Justin Trudeau is Doing a Great Job

[revrnd]

1 hour ago, 02sled said:

Holy Crap... you actually believe the BS lies about the economy and balanced budget Wynnebag spews. You know how to tell if Wynnebag is lying. It's easy her lips are moving.

Everyone outside of the provincial finance ministry with any expertise in finance says their manipulation of the numbers goes against all the accounting principles accepted in the industry

Didn't they get caught stating debt as an asset?

[1trailmaker]

1 hour ago, 02sled said:

Holy Crap... you actually believe the BS lies about the economy and balanced budget Wynnebag spews. You know how to tell if Wynnebag is lying. It's easy her lips are moving.

Everyone outside of the provincial finance ministry with any expertise in finance says their manipulation of the numbers goes against all the accounting principles accepted in the industry

I know, that is the point Harper did the exact same thing.  Mystery balance from 10 billion to balanced in a few months -  You lapped a nut sack over that...

Point is spending to keep Ontario on Top - its good for Harper but not Wynne? 

 

Facts are our governments all spend money - the quick you get off the Conservative nut sack the quicker you will understand what is going on.

If you think Brown is just going to come in and make it all better, you are NAIVE ( well we know you are anyway)

 

Without a platform produced I can tell you will vote for Brown and Than Andrew in the federal election - no doubt and no chance of anyone else getting your vote.  Why not just fill them out for the rest of your life -  your vote is worthless ONEWAY

[ArcticCrusher]

4 minutes ago, revrnd said:

Didn't they get caught stating debt as an asset?

Yes they did, even so they are adding like 20 billion a year to the net debt, so how exactly is the budget balanced?

[revrnd]

17 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

  classic just nails it

Glad you saw the humour in it ;-) Some of the folks on the NP's Faceplant page didn't think it was funny.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/trudeau-apologizes-to-residential-school-students-1.3692126

Sounds like he's giving a eulogy @ a funeral.

Just 1 of the 'voices'/routines like the chap in the video demonstrated. I'm surprised he didn't do the 'loud & forceful' schtick.

[1trailmaker]

3 minutes ago, revrnd said:

Glad you saw the humour in it ;-) Some of the folks on the NP's Faceplant page didn't think it was funny.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/trudeau-apologizes-to-residential-school-students-1.3692126

Sounds like he's giving a eulogy @ a funeral.

Just 1 of the 'voices'/routines like the chap in the video demonstrated. I'm surprised he didn't do the 'loud & forceful' schtick.

Yes I get humour unlike you guys when I post funny shit about Harper   

Who doesn't think Trudeau speaks in a bazaar way

[revrnd]

Just now, 1trailmaker said:

Yes I get humour unlike you guys when I post funny shit about Harper   

Who doesn't think Trudeau speaks in a bazaar way

It's bizarre, but I get your point. It's like his diction/delivery is so predictable depending on the situation.

[ArcticCrusher]

1 minute ago, 1trailmaker said:

Yes I get humour unlike you guys when I post funny shit about Harper   

Who doesn't think Trudeau speaks in a bazaar way

Yah that's it.

[1trailmaker]

Just now, revrnd said:

It's bizarre, but I get your point. It's like his diction/delivery is so predictable depending on the situation.

when he delivers a prepared speech he doesn't ah um an na da um ah at all

[02sled]

23 minutes ago, revrnd said:

Didn't they get caught stating debt as an asset?

Yup... that's the flaky accounting practice everyone outside of the government says is bogus.

[02sled]

19 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Yes they did, even so they are adding like 20 billion a year to the net debt, so how exactly is the budget balanced?

And in the last  week or so Wynnebags minister got caught in yet another BS lie. He says that the $15 minimum wage will not affect inflation in any way. A few days later he admits that parents will likely see a significant rise in their day care costs. Then today Wynnebag and the same idiot minister announce that parents will not see an increase in their costs because the province will eat the increase. They'll just pull that extra money out of their secret stash of magical cash aka the taxpayers pocket.

[revrnd]

All over the news today:

http://www.bnn.ca/sobeys-cutting-800-jobs-as-part-of-ceo-s-turnaround-plan-1.924610

"It's only 800 jobs, spread over 10 provinces, it's not a big deal", probably is how the Morneau would react. Add to it the Loblaws layoffs announced in Oct' & I don't think anyone should say that things are rosy.

