Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted June 25, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 25, 2020 Houston hospitals nearing capacity but let’s politicize the wearing of masks and argue about it...idiots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 At any rate.. Looks like deaths are dropping pretty hard. Open up! https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR3TyJIKMbx-pb_yFhOpIFkVHBYXCLhEnMnZpFG49qqXlKQKgwqp3NYQbyg Table 1. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by week ending date, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 6/20/2020.* Updated June 25, 2020 Week ending date in which the death occurred All Deaths involving COVID-19 (U07.1)1 Deaths from All Causes Percent of Expected Deaths2 Deaths involving Pneumonia, with or without COVID-19, excluding Influenza deaths (J12.0–J18.9)3 Deaths involving COVID-19 and Pneumonia, excluding Influenza (U07.1 and J12.0–J18.9)3 All Deaths involving Influenza, with or without COVID-19 or Pneumonia (J09–J11), includes COVID-19 or Pneumonia4 Deaths involving Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19 (U07.1 or J09–J18.9)5 Total Deaths 108,684 1,223,289 105 118,510 47,017 6,455 185,695 2/1/2020 1 58,158 98 3,765 0 476 4,242 2/8/2020 1 58,729 98 3,751 0 515 4,267 2/15/2020 0 57,880 98 3,767 0 549 4,316 2/22/2020 5 57,855 100 3,639 1 557 4,200 2/29/2020 5 58,241 101 3,761 3 637 4,400 3/7/2020 33 58,503 101 3,898 16 620 4,534 3/14/2020 52 57,417 101 3,883 27 611 4,518 3/21/2020 549 58,054 102 4,464 245 542 5,304 3/28/2020 3,051 62,057 111 6,048 1,376 439 8,112 4/4/2020 9,502 70,816 127 9,624 4,543 461 14,821 4/11/2020 15,695 77,467 140 11,707 7,028 468 20,504 4/18/2020 16,346 74,815 138 10,985 6,990 260 20,415 4/25/2020 14,095 70,968 132 9,704 6,034 143 17,812 5/2/2020 11,665 65,826 123 8,227 4,937 62 14,997 5/9/2020 10,740 63,460 120 7,485 4,547 46 13,715 5/16/2020 8,753 59,862 114 6,370 3,623 19 11,516 5/23/2020 6,647 55,954 107 5,380 2,784 20 9,261 5/30/2020 5,396 52,537 101 4,609 2,187 10 7,828 6/6/2020 3,834 48,324 91 3,879 1,659 10 6,064 6/13/2020 1,943 37,700 69 2,485 854 7 3,579 6/20/2020 371 18,666 31 1,079 163 3 1,290 NOTE: Number of deaths reported in this table are the total number of deaths received and coded as of the date of analysis and do not represent all deaths that occurred in that period. Counts of deaths occurring before or after the reporting period are not included in the table. The United States population, based on 2018 postcensal estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau, is 327,167,434. *Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more, depending on the jurisdiction and cause of death. 1Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1 2Percent of expected deaths is the number of deaths for all causes for this week in 2020 compared to the average number across the same week in 2017–2019. Previous analyses of 2015–2016 provisional data completeness have found that completeness is lower in the first few weeks following the date of death (<25%), and then increases over time such that data are generally at least 75% complete within 8 weeks of when the death occurred (8). 3Counts of deaths involving pneumonia include pneumonia deaths that aso involve COVID-19 and exclude pneumonia deaths involving influenza. 4Counts of deaths involving influenza include deaths with pneumonia or COVID-19 also listed as a cause of death. 5Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, pneumonia, or influenza, coded to ICD–10 codes U07.1 or J09–J18.9. Table 2. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by jurisdiction of occurrence, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 6/20/2020.