UN report on climate change

[revkevsdi]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/un-emissions-report-1.5373154

Hell even Drug Ford and his moronic Energy Minister know it's real.

If those two idiots can figure it out, why can't the Trumpsters on here?

[jtssrx]

11 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/un-emissions-report-1.5373154

Hell even Drug Ford and his moronic Energy Minister know it's real.

If those two idiots can figure it out, why can't the Trumpsters on here?

How do you explain the warming of the past which was warmer than today.

Edited November 29, 2019 by jtssrx

[XCR1250]

The Malicious Intent Behind Climate Alarmism

The most important argument against climate alarmism centers around the proposed solutions.

“Solar is only during the day, solar only works best in places where it’s warm.

There’s no battery technology that’s even close to allowing us to take all of our energy from renewables and be able to use battery storage in order to deal not only with the 24-hour cycle but also with long periods of time where it’s cloudy and you don’t have sun or you don’t have wind

Power is about reliability. We need to get something that works reliably.”

– Bill Gates

Financial Times

We live in a society which is completely dependent on fossil fuels and/or nuclear energy. Our heat, water, power, transportation, manufacturing, food production and distribution systems; communication, medical, financial and every other critical system depend on an “always on” supply of energy.

As an example, at the turn of the last century, there was tremendous fear that the Y2K bug would make computers non-functional and collapse society.  An intermittent computer network due to a lack of reliable energy would have the same effect. Medical and financial services would be non-functional.

Most Americans have never gone without essential commodities, and take them for granted.  And many, like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, seem to have no understanding of the catastrophic consequences of running short of energy. People of her generation have never had to do without food, warmth, light or communications. They can’t function if they don’t have a strong phone signal, and have no concept of what a shortage of food, transportation or energy would be like.

The US has been experiencing record cold this winter.  What would the people of Illinois have done without continuously available heat, light and communications during the record cold snap of -38 degrees two weeks ago?  I flew over the Midwest on January 6, 2018 during a similar cold snap. The air was dead calm and wind turbines were useless.  People were completely dependent on fossil fuels and nuclear energy for their survival.

The reason winter is cold, is because of a lack of solar energy.  The sun is low in the sky, days are short, and it is cloudy much of the time.  Yet climate alarmists want people to be dependent on solar energy for their survival.  They imagine that there is some storage technology which can store huge amounts of energy for long periods of time when the sun isn’t shining or the wind isn’t blowing. But as Bill Gates pointed out, that technology doesn’t exist.

I have degrees in science and engineering, and have worked for most of the last 45 years as both. The job of scientists is to come up with ideas. By contrast, the primary job of engineers is to make things that work. If a bridge or a microprocessor, doesn’t work – very bad things will happen. Bad engineering is fatal to humans, companies and civilizations.

We need to have engineers making the technology decisions, not academic scientists and politicians – who have never had to deliver anything which works, and don’t have any understanding or experience with the processes required to make things work. Most academics and politicians have no clue what is going on behind the scenes of a technologically functional society.

An analogy would be climate forecasters vs weather forecasters. If a climate forecaster is wrong, few people remember or care in 30 years.  But if a weather forecaster is wrong, everyone knows and there are immediate consequences.

If the people of New York City (who elected Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) believe that we don’t need fossil fuels, why don’t they prove it to the world by eliminating fossil fuels usage in their own city?  They can end skepticism of their plan by eliminating gasoline, jet fuel and natural gas sales in their city. They should ban all electricity usage from sources other than solar, wind and nuclear. They should ban sale of all products manufactured or transported using fossil fuels.

Why didn’t Michael Bloomberg do this while he was mayor? The reason is simple – it is impossible. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s New Green Deal is impossible, and people in countries like China and India understand that.  That is why they are building more than 1,000 new coal fired power plants.

The US could disappear off the face of the Earth, and it would have minimal impact on atmospheric CO2 levels.  China produces more than twice as much CO2 as the US, and under the deal they made with President Obama, they will continue to increase their CO2 emissions until the year 2030.

FACT SHEET: U.S.-China Joint Announcement on Climate Change and Clean Energy Cooperation | whitehouse.gov

US emissions have been declining for a decade due to fracking, while Chinese emissions increased rapidly.

Climate Goals Pledged by China and the U.S. – The New York Times

The UN has been making the same claim that we only have twelve years to save the planet from global warming, for the past 30 years.

