ET, Thu June 25, 2020

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/25/health/california-coronavirus-cases-surge/index.html

[Highmark]

2 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said:

We know through research that Covid transmission is a rare phenomenon via surfaces, we also know through science that it is transmitted through aerosolization via our breath, now of course I don't wear a mask in my car, or in a parking lot, but when entering a building it's on. The rule in my office is when in the open office area you wear a mask, when in your private office with the door closed you can do whatever you want.

What's unfortunate is that after all the pain and expense of the shutdown we politicized the wearing of mask when in public, had we all been on board wearing a mask in public we wouldn't be seeing 1,000 deaths a day now or record high Covid cases causing hospitals to fill up in AZ, FL, and TX, IMO had we not politicized masks our economy would be much more open and on a much stronger footing than it is now.

First off I don't post selfies as I have no social accounts such as Facebag, the pictures @Anler is talking about is with my grandsons when we were off-roading, fishing, boating, hiking, etc. in northern Wisconsin last week, I texted those pics to anler and some other friends.

We aren't seeing 1000 deaths per day right now.   Not even close. 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

 

[Mileage Psycho]

1 hour ago, Highmark said:

We aren't seeing 1000 deaths per day right now.   Not even close. 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

 

692 deaths yesterday, 121,809 total which puts us at a 1,000 a day average. Now we also know that the recent spike in hospitalizations and ICU beds filling is going to increase the body count in coming in weeks .

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

As for the conversation regarding masks it's good to see some common sense coming into play:

Quote

 

By WBTV Web Staff | June 24, 2020 at 2:17 PM EDT - Updated June 25 at 9:42 PM

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (WBTV) - North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper announced that residents will be required to wear face masks in public and that the state’s Phase 2 will continue for three more weeks, as coronavirus cases continue to rise at an alarming rate.

People must wear face coverings when in public places, indoors or outdoors, where physical distancing of 6 feet from other people who aren’t in the same household or residence isn’t possible.

This Executive Order is effective at 5 p.m. on Friday, June 26. The full executive order can be found here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PD5b7SLTbT8PnrX1Or4fSPvsJvNRCUgL/view

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/06/24/face-masks-required-public-places-north-carolina-covid-cases-rise-alarming-rate/

 

And of course you have governor's like Ducey of AZ, who understands and states that the only way AZ will stop the upward trend is if people will mask up, but they just can't make that decision to mandate it because....??? 

 

Quote

 

PHOENIX — Gov. Doug Ducey is defending indoor political rallies of thousands of people without masks, even as he said the only way Arizona will stop the upward trend of infections is if people mask up and stay home.

“People’s rights to assemble are not going to be infringed in Arizona in an election year or any year,” the governor said Thursday when asked about his attendance at President Trump’s rally Tuesday. A Phoenix church was packed with about 3,000 people at the rally; most of them did not wear face coverings.

Ducey, who said he wore a mask throughout the rally, is also expected to attend two events next week with Vice President Mike Pence, including a Tucson campaign stop.

 

 

 

[Highmark]

1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said:

692 deaths yesterday, 121,809 total which puts us at a 1,000 a day average. Now we also know that the recent spike in hospitalizations and ICU beds filling is going to increase the body count in coming in weeks .

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

As for the conversation regarding masks it's good to see some common sense coming into play:

 

And of course you have governor's like Ducey of AZ, who understands and states that the only way AZ will stop the upward trend is if people will mask up, but they just can't make that decision to mandate it because....??? 

 

 

 

Dude you know as well as I do that the "death counts" are highly debatable and you said now not a yearly daily average.

If you want to wear a mask then do so.   I will when required and won't when not.   Its as simple as that.   The broad call for "everywhere and anywhere in public" is BS IMHO.   If I'm golfing with 3 other guys and we all don't care I shouldn't be forced to wear a mask.   If I'm out UTV'ing with my family I shouldn't have to wear a mask.   Where you wearing a mask 100% of the time in N. Wi?

Confirmed & Probable Counts

As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths. This change was made to reflect an interim COVID-19 position statement pdf iconexternal iconissued by the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists on April 5, 2020. The position statement included a case definition and made COVID-19 a nationally notifiable disease. Nationally notifiable disease cases are voluntarily reported to CDC by jurisdictions.