* Updated June 25, 2020 Jurisdiction of Occurrence All Deaths involving COVID-19 (U07.1)1 Deaths from All Causes Percent of Expected Deaths2 Deaths involving Pneumonia, with or without COVID-19, excluding Influenza deaths (J12.0–J18.9)3 Deaths involving COVID-19 and Pneumonia, excluding Influenza (J12.0–J18.9 and U07.1)3 All Deaths involving Influenza, with or without COVID-19 or Pneumonia (J09–J11)4 Deaths involving Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19 (U07.1 or J09–J18.9)5 United States6 108,684 1,223,289 105 118,510 47,017 6,455 185,695 Alabama 855 21,359 98 1,446 254 94 2,138 Alaska - 1,533 89 70 - - 81 Arizona 1,136 26,901 109 2,138 592 112 2,794 Arkansas 180 12,767 98 866 68 75 1,053 California 4,730 113,411 102 10,412 2,637 575 13,079 Colorado 1,475 17,872 111 1,705 761 95 2,509 Connecticut 3,452 10,958 85 1,273 791 68 4,000 Delaware 441 3,649 98 325 165 16 617 District of Columbia 514 2,943 119 671 510 - 683 Florida 2,802 88,695 103 6,820 1,433 307 8,487 Georgia 1,927 34,589 100 2,619 869 109 3,785 Hawaii 16 4,544 95 293 - 20 323 Idaho 88 5,766 99 277 25 25 365 Illinois 5,806 50,333 116 5,886 2,947 176 8,918 Indiana 2,228 27,541 100 2,754 932 130 4,176 Iowa 651 12,320 100 917 187 84 1,465 Kansas 235 10,588 98 709 101 89 932 Kentucky 488 18,333 93 1,699 247 97 2,036 Louisiana 2,529 19,972 107 1,995 1,172 71 3,418 Maine 106 5,968 100 437 25 31 549 Maryland 3,056 23,975 118 2,598 1,149 125 4,614 Massachusetts 7,111 31,273 128 4,467 2,575 161 9,156 Michigan 5,123 44,782 113 4,956 2,541 238 7,772 Minnesota 1,257 19,179 106 1,496 363 121 2,510 Mississippi 853 13,727 107 1,377 400 51 1,881 Missouri 816 25,519 97 1,632 277 176 2,347 Montana 17 3,981 92 208 - 34 256 Nebraska 194 6,514 94 503 67 28 658 Nevada 439 10,722 100 975 322 39 1,131 New Hampshire 315 5,331 106 386 93 30 637 New Jersey 12,678 45,122 147 8,545 6,226 117 15,100 New Mexico 364 7,365 95 568 150 29 811 New York7 10,301 52,310 128 8,559 5,037 206 14,012 New York City 19,025 46,829 213 9,782 7,365 945 21,570 North Carolina 750 28,534 73 2,016 281 225 2,708 North Dakota 65 2,286 79 200 22 19 262 Ohio 2,103 47,318 93 3,200 887 253 4,668 Oklahoma 352 15,039 92 1,344 135 106 1,662 Oregon 189 14,243 95 719 71 64 900 Pennsylvania 6,448 54,569 98 4,989 2,376 190 9,248 Rhode Island 779 4,582 106 506 302 25 1,008 South Carolina 550 20,619 103 1,309 216 98 1,740 South Dakota 78 3,008 90 245 33 26 316 Tennessee 413 29,996 96 2,191 172 127 2,559 Texas 2,024 82,442 100 6,303 885 340 7,779 Utah 143 7,866 102 434 52 40 565 Vermont 53 2,421 103 143 12 16 200 Virginia 1,658 29,516 105 1,856 560 111 3,063 Washington 1,070 22,848 98 1,846 569 110 2,452 West Virginia 91 7,227 78 536 29 58 656 Wisconsin 685 22,279 103 1,192 115 150 1,910 Wyoming 16 1,825 100 117 - - 136 Puerto Rico 136 10,461 93 1,374 72 61 1,498 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
favoritos Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Interesting how many health professionals we have in politics. The debates can go on and on. The reality will also progress right along too. It is confusing as hell at times what we are supposed to do at any given moment. There is so much political blather tied to most of the discussions. I figure the people in the business of health and liability probably know. Good luck getting into any law firm (that does ins. liability,) for a quick visit. Those offices are clamped tight. Go in for a checkup at your local clinic without proper precaution and see how that goes. We can talk politics and personal beliefs all day long. It doesn't affect a little molecule wrapped in a fatty protective layer. The saddest part of this whole deal is the mess we have created. I don't like wearing masks and the other extra precautions. Most of that stuff is a pain. It also seems pointless when we also have a large population wandering around without a care. So, what do we do? We can keep playing russian roulette with additional rounds or remove some before the spin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted June 25, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, favoritos said: Interesting how many health professionals we have in politics. The debates can go on and on. The reality will also progress right along too. It is confusing as hell at times what we are supposed to do at any given moment. There is so much political blather tied to most of the discussions. I figure the people in the business of health and liability probably know. Good luck getting into any law firm (that does ins. liability,) for a quick visit. Those offices are clamped tight. Go in for a checkup at your local clinic without proper precaution and see how that goes. We can talk politics and personal beliefs all day long. It doesn't affect a little molecule wrapped in a fatty protective layer. The saddest part of this whole deal is the mess we have created. I don't like wearing masks and the other extra precautions. Most of that stuff is a pain. It also seems pointless when we also have a large population wandering around without a care. So, what do we do? We can keep playing russian roulette with additional rounds or remove some before the spin. Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mainecat Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 On 6/24/2020 at 9:46 AM, frenchy said: will be interesting to see how that gets spun here. They will say it’s great and keeps the Muslims and illegal Mombo of they day out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 On 6/24/2020 at 8:18 AM, Mileage Psycho said: Not good. Governor Abbot say the numbers are unacceptable, but won't require masks in public. required in CA but no one is covering tbere cases odd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share Posted June 26, 2020 On 6/25/2020 at 8:09 AM, Highmark said: I'll happily wear one when the business or govt facility I want to enter requires it. I have no problem there however, I will not wear one in my car by myself or out in public in general. We know through research that Covid transmission is a rare phenomenon via surfaces, we also know through science that it is transmitted through aerosolization via our breath, now of course I don't wear a mask in my car, or in a parking lot, but when entering a building it's on. The rule in my office is when in the open office area you wear a mask, when in your private office with the door closed you can do whatever you want. What's unfortunate is that after all the pain and expense of the shutdown we politicized the wearing of mask when in public, had we all been on board wearing a mask in public we wouldn't be seeing 1,000 deaths a day now or record high Covid cases causing hospitals to fill up in AZ, FL, and TX, IMO had we not politicized masks our economy would be much more open and on a much stronger footing than it is now. On 6/25/2020 at 8:20 AM, Anler said: And neither does Vince On 6/25/2020 at 8:24 AM, Highmark said: He posts selfies? I've heard it all now. First off I don't post selfies as I have no social accounts such as Facebag, the pictures @Anler is talking about is with my grandsons when we were off-roading, fishing, boating, hiking, etc. in northern Wisconsin last week, I texted those pics to anler and some other friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share Posted June 26, 2020 11 hours ago, Ez ryder said: required in CA but no one is covering tbere cases odd How big of a bong hit did you do before you posted that? California breaks coronavirus records. Gatherings in homes may fuel spread as more young people get sick By Christina Maxouris, CNN Updated 10:00 AM ET, Thu June 25, 2020 https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/25/health/california-coronavirus-cases-surge/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 26, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: We know through research that Covid transmission is a rare phenomenon via surfaces, we also know through science that it is transmitted through aerosolization via our breath, now of course I don't wear a mask in my car, or in a parking lot, but when entering a building it's on. The rule in my office is when in the open office area you wear a mask, when in your private office with the door closed you can do whatever you want. What's unfortunate is that after all the pain and expense of the shutdown we politicized the wearing of mask when in public, had we all been on board wearing a mask in public we wouldn't be seeing 1,000 deaths a day now or record high Covid cases causing hospitals to fill up in AZ, FL, and TX, IMO had we not politicized masks our economy would be much more open and on a much stronger footing than it is now. First off I don't post selfies as I have no social accounts such as Facebag, the pictures @Anler is talking about is with my grandsons when we were off-roading, fishing, boating, hiking, etc. in northern Wisconsin last week, I texted those pics to anler and some other friends. We aren't seeing 1000 deaths per day right now. Not even close. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Highmark said: We aren't seeing 1000 deaths per day right now. Not even close. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm 692 deaths yesterday, 121,809 total which puts us at a 1,000 a day average. Now we also know that the recent spike in hospitalizations and ICU beds filling is going to increase the body count in coming in weeks . https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html As for the conversation regarding masks it's good to see some common sense coming into play: Quote By WBTV Web Staff | June 24, 2020 at 2:17 PM EDT - Updated June 25 at 9:42 PM CHARLOTTE, N.C. (WBTV) - North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper announced that residents will be required to wear face masks in public and that the state’s Phase 2 will continue for three more weeks, as coronavirus cases continue to rise at an alarming rate. People must wear face coverings when in public places, indoors or outdoors, where physical distancing of 6 feet from other people who aren’t in the same household or residence isn’t possible. This Executive Order is effective at 5 p.m. on Friday, June 26. The full executive order can be found here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PD5b7SLTbT8PnrX1Or4fSPvsJvNRCUgL/view https://www.wbtv.com/2020/06/24/face-masks-required-public-places-north-carolina-covid-cases-rise-alarming-rate/ And of course you have governor's like Ducey of AZ, who understands and states that the only way AZ will stop the upward trend is if people will mask up, but they just can't make that decision to mandate it because....??? Quote PHOENIX — Gov. Doug Ducey is defending indoor political rallies of thousands of people without masks, even as he said the only way Arizona will stop the upward trend of infections is if people mask up and stay home. “People’s rights to assemble are not going to be infringed in Arizona in an election year or any year,” the governor said Thursday when asked about his attendance at President Trump’s rally Tuesday. A Phoenix church was packed with about 3,000 people at the rally; most of them did not wear face coverings. Ducey, who said he wore a mask throughout the rally, is also expected to attend two events next week with Vice President Mike Pence, including a Tucson campaign stop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 26, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said: 692 deaths yesterday, 121,809 total which puts us at a 1,000 a day average. Now we also know that the recent spike in hospitalizations and ICU beds filling is going to increase the body count in coming in weeks . https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html As for the conversation regarding masks it's good to see some common sense coming into play: And of course you have governor's like Ducey of AZ, who understands and states that the only way AZ will stop the upward trend is if people will mask up, but they just can't make that decision to mandate it because....??? Dude you know as well as I do that the "death counts" are highly debatable and you said now not a yearly daily average. If you want to wear a mask then do so. I will when required and won't when not. Its as simple as that. The broad call for "everywhere and anywhere in public" is BS IMHO. If I'm golfing with 3 other guys and we all don't care I shouldn't be forced to wear a mask. If I'm out UTV'ing with my family I shouldn't have to wear a mask. Where you wearing a mask 100% of the time in N. Wi? Confirmed & Probable Counts As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths. This change was made to reflect an interim COVID-19 position statement pdf iconexternal iconissued by the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists on April 5, 2020. The position statement included a case definition and made COVID-19 a nationally notifiable disease. Nationally notifiable disease cases are voluntarily reported to CDC by jurisdictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Mileage Psycho said: 692 deaths yesterday, 121,809 total which puts us at a 1,000 a day average. Now we also know that the recent spike in hospitalizations and ICU beds filling is going to increase the body count in coming in weeks . https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html As for the conversation regarding masks it's good to see some common sense coming into play: And of course you have governor's like Ducey of AZ, who understands and states that the only way AZ will stop the upward trend is if people will mask up, but they just can't make that decision to mandate it because....??? I posted this earlier. death rate is dropping like a rock. On 6/25/2020 at 10:07 AM, Anler said: At any rate.. Looks like deaths are dropping pretty hard. Open up! https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR3TyJIKMbx-pb_yFhOpIFkVHBYXCLhEnMnZpFG49qqXlKQKgwqp3NYQbyg Table 1. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by week ending date, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 6/20/2020.* Updated June 25, 2020 Week ending date in which the death occurred All Deaths involving COVID-19 (U07.1)1 Deaths from All Causes Percent of Expected Deaths2 Deaths involving Pneumonia, with or without COVID-19, excluding Influenza deaths (J12.0–J18.9)3 Deaths involving COVID-19 and Pneumonia, excluding Influenza (U07.1 and J12.0–J18.9)3 All Deaths involving Influenza, with or without COVID-19 or Pneumonia (J09–J11), includes COVID-19 or Pneumonia4 Deaths involving Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19 (U07.1 or J09–J18.9)5 Total Deaths 108,684 1,223,289 105 118,510 47,017 6,455 185,695 2/1/2020 1 58,158 98 3,765 0 476 4,242 2/8/2020 1 58,729 98 3,751 0 515 4,267 2/15/2020 0 57,880 98 3,767 0 549 4,316 2/22/2020 5 57,855 100 3,639 1 557 4,200 2/29/2020 5 58,241 101 3,761 3 637 4,400 3/7/2020 33 58,503 101 3,898 16 620 4,534 3/14/2020 52 57,417 101 3,883 27 611 4,518 3/21/2020 549 58,054 102 4,464 245 542 5,304 3/28/2020 3,051 62,057 111 6,048 1,376 439 8,112 4/4/2020 9,502 70,816 127 9,624 4,543 461 14,821 4/11/2020 15,695 77,467 140 11,707 7,028 468 20,504 4/18/2020 16,346 74,815 138 10,985 6,990 260 20,415 4/25/2020 14,095 70,968 132 9,704 6,034 143 17,812 5/2/2020 11,665 65,826 123 8,227 4,937 62 14,997 5/9/2020 10,740 63,460 120 7,485 4,547 46 13,715 5/16/2020 8,753 59,862 114 6,370 3,623 19 11,516 5/23/2020 6,647 55,954 107 5,380 2,784 20 9,261 5/30/2020 5,396 52,537 101 4,609 2,187 10 7,828 6/6/2020 3,834 48,324 91 3,879 1,659 10 6,064 6/13/2020 1,943 37,700 69 2,485 854 7 3,579 6/20/2020 371 18,666 31 1,079 163 3 1,290 NOTE: Number of deaths reported in this table are the total number of deaths received and coded as of the date of analysis and do not represent all deaths that occurred in that period. Counts of deaths occurring before or after the reporting period are not included in the table. The United States population, based on 2018 postcensal estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau, is 327,167,434. *Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more, depending on the jurisdiction and cause of death. 1Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1 2Percent of expected deaths is the number of deaths for all causes for this week in 2020 compared to the average number across the same week in 2017–2019. Previous analyses of 2015–2016 provisional data completeness have found that completeness is lower in the first few weeks following the date of death (<25%), and then increases over time such that data are generally at least 75% complete within 8 weeks of when the death occurred (8). 3Counts of deaths involving pneumonia include pneumonia deaths that aso involve COVID-19 and exclude pneumonia deaths involving influenza. 4Counts of deaths involving influenza include deaths with pneumonia or COVID-19 also listed as a cause of death. 5Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, pneumonia, or influenza, coded to ICD–10 codes U07.1 or J09–J18.9. Table 2. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by jurisdiction of occurrence, United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 6/20/2020.