A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked

The claim is nonsense, the proposed solutions are unworkable, the US has minimal control over the level of atmospheric CO2, and the only viable conclusion is that the powerful people behind the scenes of the New Green Deal have extremely malicious intent. They refuse to allow any debate, censor all skepticism, and run academics out who resist climate alarmism.

We need to have a robust discussion about our energy future centered around engineers – not decisions based on hysteria by politicians and academics who don’t know the first thing about climate or energy.  The American people need to be educated, not fed propaganda and have their information sources censored. Our survival depends on an adequate supply of energy, not mindless hysteria and fear over an essential trace gas. Without carbon dioxide, life itself can not exist.

Without a reliable supply of energy, modern civilization can’t exist.

[jtssrx]

7 minutes ago, XCR1250 said:

The Malicious Intent Behind Climate Alarmism

The most important argument against climate alarmism centers around the proposed solutions.

“Solar is only during the day, solar only works best in places where it’s warm.

There’s no battery technology that’s even close to allowing us to take all of our energy from renewables and be able to use battery storage in order to deal not only with the 24-hour cycle but also with long periods of time where it’s cloudy and you don’t have sun or you don’t have wind

Power is about reliability. We need to get something that works reliably.”

– Bill Gates

Financial Times

We live in a society which is completely dependent on fossil fuels and/or nuclear energy. Our heat, water, power, transportation, manufacturing, food production and distribution systems; communication, medical, financial and every other critical system depend on an “always on” supply of energy.

As an example, at the turn of the last century, there was tremendous fear that the Y2K bug would make computers non-functional and collapse society.  An intermittent computer network due to a lack of reliable energy would have the same effect. Medical and financial services would be non-functional.

Most Americans have never gone without essential commodities, and take them for granted.  And many, like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, seem to have no understanding of the catastrophic consequences of running short of energy. People of her generation have never had to do without food, warmth, light or communications. They can’t function if they don’t have a strong phone signal, and have no concept of what a shortage of food, transportation or energy would be like.

The US has been experiencing record cold this winter.  What would the people of Illinois have done without continuously available heat, light and communications during the record cold snap of -38 degrees two weeks ago?  I flew over the Midwest on January 6, 2018 during a similar cold snap. The air was dead calm and wind turbines were useless.  People were completely dependent on fossil fuels and nuclear energy for their survival.

The reason winter is cold, is because of a lack of solar energy.  The sun is low in the sky, days are short, and it is cloudy much of the time.  Yet climate alarmists want people to be dependent on solar energy for their survival.  They imagine that there is some storage technology which can store huge amounts of energy for long periods of time when the sun isn’t shining or the wind isn’t blowing. But as Bill Gates pointed out, that technology doesn’t exist.

I have degrees in science and engineering, and have worked for most of the last 45 years as both. The job of scientists is to come up with ideas. By contrast, the primary job of engineers is to make things that work. If a bridge or a microprocessor, doesn’t work – very bad things will happen. Bad engineering is fatal to humans, companies and civilizations.

We need to have engineers making the technology decisions, not academic scientists and politicians – who have never had to deliver anything which works, and don’t have any understanding or experience with the processes required to make things work. Most academics and politicians have no clue what is going on behind the scenes of a technologically functional society.

An analogy would be climate forecasters vs weather forecasters. If a climate forecaster is wrong, few people remember or care in 30 years.  But if a weather forecaster is wrong, everyone knows and there are immediate consequences.

If the people of New York City (who elected Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) believe that we don’t need fossil fuels, why don’t they prove it to the world by eliminating fossil fuels usage in their own city?  They can end skepticism of their plan by eliminating gasoline, jet fuel and natural gas sales in their city. They should ban all electricity usage from sources other than solar, wind and nuclear. They should ban sale of all products manufactured or transported using fossil fuels.

Why didn’t Michael Bloomberg do this while he was mayor? The reason is simple – it is impossible. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s New Green Deal is impossible, and people in countries like China and India understand that.  That is why they are building more than 1,000 new coal fired power plants.

The US could disappear off the face of the Earth, and it would have minimal impact on atmospheric CO2 levels.  China produces more than twice as much CO2 as the US, and under the deal they made with President Obama, they will continue to increase their CO2 emissions until the year 2030.