[Anler]

1 hour ago, Mileage Psycho said:

692 deaths yesterday, 121,809 total which puts us at a 1,000 a day average. Now we also know that the recent spike in hospitalizations and ICU beds filling is going to increase the body count in coming in weeks .

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

As for the conversation regarding masks it's good to see some common sense coming into play:

 

And of course you have governor's like Ducey of AZ, who understands and states that the only way AZ will stop the upward trend is if people will mask up, but they just can't make that decision to mandate it because....??? 

 

 

 

I posted this earlier. death rate is dropping like a rock.

 

On 6/25/2020 at 10:07 AM, Anler said:

At any rate.. Looks like deaths are dropping pretty hard. Open up!

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR3TyJIKMbx-pb_yFhOpIFkVHBYXCLhEnMnZpFG49qqXlKQKgwqp3NYQbyg

Table 1. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by week ending date, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 6/20/2020.*

Updated June 25, 2020

Week ending date in which the death occurred	All Deaths involving COVID-19 (U07.1)1	Deaths from All Causes	Percent of Expected Deaths2	Deaths involving Pneumonia, with or without COVID-19, excluding Influenza deaths (J12.0–J18.9)3	Deaths involving COVID-19 and Pneumonia, excluding Influenza (U07.1 and J12.0–J18.9)3	All Deaths involving Influenza, with or without COVID-19 or Pneumonia (J09–J11), includes COVID-19 or Pneumonia4	Deaths involving Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19 (U07.1 or J09–J18.9)5
Total Deaths	108,684	1,223,289	105	118,510	47,017	6,455	185,695
2/1/2020	1	58,158	98	3,765	0	476	4,242
2/8/2020	1	58,729	98	3,751	0	515	4,267
2/15/2020	0	57,880	98	3,767	0	549	4,316
2/22/2020	5	57,855	100	3,639	1	557	4,200
2/29/2020	5	58,241	101	3,761	3	637	4,400
3/7/2020	33	58,503	101	3,898	16	620	4,534
3/14/2020	52	57,417	101	3,883	27	611	4,518
3/21/2020	549	58,054	102	4,464	245	542	5,304
3/28/2020	3,051	62,057	111	6,048	1,376	439	8,112
4/4/2020	9,502	70,816	127	9,624	4,543	461	14,821
4/11/2020	15,695	77,467	140	11,707	7,028	468	20,504
4/18/2020	16,346	74,815	138	10,985	6,990	260	20,415
4/25/2020	14,095	70,968	132	9,704	6,034	143	17,812
5/2/2020	11,665	65,826	123	8,227	4,937	62	14,997
5/9/2020	10,740	63,460	120	7,485	4,547	46	13,715
5/16/2020	8,753	59,862	114	6,370	3,623	19	11,516
5/23/2020	6,647	55,954	107	5,380	2,784	20	9,261
5/30/2020	5,396	52,537	101	4,609	2,187	10	7,828
6/6/2020	3,834	48,324	91	3,879	1,659	10	6,064
6/13/2020	1,943	37,700	69	2,485	854	7	3,579
6/20/2020	371	18,666	31	1,079	163	3	1,290

NOTE: Number of deaths reported in this table are the total number of deaths received and coded as of the date of analysis and do not represent all deaths that occurred in that period. Counts of deaths occurring before or after the reporting period are not included in the table. The United States population, based on 2018 postcensal estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau, is 327,167,434.

*Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more, depending on the jurisdiction and cause of death.

¹Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1

²Percent of expected deaths is the number of deaths for all causes for this week in 2020 compared to the average number across the same week in 2017–2019. Previous analyses of 2015–2016 provisional data completeness have found that completeness is lower in the first few weeks following the date of death (<25%), and then increases over time such that data are generally at least 75% complete within 8 weeks of when the death occurred (8).

³Counts of deaths involving pneumonia include pneumonia deaths that aso involve COVID-19 and exclude pneumonia deaths involving influenza.

⁴Counts of deaths involving influenza include deaths with pneumonia or COVID-19 also listed as a cause of death.

⁵Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, pneumonia, or influenza, coded to ICD–10 codes U07.1 or J09–J18.9.

