Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted October 25, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 25, 2019 Some 40 days after United Automobile Workers walked off the job, picketing General Motors plants and grinding operations to a halt, the labor union's members have ratified the tentative deal their representatives struck with the automaker earlier this month. The UAW announced the deal's approval after voting ended Friday. Employees will return to work as instructed by GM. The contract was approved by 57.2%. UAW Vice President Terry Dittes said the union is proud of the workers. "Their sacrifice and courageous stand addressed the two-tier wages structure and permanent temporary worker classification that has plagued working class Americans." The UAW says the contract includes an economic package of an $11,000 per member signing bonus, performance bonuses, two 3% annual raises and two 4% lump sum payments and holding the line on health care costs. But GM will close three U.S. factories. The contract brings workers hired after 2007 up to the same wage as older workers in four years, and keeps worker health benefits with low premiums. "GM also agreed to give temporary workers some paid time off and allow them to apply for open full-time jobs after three years as a temp," according to Michigan Public Radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 How long before trump takes credit for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 57.2% Definitely not full support. Reality shows that about 57% of the workers don't save enough to get through a strike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted October 25, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 25, 2019 Bout damn time! In what, four years we can do this all over again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 57%? There will be lots of infighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 5 hours ago, awful knawful said: 57%? There will be lots of infighting. You can count on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 16 hours ago, racer254 said: 57.2% Definitely not full support. Reality shows that about 57% of the workers don't save enough to get through a strike. That's why 2 tier pay doesn't work 5 hours ago, awful knawful said: 57%? There will be lots of infighting. Lol, no there won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 UAW is a slow sinking ship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 31 minutes ago, SVT MXZ XRS said: That's why 2 tier pay doesn't work Lol, no there won't. Oh, Your preaching to the choir. The UAW should have never agreed to that in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, racer254 said: Oh, Your preaching to the choir. The UAW should have never agreed to that in the first place. Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yami123 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Still takes 8 years to get to top pay what a crock 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 26 minutes ago, yami123 said: Still takes 8 years to get to top pay what a crock 🙄 what a world where that is even considered to be an issue. what jobs outside union shops get to full pay in that little time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: what a world where that is even considered to be an issue. what jobs outside union shops get to full pay in that little time Esp the ones that take more than 15 minutes to fully master. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yami123 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Spoken like 2 people who have never spent a second on the line. Everyone is quick to judge how “easy” it is and their incredibly wrong. CEOS lining their pockets with millions off our work. But we’re the bad guys 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yami123 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 And I’m not saying we have it bad by any means, but most are quick to think we sit around all day while the cars build themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, yami123 said: Spoken like 2 people who have never spent a second on the line. Everyone is quick to judge how “easy” it is and their incredibly wrong. CEOS lining their pockets with millions off our work. But we’re the bad guys 🤔 never said it was easy but in no other job are you getting top rate in less than 8 years. And the CEO pay is immaterial, divide it up among the rest of the workers and it might get you a night out to dinner at someplace cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yami123 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: never said it was easy but in no other job are you getting top rate in less than 8 years. And the CEO pay is immaterial, divide it up among the rest of the workers and it might get you a night out to dinner at someplace cheap Everyone is entitled to their own opinion I just think 4-5 years is much more reasonable. 8 years is quite a long time especially if your working next to someone doing the same exact work for the same exact hours and their making twice the money. Equal work for equal pay IMO. Edited October 26, 2019 by yami123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted October 27, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 27, 2019 12 hours ago, yami123 said: Everyone is entitled to their own opinion I just think 4-5 years is much more reasonable. 8 years is quite a long time especially if your working next to someone doing the same exact work for the same exact hours and their making twice the money. Equal work for equal pay IMO. There is only so much payroll to go around. If the rookies make the same , that is less the veterans can make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA Contributing Member $poorsledder$ Posted October 27, 2019 USA Contributing Member Share Posted October 27, 2019 8 years to get to top pay. What is the top pay? if it’s so bad then look for other employment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted October 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 27, 2019 Such huge concerns....LOL Meanwhile the rest of the auto industry is still trying to work through layoffs, forced pay cuts and furloughs so the UAW can get top pay in a few years time SMH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yami123 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Skidooski said: Such huge concerns....LOL Meanwhile the rest of the auto industry is still trying to work through layoffs, forced pay cuts and furloughs so the UAW can get top pay in a few years time SMH LOL labor costs are a VERY small percentage of the cost of a new vehicle. Those vehicles built in Mexico where they make less then $2 an hour are no cheaper then vehicles built here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, yami123 said: LOL labor costs are a VERY small percentage of the cost of a new vehicle. Those vehicles built in Mexico where they make less then $2 an hour are no cheaper then vehicles built here. Everybody knows why they are building cars down there. To make more profit. If you thought the price would go down you just may be an idiot. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted October 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, yami123 said: LOL labor costs are a VERY small percentage of the cost of a new vehicle. Those vehicles built in Mexico where they make less then $2 an hour are no cheaper then vehicles built here. So go start a union in Mexico then. Better yet...find a way to negotiate where it doesn't end up fucking the rest of the auto industry and state of MI as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Skidooski said: So go start a union in Mexico then. Better yet...find a way to negotiate where it doesn't end up fucking the rest of the auto industry and state of MI as a whole. Yeah like they give a fuck about anybody but themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted October 27, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Yeah like they give a fuck about anybody but themselves. Everyone else suffers so they can get what they feel they are owed...fuck all that. they need to find a better way or find a better job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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