ArcticCrusher Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, 02sled said: For many small businesses it may even come to what is the incentive to even be in business. If someone has a business worth say $5M and they can earn more by simply investing that money than they can operating that business they just may close up shop. They maintain their lifestyle with none of the headaches. Then all those employees that Fail believes are entitled to the profits more so than the owner of the business are now unemployed and collecting EI. What Truedope and Wynnebag can do is create an environment where it is financially profitable to do business in Canada and Ontario Esp as they get closer to retirement, it becomes a serious question. Trudeau and Wynnebag think punishing successful people will help stimulate the economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 14 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: that is the whole point - PROFITS PROFITS PROFITS like no others - "you should be lucky to have a job in this economy" " don't like your job leave it" "you are a worthless employee shut the fuck up or I will replace you" If we don't grow in every single 1/4 year in and year out something has to give, and in most cases its to lower wages and less bennies. Capitalism "It's the darling of the business world" But you didn't answer me about the shitty pay/benefits package. Maybe we should adopt Cuba's model where everyone from the Wallymart greeter to airline pilots get the same monthly salary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 20 minutes ago, 02sled said: For many small businesses it may even come to what is the incentive to even be in business. If someone has a business worth say $5M and they can earn more by simply investing that money than they can operating that business they just may close up shop. They maintain their lifestyle with none of the headaches. Then all those employees that Fail believes are entitled to the profits more so than the owner of the business are now unemployed and collecting EI. What Truedope and Wynnebag can do is create an environment where it is financially profitable to do business in Canada and Ontario you mean like 18% less business taxes compared to the usa and this is trudope thread not wynne Ontario It is profitable in Canada wtf are you talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 11 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Esp as they get closer to retirement, it becomes a serious question. Trudeau and Wynnebag think punishing successful people will help stimulate the economy. There is only so much room for businesses if you wish to close up please do so and let someone else making the millions - simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 minute ago, 1trailmaker said: you mean like 18% less business taxes compared to the usa and this is trudope thread not wynne Ontario It is profitable in Canada wtf are you talking about Your bus is taxed on retained income at 15% and then again when that money is taken out. Look at the dividend tax rates from 2013 to today to see a libtard pattern. Trudeau added 5% to that for 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, revrnd said: "It's the darling of the business world" But you didn't answer me about the shitty pay/benefits package. Maybe we should adopt Cuba's model where everyone from the Wallymart greeter to airline pilots get the same monthly salary? Maybe we should, take free services like Hydro, water and gas. zero homeless and welfare and sunny weather lol Most workers get zero benefits but you knew that, our goal is to have no bennies for anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: There is only so much room for businesses if you wish to close up please do so and let someone else making the millions - simple Feel free to step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 23 minutes ago, 02sled said: Give it about 3 weeks Fail. $0.043 per litre at the pump straight to the province and don't forget they will also charge HST on that as well. That will take far more than the minuscule change in income tax. Then there's the additional cost for natural gas to heat and cook with and so on Ontario is not Trudope which is the topic. And gas just went up 10cents and no one blinked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 minute ago, 1trailmaker said: Maybe we should, take free services like Hydro, water and gas. zero homeless and welfare and sunny weather lol Most workers get zero benefits but you knew that, our goal is to have no bennies for anyone If you can call those homes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 21 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Look at the dividend tax rates over the years to see a pattern from the Tards. I seriously don't know how you get through a day. http://www.taxtips.ca/taxrates/on.htm All I see is what Harper did you claim he made it better now you are saying he didn't can't make this shit up - sorry about your luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Your bus is taxed on retained income at 15% and then again when that money is taken out. Look at the dividend tax rates from 2013 to today to see a libtard pattern. Trudeau added 5% to that for 2016. link and not your bullshit ones, give me a link to the direct increases - And just to point out Canada is more than a business, regular people are the masses - you still claiming increases when its not the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 minute ago, 1trailmaker said: All I see is what Harper did you claim he made it better now you are saying he didn't can't make this shit up - sorry about your luck Harper never raised the tax rates, Wynnebag did. When they lowered the corp taxed rate, they offset it by raising the dividend tax rate to stay neutral with the personal ones. Now is no longer the case, its all Trudeau's addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 6 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Feel free to step up. On my way out - I will leave it to the younger more needy to be able to buy a house in Toronto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 minute ago, 1trailmaker said: link and not your bullshit ones, give me a link to the direct increases - And just to point out Canada is more than a business, regular people are the masses - you still claiming increases when its not the truth I gave you the 2016 link, here is the 2013/2014. http://www.taxtips.ca/priortaxrates/tax-rates-2013-2014/on.