 

Table 2. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by jurisdiction of occurrence, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 6/20/2020.*

Updated June 25, 2020

Jurisdiction of Occurrence	All Deaths involving COVID-19 (U07.1)1	Deaths from All Causes	Percent of Expected Deaths2	Deaths involving Pneumonia, with or without COVID-19, excluding Influenza deaths (J12.0–J18.9)3	Deaths involving COVID-19 and Pneumonia, excluding Influenza (J12.0–J18.9 and U07.1)3	All Deaths involving Influenza, with or without COVID-19 or Pneumonia (J09–J11)4	Deaths involving Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19 (U07.1 or J09–J18.9)5
United States6	108,684	1,223,289	105	118,510	47,017	6,455	185,695
Alabama	855	21,359	98	1,446	254	94	2,138
Alaska	-	1,533	89	70	-	-	81
Arizona	1,136	26,901	109	2,138	592	112	2,794
Arkansas	180	12,767	98	866	68	75	1,053
California	4,730	113,411	102	10,412	2,637	575	13,079
Colorado	1,475	17,872	111	1,705	761	95	2,509
Connecticut	3,452	10,958	85	1,273	791	68	4,000
Delaware	441	3,649	98	325	165	16	617
District of Columbia	514	2,943	119	671	510	-	683
Florida	2,802	88,695	103	6,820	1,433	307	8,487
Georgia	1,927	34,589	100	2,619	869	109	3,785
Hawaii	16	4,544	95	293	-	20	323
Idaho	88	5,766	99	277	25	25	365
Illinois	5,806	50,333	116	5,886	2,947	176	8,918
Indiana	2,228	27,541	100	2,754	932	130	4,176
Iowa	651	12,320	100	917	187	84	1,465
Kansas	235	10,588	98	709	101	89	932
Kentucky	488	18,333	93	1,699	247	97	2,036
Louisiana	2,529	19,972	107	1,995	1,172	71	3,418
Maine	106	5,968	100	437	25	31	549
Maryland	3,056	23,975	118	2,598	1,149	125	4,614
Massachusetts	7,111	31,273	128	4,467	2,575	161	9,156
Michigan	5,123	44,782	113	4,956	2,541	238	7,772
Minnesota	1,257	19,179	106	1,496	363	121	2,510
Mississippi	853	13,727	107	1,377	400	51	1,881
Missouri	816	25,519	97	1,632	277	176	2,347
Montana	17	3,981	92	208	-	34	256
Nebraska	194	6,514	94	503	67	28	658
Nevada	439	10,722	100	975	322	39	1,131
New Hampshire	315	5,331	106	386	93	30	637
New Jersey	12,678	45,122	147	8,545	6,226	117	15,100
New Mexico	364	7,365	95	568	150	29	811
New York7	10,301	52,310	128	8,559	5,037	206	14,012
New York City	19,025	46,829	213	9,782	7,365	945	21,570
North Carolina	750	28,534	73	2,016	281	225	2,708
North Dakota	65	2,286	79	200	22	19	262
Ohio	2,103	47,318	93	3,200	887	253	4,668
Oklahoma	352	15,039	92	1,344	135	106	1,662
Oregon	189	14,243	95	719	71	64	900
Pennsylvania	6,448	54,569	98	4,989	2,376	190	9,248
Rhode Island	779	4,582	106	506	302	25	1,008
South Carolina	550	20,619	103	1,309	216	98	1,740
South Dakota	78	3,008	90	245	33	26	316
Tennessee	413	29,996	96	2,191	172	127	2,559
Texas	2,024	82,442	100	6,303	885	340	7,779
Utah	143	7,866	102	434	52	40	565
Vermont	53	2,421	103	143	12	16	200
Virginia	1,658	29,516	105	1,856	560	111	3,063
Washington	1,070	22,848	98	1,846	569	110	2,452
West Virginia	91	7,227	78	536	29	58	656
Wisconsin	685	22,279	103	1,192	115	150	1,910
Wyoming	16	1,825	100	117	-	-	136
Puerto Rico	136	10,461	93	1,374	72	61	1,498

 

[s pump]

On 6/26/2020 at 10:36 AM, Highmark said:

We aren't seeing 1000 deaths per day right now.   Not even close. 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

 

Don't let those pesky charts get in the way.......hide.

[Snake]

Masks.

[Mileage Psycho]

On 6/26/2020 at 11:11 AM, Highmark said:

Dude you know as well as I do that the "death counts" are highly debatable and you said now not a yearly daily average.