FACT SHEET: U.S.-China Joint Announcement on Climate Change and Clean Energy Cooperation | whitehouse.gov

US emissions have been declining for a decade due to fracking, while Chinese emissions increased rapidly.

Climate Goals Pledged by China and the U.S. – The New York Times

The UN has been making the same claim that we only have twelve years to save the planet from global warming, for the past 30 years.

A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked

The claim is nonsense, the proposed solutions are unworkable, the US has minimal control over the level of atmospheric CO2, and the only viable conclusion is that the powerful people behind the scenes of the New Green Deal have extremely malicious intent. They refuse to allow any debate, censor all skepticism, and run academics out who resist climate alarmism.

We need to have a robust discussion about our energy future centered around engineers – not decisions based on hysteria by politicians and academics who don’t know the first thing about climate or energy.  The American people need to be educated, not fed propaganda and have their information sources censored. Our survival depends on an adequate supply of energy, not mindless hysteria and fear over an essential trace gas. Without carbon dioxide, life itself can not exist.

Without a reliable supply of energy, modern civilization can’t exist.

Simply read the Paris accord and see how the only country in the world that was penalized was United States. The worst polluters if you want to label CO2 pollution China and India we’re not held accountable at all by that agreement. I watched a really cool video about it That basically said anybody could sign onto the agreement and write what they were and do it didn’t matter what they wrote in China and India basically wrote a bunch of garbage then claim they were part of the if it

[snopro31]

40 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/un-emissions-report-1.5373154

Hell even Drug Ford and his moronic Energy Minister know it's real.

If those two idiots can figure it out, why can't the Trumpsters on here?

Please list what you have done to reduce your emissions to save the world.  Also if the world doesn't end in 11.2 years, please live stream your suicide.

[XCR1250]

34 minutes ago, snopro31 said:

Please list what you have done to reduce your emissions to save the world.  Also if the world doesn't end in 11.2 years, please live stream your suicide.

He should have suicided years ago:

The UN has been making the same claim that we only have twelve years to save the planet from global warming, for the past 30 years.

A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

 

 

[mtnloverxtreme2]

dont like the fucker, there is good points in this

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/11/19/climate-alarmists-hide-from-debate-stossel-sets-it-straight/

[ArcticCrusher]

2 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/un-emissions-report-1.5373154

Hell even Drug Ford and his moronic Energy Minister know it's real.

If those two idiots can figure it out, why can't the Trumpsters on here?

Wow, Einstein's at the UN figured out the climate is changing.  

[revkevsdi]

2 hours ago, jtssrx said:

How do you explain the warming of the past which was warmer than today.

I don’t explain it. I trust climate scientists. 
 

I don’t try to explain how a microscopic cancer cell can kill people.   I trust the Phd’s 

I don’t walk around saying “sugar and tobacco is natural and natives use to smoke how could that be bad for you?”

[revkevsdi]

40 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Wow, Einstein's at the UN figured out the climate is changing.  

Dumb fuckers like you don’t understand it and say “ Derp, it’s cold in the winter how can there be global warming?”Which incidentally is the kind of crap Ford and his energy minister use to say. 
 

[XCR1250]

that "Hockey Stick" working??LOL

[XCR1250]

A RECORD OF HOT SUMMERS.

IN 637 the heat was so great in France and Germany that all springs dried up, and water became so scarce that many people died of thirst.

In 873 work in the field had to be given up ; agricultural labourers persisting in their work were struck down in a few minutes, so powerful was the sun.

In 993 the sun’s rays were so fierce that vegetation burned up as under the action of fire.

In 1000 rivers ran dry under the protracted heat ; the fish were left dry in heaps, and putrified in a few hours. The stench that ensued produced the plague.

Men and animals venturing in the sun in the summer of 1022 fell down dying; the throat parched to a tinder and the blood rushed to the brain.

In 1132 not only did the rivers dry up but the ground cracked on every side, and became baked to the hardness of stone. The Rhine in Alsace nearly dried up.

Italy was visited with terrific heat in 1139; vegetations and plants were burned up.

During the battle of Bela, in 1260, there were more victims made by the sun than by weapons; men fell down sunstruck in regular rows.

In 1303 and 1304 the Rhine, Loire, and Seine ran dry.

Scotland suffered particularly in 1625; men and beasts die in scores.