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: you mean like 18% less business taxes compared to the usa and this is trudope thread not wynne Ontario It is profitable in Canada wtf are you talking about There are lots of businesses operating on extremely lean margins and just squeaking by. Small businesses account for 97.9 percent of all firms in Canada and proportionally play a large role in net job creation. Last year the total number of SME births was 78,430, compared with 83,240 deaths, which resulted in a net decrease of 4,810 businesses. If Truedope and Wynnebag (yes they go hand in hand - both Fiberals with an impact on the most commercialized province in the country) had actually created a business friendly environment. maybe a lot less of those 83,240 businesses that failed would still be in business. What Fail... you suddenly have a problem with a reference to Wynnebag... you are the poster child trying to always deflect to others in a thread. Edited December 5, 2016 by 02sled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: Harper never raised the tax rates, Wynnebag did. When they lowered the corp taxed rate, they offset it by raising the dividend tax rate to stay neutral with the personal ones. Now is no longer the case, its all Trudeau's addition. sorry 15% to 15.25% for lower end employees - then took it off the next year and it stayed the same across the board for 9 years until Trudope lowered it for near 1/2 Canadians nice try AC - there is no use since Harper did all good and Trudeau will do all bad - common posts here, enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: I gave you the 2016 link, here is the 2013/2014. http://www.taxtips.ca/priortaxrates/tax-rates-2013-2014/on.htm Ontario again :rolleyes: I suggest you move to a better province if you can find one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 13 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: Ontario is not Trudope which is the topic. And gas just went up 10cents and no one blinked Wake up Fail. Truedope gave all the provinces an ultimatum... implement a carbon tax on your own or he will do it for you... remember that little tidbit from your saviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, 02sled said: There are lots of businesses operating on extremely lean margins and just squeaking by. Small businesses account for 97.9 percent of all firms in Canada and proportionally play a large role in net job creation. Last year the total number of SME births was 78,430, compared with 83,240 deaths, which resulted in a net decrease of 4,810 businesses. If Truedope and Wynnebag (yes they go hand in hand - both Fiberals with an impact on the most commercialized province in the country) had actually created a business friendly environment. maybe a lot less of those 83,240 businesses that failed would still be in business. So your idea is all businesses should succeed - pretty funny There is only room for so many, and 1000's of businesses fold in under 5 years, this is fact nothing new. Is it because of taxes or just plain old shitty run companies funny how you put every business owner on a pedestal.... Just because you go and pay your money for a license doesn't mean shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 minute ago, 02sled said: Wake up Fail. Truedope gave all the provinces an ultimatum... implement a carbon tax on your own or he will do it for you... remember that little tidbit from your saviour. I know I am against it - next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: So your idea is all businesses should succeed - pretty funny There is only room for so many, and 1000's of businesses fold in under 5 years, this is fact nothing new. Is it because of taxes or just plain old shitty run companies funny how you put every business owner on a pedestal.... Just because you go and pay your money for a license doesn't mean shit Dumb as a post as always... yes businesses will fail and always will but the bottom line of a business failure is more expense than income.... if the government didn't throw so many fees and taxes into the mix those profits may well have increased enough for that business to survive. More business survival = good. Nobody is on a pedestal but the business owners are the ones taking all the risk. Edited December 5, 2016 by 02sled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: Ontario again :rolleyes: I suggest you move to a better province if you can find one 2015 to 2016 all Trudeau. http://www.taxtips.ca/priortaxrates/tax-rates-2015-2016/on.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 10 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: sorry 15% to 15.25% for lower end employees - then took it off the next year and it stayed the same across the board for 9 years until Trudope lowered it for near 1/2 Canadians nice try AC - there is no use since Harper did all good and Trudeau will do all bad - common posts here, enjoy 15% are the job creators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 35 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: 15% are the job creators. come on dummy - who spends the money to move the economy don't be stupid - without the people buying shit, business wouldn't make a cent - holy fuck how you can write off 85% of the population is amazing. I will take my income tax break that I haven't seen in 18 years thank you Justin and thank you Jean - Harper gave me nothing you can enjoy business taxes going down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 guess which one is you and which is me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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