spin_dry Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 It’s starting to come apart. June 2, 2020 Hon. Mark T. Esper Secretary of Defense The Pentagon Washington, D.C., 20301 Dear Secretary Esper, I resign from the Defense Science Board, effective immediately. When I joined the Board in early 2014, after leaving government service as Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, I again swore an oath of office, one familiar to you, that includes the commitment to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States . . . and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same.” You recited that same oath on July 23, 2019, when you were sworn in as Secretary of Defense. On Monday, June 1, 2020, I believe that you violated that oath. Law-abiding protesters just outside the White House were dispersed using tear gas and rubber bullets — not for the sake of safety, but to clear a path for a presidential photo op. You then accompanied President Trump in walking from the White House to St. John’s Episcopal Church for that photo. President Trump’s actions Monday night violated his oath to “take care that the laws be faithfully executed,” as well as the First Amendment “right of the people peaceably to assemble.” You may not have been able to stop President Trump from directing this appalling use of force, but you could have chosen to oppose it. Instead, you visibly supported it. Anyone who takes the oath of office must decide where he or she will draw the line: What are the things that they will refuse to do? Secretary Esper, you have served honorably for many years, in active and reserve military duty, as Secretary of the Army, and now as Secretary of Defense. You must have thought long and hard about where that line should be drawn. I must now ask: If last night’s blatant violations do not cross the line for you, what will? Unfortunately, it appears there may be few if any lines that President Trump is not willing to cross, so you will probably be faced with this terrible question again in the coming days. You may be asked to take, or to direct the men and women serving in the U.S. military to take, actions that further undermine the Constitution and harm Americans. As a concerned citizen, and as a former senior defense official who cares deeply about the military, I urge you to consider closely both your future actions and your future words. For example, some could interpret literally your suggestion to the nation’s governors Monday that they need to “dominate the battlespace.” I cannot believe that you see the United States as a “battlespace,” or that you believe our citizens must be “dominated.” Such language sends an extremely dangerous signal. You have made life-and-death decisions in combat overseas; soon you may be asked to make life-and-death decisions about using the military on American streets and against Americans. Where will you draw the line, and when will you draw it? I hope this letter of resignation will encourage you to again contemplate the obligations you undertook in your oath of office, as well as your obligations to the men and women in our military and other Americans whose lives may be at stake. In the event that at least some other senior officials may be inclined to ask these questions after reading this letter, I am making it public. I wish you the best, in very difficult times. The sanctity of the U.S. Constitution, and the lives of Americans, may depend on your choices. Sincerely, James N. Miller James N. Miller served as under secretary of defense for policy from 2012 to 2014. He provided The Post with a copy of his resignation letter, which he submitted to Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper on Tuesday evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 say so long to your security clearance Mr. Miller! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, frenchy said: say so long to your security clearance Mr. Miller! The wheels are starting to wobble. I wonder why the 82nd airborne hasn’t been deployed as promised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DriftBusta Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, spin_dry said: It’s starting to come apart. June 2, 2020 Hon. Mark T. Esper Secretary of Defense The Pentagon Washington, D.C., 20301 Dear Secretary Esper, I resign from the Defense Science Board, effective immediately. When I joined the Board in early 2014, after leaving government service as Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, I again swore an oath of office, one familiar to you, that includes the commitment to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States . . . and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same.” You recited that same oath on July 23, 2019, when you were sworn in as Secretary of Defense. On Monday, June 1, 2020, I believe that you violated that oath. Law-abiding protesters just outside the White House were dispersed using tear gas and rubber bullets — not for the sake of safety, but to clear a path for a presidential photo op. You then accompanied President Trump in walking from the White House to St. John’s Episcopal Church for that photo. President Trump’s actions Monday night violated his oath to “take care that the laws be faithfully executed,” as well as the First Amendment “right of the people peaceably to assemble.” You may not have been able to stop President Trump from directing this appalling use of force, but you could have chosen to oppose it. Instead, you visibly supported it. Anyone who takes the oath of office must decide where he or she will draw the line: What are the things that they will refuse to do? Secretary Esper, you have served honorably for many years, in active and reserve military duty, as Secretary of the Army, and now as Secretary of Defense. You must have thought long and hard about where that line should be drawn. I must now ask: If last night’s blatant violations do not cross the line for you, what will? Unfortunately, it appears there may be few if any lines that President Trump is not willing to cross, so you will probably be faced with this terrible question again in the coming days. You may be asked to take, or to direct the men and women serving in the U.S. military to take, actions that further undermine the Constitution and harm Americans. As a concerned citizen, and as a former senior defense official who cares deeply about the military, I urge you to consider closely both your future actions and your future words. For example, some could interpret literally your suggestion to the nation’s governors Monday that they need to “dominate the battlespace.” I cannot believe that you see the United States as a “battlespace,” or that you believe our citizens must be “dominated.” Such language sends an extremely dangerous signal. You have made life-and-death decisions in combat overseas; soon you may be asked to make life-and-death decisions about using the military on American streets and against Americans. Where will you draw the line, and when will you draw it? I hope this letter of resignation will encourage you to again contemplate the obligations you undertook in your oath of office, as well as your obligations to the men and women in our military and other Americans whose lives may be at stake. In the event that at least some other senior officials may be inclined to ask these questions after reading this letter, I am making it public. I wish you the best, in very difficult times. The sanctity of the U.S. Constitution, and the lives of Americans, may depend on your choices. Sincerely, James N. Miller James N. Miller served as under secretary of defense for policy from 2012 to 2014. He provided The Post with a copy of his resignation letter, which he submitted to Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper on Tuesday evening. 