[1trailmaker]

20 minutes ago, revrnd said:

All over the news today:

http://www.bnn.ca/sobeys-cutting-800-jobs-as-part-of-ceo-s-turnaround-plan-1.924610

"It's only 800 jobs, spread over 10 provinces, it's not a big deal", probably is how the Morneau would react. Add to it the Loblaws layoffs announced in Oct' & I don't think anyone should say that things are rosy.

YOU will see more of the giants doing this in protest, after the dust settles they will rehire to bring up the numbers to what is needed again.   I remember the end of the world going to 10 an hour, same thing happened by the same companies

[revrnd]

Surprising to see this in the Star:

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2017/11/23/morneau-and-trudeau-are-looking-out-for-the-rich.html

Quote

In recent years, corporations have been obliging their new employees to accept these riskier pensions, and in 2014, the Harper government pushed things farther in this corporate-friendly direction. It proposed changes enabling companies to convert old-style pensions into the new riskier format, effectively changing the rules in midstream for workers and retirees who’d spent years paying into their plans. Workers were outraged.

Justin Trudeau, then merely leader of the opposition Liberal Party, sided strongly with the outraged workers, denouncing Harper’s pension changes as “wrong in principle” and “unacceptable.”

But, after Trudeau became prime minister in 2015, workers were surprised when his new government quietly introduced a strikingly similar version of Harper’s pension changes.

Trudeau’s dramatic change-of-heart seems almost certainly connected to Morneau who, as head of Morneau Shepell before entering politics in 2014, had strongly favoured Harper’s proposed pension changes and stood to profit from them.

 

[1trailmaker]

7 minutes ago, revrnd said:

Surprising to see this in the Star:

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2017/11/23/morneau-and-trudeau-are-looking-out-for-the-rich.html

 

what is the surprise?  The Star has always reported the news as they see it.

[dirtybeacher]

[02sled]

1 hour ago, dirtybeacher said:

That's his ego to a T. Saviour of the world

[revrnd]

I think this clown needs a more professional web designer to look after the site:

http://wpin.polinsys.com/joystephen/

[02sled]

Trudope really needs to start paying attention to what's going on in Canada instead of trying to save the world by interfering in the policies of foreign countries.

First according to Trudope CRA says they are going after employee discounts as a taxable benefit. When the uproar starts Trudope says they made that announcement on their own and it will not be taxed. Sounds like they are out of control and incompetent, much like his government.

If you can actually get through to CRA on the phone, 30% or more of the callers are getting incorrect information.

http://torontosun.com/news/national/hello-cra-are-you-there-canada-revenue-agency-giving-bad-advice-if-callers-can-get-through-ag

Ferguson’s auditors also found that more than half of the 53.5 million calls that came in to the call centre during the audit period had to be blocked, since the system lacked the capacity to handle them. That meant callers either heard a busy signal or a message asking that they try back later.

Actual agents answered only 36% of all incoming calls — the rest of those that weren’t blocked were directed to an automated self-serve system — and provided incorrect information to auditors about 30% of the time.

Those numbers fly in the face of the agency’s own claims that 90% of callers are able to connect when they reach out for service either through the self-service centre or by speaking to an agent.

http://business.financialpost.com/personal-finance/cra-blocks-more-than-half-of-calls-to-meet-performance-standards-regularly-provides-wrong-information-to-taxpayers-auditor-general

Perhaps some of the $B's Trudope pissed away to 3rd world countries to try and get Apu to stop cooking his dinner and heating his hut with a fire could help fix the situation.

 

Edited November 26, 2017 by 02sled

[1trailmaker]

35 minutes ago, 02sled said:

Trudope really needs to start paying attention to what's going on in Canada instead of trying to save the world by interfering in the policies of foreign countries.

First according to Trudope CRA says they are going after employee discounts as a taxable benefit. When the uproar starts Trudope says they made that announcement on their own and it will not be taxed. Sounds like they are out of control and incompetent, much like his government.

If you can actually get through to CRA on the phone, 30% or more of the callers are getting incorrect information.

http://torontosun.com/news/national/hello-cra-are-you-there-canada-revenue-agency-giving-bad-advice-if-callers-can-get-through-ag

Ferguson’s auditors also found that more than half of the 53.5 million calls that came in to the call centre during the audit period had to be blocked, since the system lacked the capacity to handle them. That meant callers either heard a busy signal or a message asking that they try back later.