* Updated June 25, 2020 Jurisdiction of Occurrence All Deaths involving COVID-19 (U07.1)1 Deaths from All Causes Percent of Expected Deaths2 Deaths involving Pneumonia, with or without COVID-19, excluding Influenza deaths (J12.0–J18.9)3 Deaths involving COVID-19 and Pneumonia, excluding Influenza (J12.0–J18.9 and U07.1)3 All Deaths involving Influenza, with or without COVID-19 or Pneumonia (J09–J11)4 Deaths involving Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19 (U07.1 or J09–J18.9)5 United States6 108,684 1,223,289 105 118,510 47,017 6,455 185,695 Alabama 855 21,359 98 1,446 254 94 2,138 Alaska - 1,533 89 70 - - 81 Arizona 1,136 26,901 109 2,138 592 112 2,794 Arkansas 180 12,767 98 866 68 75 1,053 California 4,730 113,411 102 10,412 2,637 575 13,079 Colorado 1,475 17,872 111 1,705 761 95 2,509 Connecticut 3,452 10,958 85 1,273 791 68 4,000 Delaware 441 3,649 98 325 165 16 617 District of Columbia 514 2,943 119 671 510 - 683 Florida 2,802 88,695 103 6,820 1,433 307 8,487 Georgia 1,927 34,589 100 2,619 869 109 3,785 Hawaii 16 4,544 95 293 - 20 323 Idaho 88 5,766 99 277 25 25 365 Illinois 5,806 50,333 116 5,886 2,947 176 8,918 Indiana 2,228 27,541 100 2,754 932 130 4,176 Iowa 651 12,320 100 917 187 84 1,465 Kansas 235 10,588 98 709 101 89 932 Kentucky 488 18,333 93 1,699 247 97 2,036 Louisiana 2,529 19,972 107 1,995 1,172 71 3,418 Maine 106 5,968 100 437 25 31 549 Maryland 3,056 23,975 118 2,598 1,149 125 4,614 Massachusetts 7,111 31,273 128 4,467 2,575 161 9,156 Michigan 5,123 44,782 113 4,956 2,541 238 7,772 Minnesota 1,257 19,179 106 1,496 363 121 2,510 Mississippi 853 13,727 107 1,377 400 51 1,881 Missouri 816 25,519 97 1,632 277 176 2,347 Montana 17 3,981 92 208 - 34 256 Nebraska 194 6,514 94 503 67 28 658 Nevada 439 10,722 100 975 322 39 1,131 New Hampshire 315 5,331 106 386 93 30 637 New Jersey 12,678 45,122 147 8,545 6,226 117 15,100 New Mexico 364 7,365 95 568 150 29 811 New York7 10,301 52,310 128 8,559 5,037 206 14,012 New York City 19,025 46,829 213 9,782 7,365 945 21,570 North Carolina 750 28,534 73 2,016 281 225 2,708 North Dakota 65 2,286 79 200 22 19 262 Ohio 2,103 47,318 93 3,200 887 253 4,668 Oklahoma 352 15,039 92 1,344 135 106 1,662 Oregon 189 14,243 95 719 71 64 900 Pennsylvania 6,448 54,569 98 4,989 2,376 190 9,248 Rhode Island 779 4,582 106 506 302 25 1,008 South Carolina 550 20,619 103 1,309 216 98 1,740 South Dakota 78 3,008 90 245 33 26 316 Tennessee 413 29,996 96 2,191 172 127 2,559 Texas 2,024 82,442 100 6,303 885 340 7,779 Utah 143 7,866 102 434 52 40 565 Vermont 53 2,421 103 143 12 16 200 Virginia 1,658 29,516 105 1,856 560 111 3,063 Washington 1,070 22,848 98 1,846 569 110 2,452 West Virginia 91 7,227 78 536 29 58 656 Wisconsin 685 22,279 103 1,192 115 150 1,910 Wyoming 16 1,825 100 117 - - 136 Puerto Rico 136 10,461 93 1,374 72 61 1,498 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s pump Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 10:36 AM, Highmark said: We aren't seeing 1000 deaths per day right now. Not even close. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm Don't let those pesky charts get in the way.......hide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Masks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 11:11 AM, Highmark said: Dude you know as well as I do that the "death counts" are highly debatable and you said now not a yearly daily average. If you want to wear a mask then do so. I will when required and won't when not. Its as simple as that. The broad call for "everywhere and anywhere in public" is BS IMHO. If I'm golfing with 3 other guys and we all don't care I shouldn't be forced to wear a mask. If I'm out UTV'ing with my family I shouldn't have to wear a mask. Where you wearing a mask 100% of the time in N. Wi? Confirmed & Probable Counts As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths. This change was made to reflect an interim COVID-19 position statement pdf iconexternal iconissued by the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists on April 5, 2020. The position statement included a case definition and made COVID-19 a nationally notifiable disease. Nationally notifiable disease cases are voluntarily reported to CDC by jurisdictions. You're using something from April 14th, get up to date. The current science is showing mask reduce the transmission of Covid by 50%. The less Covid we have in this country the better it is for the economy, it's that simple. On 6/26/2020 at 12:09 PM, Anler said: I posted this earlier. death rate is dropping like a rock. The PIC (Pneunomonia, Influenza, Covid) rates have gone down, what do think is going to happen to that rate over the next few