The heat in several French departments during the summer of 1705 was equal to that in a glass furnace. Meat could be cooked by merely exposing it to the sun. Not a soul dared venture out between noon and 4 p.m.

In 1718 the thermometer rose to 118 deg.

In 1779 the heat at Bologna was so great that a great number of people was stifled. There was not sufficient air for the breath, and people had to take refuge under-ground.

In July, 1793, the heat became intolerable. Vegetables were burned up, and fruit dried upon the trees. The furniture and woodwork in dwelling-houses cracked and split up; meat went bad in an hour.

The rivers ran dry in several provinces during 1811; expedients had to be devised for the grinding of corn.

In 1822 a protracted heat was accompanied by storms and earthquakes; during the drought legions of mice overran Lorraine and Alsace, committing incalculable damage.

In 1832 the heat brought about cholera in France; 20,000 persons fell victims to the visitation in Paris alone.

In 1846 the thermometer marked 125 deg. in the sun.

[Rigid1]

4 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

I don’t explain it. I trust climate scientists. 
 

I don’t try to explain how a microscopic cancer cell can kill people.   I trust the Phd’s 

I don’t walk around saying “sugar and tobacco is natural and natives use to smoke how could that be bad for you?”

Curious, are their other scientists that say the opposite?

[Rod]

15 minutes ago, Rigid1 said:

Curious, are their other scientists that say the opposite?

*kevvy boomboom barfs and shits while convulsing BIG OIL FUNDED*

[jtssrx]

1 hour ago, revkevsdi said:

I don’t explain it. I trust climate scientists. 
 

I don’t try to explain how a microscopic cancer cell can kill people.   I trust the Phd’s 

I don’t walk around saying “sugar and tobacco is natural and natives use to smoke how could that be bad for you?”

You can’t explain it because you’re a little sheep that listens to what ever he’s told. 

[Ez ryder]

4 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/un-emissions-report-1.5373154

Hell even Drug Ford and his moronic Energy Minister know it's real.

If those two idiots can figure it out, why can't the Trumpsters on here?

lol well if the UN is on board lmfao such a fucking tool 

[ArcticCrusher]

2 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

Dumb fuckers like you don’t understand it and say “ Derp, it’s cold in the winter how can there be global warming?”Which incidentally is the kind of crap Ford and his energy minister use to say. 
 

Thankfully for them there is no shortage of dumb fucks like yourself.

 

Edited November 30, 2019 by ArcticCrusher

[ManOnManOral]

Some sweet sanity does remain in the Canadian press. REX NAILS IT.https://nationalpost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-the-artful-majesty-of-trudeaus-new-cabinet/amp?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fnationalpost.com%2Fopinion%2Frex-murphy-the-artful-majesty-of-trudeaus-new-cabinet

[bussman]

The UN needs to be destroyed at all costs. Fuck those evil assholes. 

[Ez ryder]

4 hours ago, snopro31 said:

Please list what you have done to reduce your emissions to save the world.  Also if the world doesn't end in 11.2 years, please live stream your suicide.

I will pay to watch that .

more if by gun with a white backdrop 

Edited November 30, 2019 by Ez ryder

[revkevsdi]

1 hour ago, jtssrx said:

You can’t explain it because you’re a little sheep that listens to what ever he’s told. 

You have people around the globe that believe the world is flat. 
 

It’s the same as climate deniers.  You’ve believed bullshit for so long you can’t back down. 

[revkevsdi]

1 hour ago, ManOnManOral said:

Some sweet sanity does remain in the Canadian press. REX NAILS IT.https://nationalpost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-the-artful-majesty-of-trudeaus-new-cabinet/amp?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fnationalpost.com%2Fopinion%2Frex-murphy-the-artful-majesty-of-trudeaus-new-cabinet

Ok. A truck driver is smarter than 11,000 phd’s. How could I have listened to them instead a fat opinionated fucktard like you?

[irv]

1 minute ago, revkevsdi said:

You have people around the globe that believe the world is flat. 
 

It’s the same as climate deniers.  You’ve believed bullshit for so long you can’t back down. 

 

[jtssrx]

2 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

You have people around the globe that believe the world is flat. 
 

It’s the same as climate deniers.  You’ve believed bullshit for so long you can’t back down. 

One has nothing to do with the other. You use Strawman arguments because you can’t defend your stance   

[XCR1250]