If you want to wear a mask then do so.   I will when required and won't when not.   Its as simple as that.   The broad call for "everywhere and anywhere in public" is BS IMHO.   If I'm golfing with 3 other guys and we all don't care I shouldn't be forced to wear a mask.   If I'm out UTV'ing with my family I shouldn't have to wear a mask.   Where you wearing a mask 100% of the time in N. Wi?

Confirmed & Probable Counts

As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths. This change was made to reflect an interim COVID-19 position statement pdf iconexternal iconissued by the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists on April 5, 2020. The position statement included a case definition and made COVID-19 a nationally notifiable disease. Nationally notifiable disease cases are voluntarily reported to CDC by jurisdictions.

You're using something from April 14th, get up to date.

The current science is showing mask reduce the transmission of Covid by 50%.

The less Covid we have in this country the better it is for the economy, it's that simple.

On 6/26/2020 at 12:09 PM, Anler said:

I posted this earlier. death rate is dropping like a rock.

 

 

The PIC (Pneunomonia, Influenza, Covid) rates have gone down, what do think is going to happen to that rate over the next few weeks with ICU's filling up in AZ, FL, TX, and other states?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html

 

[ford_428cj]

On 6/26/2020 at 10:31 AM, Mileage Psycho said:

We know through research that Covid transmission is a rare phenomenon via surfaces, we also know through science that it is transmitted through aerosolization via our breath, now of course I don't wear a mask in my car, or in a parking lot, but when entering a building it's on. The rule in my office is when in the open office area you wear a mask, when in your private office with the door closed you can do whatever you want.

What's unfortunate is that after all the pain and expense of the shutdown we politicized the wearing of mask when in public, had we all been on board wearing a mask in public we wouldn't be seeing 1,000 deaths a day now or record high Covid cases causing hospitals to fill up in AZ, FL, and TX, IMO had we not politicized masks our economy would be much more open and on a much stronger footing than it is now.

First off I don't post selfies as I have no social accounts such as Facebag, the pictures @Anler is talking about is with my grandsons when we were off-roading, fishing, boating, hiking, etc. in northern Wisconsin last week, I texted those pics to anler and some other friends.

Half the people have just mouth covered & the beak isn't

One customer, he switched from a surgical, to his wife's bikini bottoms I think  ... He said she made it up for him ...I want to ask so bad but...

 

 

Analer nobody wants to read 5 pages of your dumb charts ... what's the death rate % now?

[Anler]

2 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said:

You're using something from April 14th, get up to date.

The current science is showing mask reduce the transmission of Covid by 50%.

The less Covid we have in this country the better it is for the economy, it's that simple.

The PIC (Pneunomonia, Influenza, Covid) rates have gone down, what do think is going to happen to that rate over the next few weeks with ICU's filling up in AZ, FL, TX, and other states?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html

 

Why do you suppose the death rate is going down so sharply?

[favoritos]

9 minutes ago, Anler said:

Why do you suppose the death rate is going down so sharply?

Looks like it is listed as a percent of confirmations.  Probably just need to quit testing.

 

It is a strong statement to say less Covid would be better for the economy.  It is a reality.

The sad part is that we have been living on a perception of reality.  The truth is a long term reality we have to deal with before we are done.

[Anler]

4 hours ago, favoritos said:

Looks like it is listed as a percent of confirmations.  Probably just need to quit testing.

 

It is a strong statement to say less Covid would be better for the economy.  It is a reality.

The sad part is that we have been living on a perception of reality.  The truth is a long term reality we have to deal with before we are done.

Yep. I think we are in for alot more pain before it gets better. 

[Anler]

6 hours ago, ford_428cj said:

Half the people have just mouth covered & the beak isn't

One customer, he switched from a surgical, to his wife's bikini bottoms I think  ... He said she made it up for him ...I want to ask so bad but...

 

 

Analer nobody wants to read 5 pages of your dumb charts ... what's the death rate % now?

I posted a link you Mook. 

[Woodtick]

How are the states that never shut down doing?

[frenchy]

11 hours ago, ford_428cj said:

Half the people have just mouth covered & the beak isn't

well 80% of americans are mouth breathers so there's that?  

[ford_428cj]

6 hours ago, Anler said:

I posted a link you Mook. 

You posted a bunch of nerd stats. What's the percent?

[ford_428cj]

54 minutes ago, frenchy said:

well 80% of americans are mouth breathers so there's that?  

That allow you guys to keep operating status quo...