snoughnut Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Mileage Psycho said: In the time since that OEM fuel injector grenaded I've purchased over a million dollars worth of GM vehicles, FUCK FORD Angry Jay’s head just exploded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 10 hours ago, ACE said: 6.2 has way more hp and ford nerds can’t understand why it’s faster You musta got the big HP's, everybody else got 420 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Ford limited little f150 with the Eco ho kills anything in gms offerings. Not even remotely funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, Kev144 said: Ford limited little f150 with the Eco ho kills anything in gms offerings. Not even remotely funny Really? It beats a ZL1? Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, Kev144 said: Ford limited little f150 with the Eco ho kills anything in gms offerings. Not even remotely funny wrong GMC AT4 w/ 6.2 FTMFW Ram has a long history of being whored out to keep sales up. GM has taken an approach to be profitable even if it means having lower sales. It's why they had to right size the number of plants they have although IMO for optics they should shutter a mexican one or make it export only and move all SUV/truck production back to the states. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rod Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 30 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: wrong GMC AT4 w/ 6.2 FTMFW Ram has a long history of being whored out to keep sales up. GM has taken an approach to be profitable even if it means having lower sales. It's why they had to right size the number of plants they have although IMO for optics they should shutter a mexican one or make it export only and move all SUV/truck production back to the states. 6.2 is such a simple engine to accomplish the goal too. A back yard mechanic can still fix it. I problem when it’s off warranty. Ford has always been brutal for complex solutions to simple problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, ACE said: 6.2 is such a simple engine to accomplish the goal too. A back yard mechanic can still fix it. I problem when it’s off warranty. Ford has always been brutal for complex solutions to simple problems GM's 6.2L with VVT and DI and DFM, Dynamic Fuel Management has 17 different cylinder patterns and samples fuel and power demands 80 times per second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 12 hours ago, Doos said: You know me, I love the 150 and think the current model is great. Last time around I wanted the 150 only for the EB, for what I got with the Ram it was a no brainer. I’ve been in the new Fords, nothing wrong with them. The Ram aside from the engine and trans is better than the 150. I could not be more impressed with the 20 Ram, it’s amazing. Had I gone with the one ton option I was considering it would have been Ford no question, first year engine and trans held me back though. Not bashing Ford, but I had a Expedition Limited last week and really missed the Ram. The stereo alone makes the difference, not to mention how much more quiet it is. My 13 Ram is the best truck I have ever owned and I wouldn't hesitate to own another one when the time comes. In fact, it is highly unlikely I will even look at another GM, let alone a Found On Road Dead. If I had no choice and had to drive a Ford, it would really suck having to drive it around at night only. Super quiet, peppy as fuck, comfortable, great sound system. The list goes on and on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tinker said: GM's 6.2L with VVT and DI and DFM, Dynamic Fuel Management has 17 different cylinder patterns and samples fuel and power demands 80 times per second Which is some easy hardware and the rest is all tuning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 50 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: wrong GMC AT4 w/ 6.2 FTMFW Ram has a long history of being whored out to keep sales up. GM has taken an approach to be profitable even if it means having lower sales. It's why they had to right size the number of plants they have although IMO for optics they should shutter a mexican one or make it export only and move all SUV/truck production back to the states. The at4 is very nice offering but the interior imo is the worst on the market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 21, 2020 Gold Member Share Posted February 21, 2020 Gm 6.2 with afm are not built for longevity. The valve train will shit the bed on them due to the complexity of the system. Common failure point when hitting the 100k mile point and beyond. $3600 to fix it. It’s not a matter of if, but a matter of when, the valve train gets jacked up on a 6.2 GM when out of warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Gm 6.2 with afm are not built for longevity. The valve train will shit the bed on them due to the complexity of the system. Common failure point when hitting the 100k mile point and beyond. $3600 to fix it. It’s not a matter of if, but a matter of when, the valve train gets jacked up on a 6.2 GM when out of warranty. Seldom goes but if it does you can fix it for around $300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 21, 2020 Gold Member Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ACE said: Seldom goes but if it does you can fix it for around $300 99.9 percent are going to take them in to get fixed when they go... over $3k. you could just as easily fix an ecoboost if you can fix the complicate afm system components on the gm’s Edited February 21, 2020 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, BOHICA said: 99.9 percent are going to take them in to get fixed when they go... you could just as easily fix an ecoboost if you can fix the complicate afm system components on the gm’s It’s not complicated at all. It’s just a lifter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 21, 2020 Gold Member Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, ACE said: It’s not complicated at all. It’s just a lifter It’s just a timing chain or turbo. About as complicated as a lifter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, BOHICA said: It’s just a timing chain or turbo. About as complicated as a lifter. Someone clearly is clueless with a wrench it’s you oops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 21, 2020 Gold Member Share Posted February 21, 2020 Gm also you have a chance of having a transmission that rivals the quality of the Ford Focus transmission..... the 8Lxx series of transmission that GM made. Run away fast from the models equipped with that transmission. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 21, 2020 Gold Member Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, ACE said: Someone clearly is clueless with a wrench it’s you oops Oh boy... a turbo is so hard to replace!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 21, 2020 Gold Member Share Posted February 21, 2020 https://www.autoblog.com/2019/04/25/gm-transmission-class-action-lawsuit/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franks pond Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 45 minutes ago, irv said: My 13 Ram is the best truck I have ever owned and I wouldn't hesitate to own another one when the time comes. In fact, it is highly unlikely I will even look at another GM, let alone a Found On Road Dead. If I had no choice and had to drive a Ford, it would really suck having to drive it around at night only. Super quiet, peppy as fuck, comfortable, great sound system. The list goes on and on. they do make a shitty gas cap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said: In the time since that OEM fuel injector grenaded I've purchased over a million dollars worth of GM vehicles, FUCK FORD Poor little Wincy- modifies truck, fucks it up, denied warranty= Fords fault What a stupid fuck you are 2 hours ago, snoughnut said: Angry Jay’s head just exploded. Not at all. He's a fucking idiot, just like you are 2 hours ago, Kev144 said: Ford limited little f150 with the Eco ho kills anything in gms offerings. Not even remotely funny Poor Gaped Anus 1 hour ago, Angry ginger said: wrong GMC AT4 w/ 6.2 FTMFW Ram has a long history of being whored out to keep sales up. GM has taken an approach to be profitable even if it means having lower sales. It's why they had to right size the number of plants they have although IMO for optics they should shutter a mexican one or make it export only and move all SUV/truck production back to the states. 3.5eb is way better SBYL 1 hour ago, ford_428cj said: yea, now maybe find one of Ford's CURRENT model , and not one that hasn't been made since '14 against Rams top of the line 1500. And not to mention, that's not even an Ecoboost. Good Lord you are dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said: In the time since that OEM fuel injector grenaded I've purchased over a million dollars worth of GM vehicles, FUCK FORD Fucking the boss bought 6 2500 and 3 3500s last year. Didn’t even ask ford for a bid. I think they are buying 6 this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 39 minutes ago, SVT MXZ XRS said: Poor little Wincy- modifies truck, fucks it up, denied warranty= Fords fault What a stupid fuck you are Not at all. He's a fucking idiot, just like you are Poor Gaped Anus 3.5eb is way better SBYL yea, now maybe find one of Ford's CURRENT model , and not one that hasn't been made since '14 against Rams top of the line 1500. And not to mention, that's not even an Ecoboost. Good Lord you are dumb Settle down you angry twat before you stroke out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Kev144 said: The at4 is very nice offering but the interior imo is the worst on the market the ram interior is by far the best. Fords is OK I'd say not much different than the GMC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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