weeks with ICU's filling up in AZ, FL, TX, and other states? https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 10:31 AM, Mileage Psycho said: We know through research that Covid transmission is a rare phenomenon via surfaces, we also know through science that it is transmitted through aerosolization via our breath, now of course I don't wear a mask in my car, or in a parking lot, but when entering a building it's on. The rule in my office is when in the open office area you wear a mask, when in your private office with the door closed you can do whatever you want. What's unfortunate is that after all the pain and expense of the shutdown we politicized the wearing of mask when in public, had we all been on board wearing a mask in public we wouldn't be seeing 1,000 deaths a day now or record high Covid cases causing hospitals to fill up in AZ, FL, and TX, IMO had we not politicized masks our economy would be much more open and on a much stronger footing than it is now. First off I don't post selfies as I have no social accounts such as Facebag, the pictures @Anler is talking about is with my grandsons when we were off-roading, fishing, boating, hiking, etc. in northern Wisconsin last week, I texted those pics to anler and some other friends. Half the people have just mouth covered & the beak isn't One customer, he switched from a surgical, to his wife's bikini bottoms I think ... He said she made it up for him ...I want to ask so bad but... Analer nobody wants to read 5 pages of your dumb charts ... what's the death rate % now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said: You're using something from April 14th, get up to date. The current science is showing mask reduce the transmission of Covid by 50%. The less Covid we have in this country the better it is for the economy, it's that simple. The PIC (Pneunomonia, Influenza, Covid) rates have gone down, what do think is going to happen to that rate over the next few weeks with ICU's filling up in AZ, FL, TX, and other states? https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html Why do you suppose the death rate is going down so sharply? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
favoritos Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Anler said: Why do you suppose the death rate is going down so sharply? Looks like it is listed as a percent of confirmations. Probably just need to quit testing. It is a strong statement to say less Covid would be better for the economy. It is a reality. The sad part is that we have been living on a perception of reality. The truth is a long term reality we have to deal with before we are done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 4 hours ago, favoritos said: Looks like it is listed as a percent of confirmations. Probably just need to quit testing. It is a strong statement to say less Covid would be better for the economy. It is a reality. The sad part is that we have been living on a perception of reality. The truth is a long term reality we have to deal with before we are done. Yep. I think we are in for alot more pain before it gets better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 6 hours ago, ford_428cj said: Half the people have just mouth covered & the beak isn't One customer, he switched from a surgical, to his wife's bikini bottoms I think ... He said she made it up for him ...I want to ask so bad but... Analer nobody wants to read 5 pages of your dumb charts ... what's the death rate % now? I posted a link you Mook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 How are the states that never shut down doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 11 hours ago, ford_428cj said: Half the people have just mouth covered & the beak isn't well 80% of americans are mouth breathers so there's that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 6 hours ago, Anler said: I posted a link you Mook. You posted a bunch of nerd stats. What's the percent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 54 minutes ago, frenchy said: well 80% of americans are mouth breathers so there's that? That allow you guys to keep operating status quo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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