Actual agents answered only 36% of all incoming calls — the rest of those that weren’t blocked were directed to an automated self-serve system — and provided incorrect information to auditors about 30% of the time.

Those numbers fly in the face of the agency’s own claims that 90% of callers are able to connect when they reach out for service either through the self-service centre or by speaking to an agent.

http://business.financialpost.com/personal-finance/cra-blocks-more-than-half-of-calls-to-meet-performance-standards-regularly-provides-wrong-information-to-taxpayers-auditor-general

Perhaps some of the $B's Trudope pissed away to 3rd world countries to try and get Apu to stop cooking his dinner and heating his hut with a fire could help fix the situation.

 

Throw money at it?    that is your answer every time   

They need to fix the employees pay first

[ArcticCrusher]

16 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

Throw money at it?    that is your answer every time   

They need to fix the employees pay first

They need to fix the employees first.  Are you really surprised they give out wrong or bad advice?

[02sled]

22 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

Throw money at it?    that is your answer every time   

They need to fix the employees pay first

You really have been drinking the Trudope KoolAid. You seem to forget that everything costs money. NOTHING IS FREE. It's fine in your delusional fantasy world to think that throwing $B's at climate change in 3rd world countries, which we are virtually powerless to stop mother nature from doing is good. Spending that money at home to fix a system that is just plain broken is bad. It might be a good and novel idea for Trudope to give a damn about Canada rather than places like Pacific Asia and Mayanmar.

You're kind of right for a rare change. They need to fix the employee pay. Not necessarily first, but too, at the same time as fixing other things that are just plain screwed up.

Any implementation of a new system in business has a back out plan in place as part of the implementation. If it doesn't work you back out to the old system until you fix and test the system again before you try implementation yet again. That's business though. Government isn't bright enough to do that.

[1trailmaker]

30 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

They need to fix the employees first.  Are you really surprised they give out wrong or bad advice?

actually I am, I feel if you call the revenue office for tax related law and rules you should get the correct answer.

 

Your notion that every Government employee is useless is laughable, I am pretty sure you can think of one leech that is okay  

[1trailmaker]

24 minutes ago, 02sled said:

You really have been drinking the Trudope KoolAid. You seem to forget that everything costs money. NOTHING IS FREE. It's fine in your delusional fantasy world to think that throwing $B's at climate change in 3rd world countries, which we are virtually powerless to stop mother nature from doing is good. Spending that money at home to fix a system that is just plain broken is bad. It might be a good and novel idea for Trudope to give a damn about Canada rather than places like Pacific Asia and Mayanmar.

You're kind of right for a rare change. They need to fix the employee pay. Not necessarily first, but too, at the same time as fixing other things that are just plain screwed up.

Any implementation of a new system in business has a back out plan in place as part of the implementation. If it doesn't work you back out to the old system until you fix and test the system again before you try implementation yet again. That's business though. Government isn't bright enough to do that.

Yes they need to fix Phoenix first, its been way too long fucking over people.  

the ones being short changed on their pay will be okay when they get lump sum pay back.  the ones over  paid will be hurting if they spent that money. 

The ones not being paid should get help from the employer if needed with bills and stuff.

[02sled]

12 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

Yes they need to fix Phoenix first, its been way too long fucking over people.  

the ones being short changed on their pay will be okay when they get lump sum pay back.  the ones over  paid will be hurting if they spent that money. 

The ones not being paid should get help from the employer if needed with bills and stuff.

Bottom line... they should have backed out of the implementation when it flopped rather than stupidly trying to keep it alive. The old system was working.

[1trailmaker]

9 minutes ago, 02sled said:

Bottom line... they should have backed out of the implementation when it flopped rather than stupidly trying to keep it alive. The old system was working.

What we have is just another Private company raping the taxpayer for millions, IBM should be ashamed of itself.  There should be a total backlash against the company until its fixed.  

Sooner or later you have to upgrade in this day and age, pretty sure the old system was terminated for a reason.

So now Oracle is going to have a crack at fixing the issues, if this fails they might just go with a system that already works