16 minutes ago, frenchy said: say so long to your security clearance Mr. Miller! 10 minutes ago, spin_dry said: The wheels are starting to wobble. I wonder why the 82nd airborne hasn’t been deployed as promised? 5 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: By the time this is over, the line up of last gasp trump supporters will be the laughing stock of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, DriftBusta said: That’s people in the trump administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, spin_dry said: By the time this is over, the line up of last gasp trump supporters will be the laughing stock of the world. OK Mainecat. The seals, by the way, are you and people who think like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: OK Mainecat. The seals, by the way, are you and people who think like you. Looking at America over the last few days, there’s a lot of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted June 3, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 3, 2020 Mango Mussolini wants tanks in the streets... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3600 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Here is another example of something Trump didn’t say being attributed to him by some reporter who heard from someone and then it will be carried forward by certain people as fact. He wANtS TO pUt TaNKs In tHe StReETs Is there any bait you won’t hit like a pike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted June 3, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, F3600 said: Here is another example of something Trump didn’t say being attributed to him by some reporter who heard from someone and then it will be carried forward by certain people as fact. He wANtS TO pUt TaNKs In tHe StReETs Is there any bait you won’t hit like a pike? Remember when he was going to have 2 tanks brought up from Georgia for his like 4th of July speech or something and the usual suspects were flipping out because it was going to cost like 17 billion dollars for the 2 trucks to go 500 miles as the news reported.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted June 3, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) He is on record wanting to deploy the military on American Streets but you guys feel free to keep deflecting and defending and I’ll keep doing what I’m doing. Edited June 3, 2020 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: He is on record wanting to deploy the military on American Streets but you guys feel free to keep deflecting and defending and I’ll keep dosing what I’m doing. Wetting your pants and lighting your hair on fire? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted June 3, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Snake said: Wetting your pants and lighting your hair on fire? No pants wetting here and my hair is intact...your Man writes the material and I simply post it and then you and the rest come in and deflect, defend and kiss orange ass. It’s a fun little game. Now you have a nice day Moe and enjoy your new SxS. Edited June 3, 2020 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: No pants wetting here and my hair is intact...your Man writes the material and I simply post it and then you and the rest come in and deflect, defend and kiss orange ass. It’s a fun little game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: No pants wetting here and my hair is intact...your Man writes the material and I simply post it and then you and the rest come in and deflect, defend and kiss orange ass. It’s a fun little game. You and Spin Dork are quite the dynamic duo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spin_dry Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: He is on record wanting to deploy the military on American Streets but you guys feel free to keep deflecting and defending and I’ll keep doing what I’m doing. He’s a walking contradiction of bullshit. The only reason any of these people would want to serve is so that they could someday write a book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: They're a walking contradiction of bullshit. The only reason any of these people would want to serve is so that they could someday write a book. tuned it up a bit for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Bayonets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 9 hours ago, DriftBusta said: This is as far as I needed to go in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 8 hours ago, spin_dry said: Looking at America over the last few days, there’s a lot of us. Not nearly enough I'm afraid. 57 minutes ago, snoughnut said: tuned it up a bit for you None of these guys care about that crew. All stand up politicians, not like there's not a trove of video evidence that proves how duplicitious and corrupt they are.... 4 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Bayonets Second time you've used that phrase, you actually have one on your rifle? I'd recommend you keep it in the closet. 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: This is as far as I needed to go in this thread. That's one patriot against a whole bunch of empty blowhards, Antifa and SJWs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 9 hours ago, spin_dry said: The wheels are starting to wobble. I wonder why the 82nd airborne hasn’t been deployed as promised? as you know the state has to ask . and cunts like out govner and. Cuomo would rather see thete city burn than let trump help by sending in the military to control these looser criminals . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said: He is on record wanting to deploy the military on American Streets but you guys feel free to keep deflecting and defending and I’ll keep doing what I’m doing. yes and I for 1 am pissed off our weak leadership did not take him up on it . no it was better to have 2 more nights of looting and fire . yeah it was great . I am sure NY is much better off today than they would have been if the 82nd was on the street 3 nights ago . call them citizens as a shield if you like but reality is that are fucking terrorist criminals who deserve to be beat down in the street . or do you tho k it is ok to be setting fire to buildings even buildings with apartments above the retail looting shit starting cars on fire . yeah real American hero's. you are a real pile of shit if you think city's are better off letting this happen than calling in the army we pay for to keep order in the street that the goveners refuse to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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