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Truth, Lies, and the Nonsense Trump-Biden-Ukraine False Equivalency

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Democrats Panic Over Biden-Ukraine Scandal As MSM Hits Full Spin Cycle

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As Joe Biden plummets in the popularity, Democratic lawmakers and the MSM have gone into panic mode after a whistleblower report of political malfeasance during a July phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky about the Biden family's dealings turned out to be fake news.

Since the initial report, the Trump-Zelensky call has been downgraded to remove implications of a quid pro quo - and attention is now turning to what the Bidens actually did.
 

“The real story involves Hunter Biden going around the world and collecting large payments from foreign governments and foreign oligarchs.” Peter Schweizer Laura Ingraham Hunter made a fortune in Ukraine and in China. He knew nothing about Energy, or anything else.

 
 
 
 
And to protect Biden - who is still the Democratic 2020 frontrunner (barely), the media is simply ignoring the facts in order to peddle an election interference narrative.

"They want to bypass the fact that Joe Biden, in his own words, in multiple interviews, said that he threw the straw and had to go to the Ukraine and have a conversation and tell them to fire the individual that was doing the investigation into his son...," former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski told Breitbart News on Saturday - adding that the new narrative is "Oh, my God, Donald Trump might have had a conversation, asking if there was anything done” related to the Hunter Biden investigation while they hyperventilate about Trump talking to Zelensky."

"It’s a total double standard." On Sunday, President Trump told reporters before departing for events in Texas and Ohio that his call with Zelensky was "largely congratulatory, was largely corruption, all of the corruption taking place."

"It was largely the fact that we don’t want our people, like Vice President Biden and his son, creating to the corruption already in the Ukraine," he added - insisting that an anonymous intelligence whistleblower had raised "false alarms" over his conversations with a foreign leader - and he would have no problem with his attorney Rudy Giuliani testifying to Congress about the whole thing, according to Bloomberg.

"You can’t have people doing false alarms like this," said Trump.

In a July 25 phone call with Zelenskiy, Trump asked the Ukrainian leader to investigate Biden’s son Hunter, according to a person familiar with the call. Trump defended the call on Sunday.

“I said nothing wrong, it was perfect. I assume many people are on the line. I know that before I make the call,” Trump told reporters as he departed for events ahead of the United Nations General Assembly next week. “What wasn’t perfect was the horrible thing Joe Biden said.”

The Washington Post has reported that the whistle-blower’s complaint concerns Trump’s interactions with Zelenskiy. Ukrainian Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko said in an interview with a Ukrainian news outlet, Hromadske, on Saturday that “Trump did not pressure Zelenskiy.” -Bloomberg

The whistleblower didn't actually hear the call

Buried in a recent CNN article noted by the Daily Wire's Ashe Schow, "The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications," adding "Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work."

Ukraine's Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko, meanwhile, said Trump didn't pressure Ukraine.

"President Trump is interested, his advisor, [Rudolph] Giuliani, newspapers, Democrats, Republicans are interested in whether pressure had been put on Ukraine. I want to say that we are an independent state, we have our own secrets,” said Prystaiko.

"I know what the conversation was about and I think there was no pressure. There was talk, conversations are different, leaders have the right to discuss any problems that exist. This conversation was long, friendly, and it touched on a lot of questions, including those requiring serious answers."

Impeach anyway!

Three Democratic-led house committees, meanwhile, have launched a "large-scale investigation" into whether Trump pressured Ukraine - while as noted above, their only go-to now is that Trump attempted to interfere in the 2020 US election - while absurdly glossing over the fact that Biden openly bragged, on camera, about pressuring Ukraine to fire the guy investigating his son!
 

The latest media-manufactured faux scandal is that Trump needs to be impeached because he a told a foreign leader to rein in corruption. Oh, and Joe Biden, who *bragged on camera* about bribing Ukraine to fire a prosecutor investigating his son’s company, should be president.

 
 
 
 
Biden, meanwhile, lashed out on Saturday - suggesting the press should instead investigate Trump, who knows Biden will "beat him like a drum."
 

Eight. That’s how many times Donald Trump asked a foreign leader to investigate me and my family.

Why? Because he knows I'll beat him like a drum.

 
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Now let's do the Bidens' adventures in China.
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21 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

Good article...

One of these guys was pressuring Ukraine to help him out in an election. The other was pressuring Ukraine to end corruption. They are not the same.

https://thebulwark.com/truth-lies-and-the-nonsense-trump-biden-ukraine-false-equivalency/

Mainecrap, posting here on a 1400 member site isn't really gonna' do Trump in. 

Basically, you gotta' suck it up for another year. 

If anything, you should get involved in the Democratic nominee election process. 

Send a few hundred or a few thousand to your candidate of choice. 

I would feel the same way if Hillary had been elected. Not so much her politics, but her ugly, irritating face and personality, which I hate. 

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I'm beginning to think the whistleblower/dems/media was set up by the admin.   Like Maddow and the single year of tax returns.  

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3 hours ago, Mainecat said:

Meanwhile it’s OK for a sitting presidents family to do business with other countries.

 

Do business?  Hell they fly there on the taxpayers dime. 

I like the false equivalency. Biden told a story about a gangster with a stupid name. It gets ridiculed, people said the guy didn’t exist etc. It proven true and yet Republicans still act as though he was lying. 

Much like they go after Warren for one lie. 

But believe Trump on obvious lies. 

Mercans are toopid. 

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4 hours ago, Mainecat said:

Good article...

One of these guys was pressuring Ukraine to help him out in an election. The other was pressuring Ukraine to end corruption. They are not the same.

https://thebulwark.com/truth-lies-and-the-nonsense-trump-biden-ukraine-false-equivalency/

nice try but sad for your team of loosers the truth is going to start coming out no matter how hard the media,attempts hurry the facts . 

 

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4 hours ago, Mainecat said:

Meanwhile it’s OK for a sitting presidents family to do business with other countries.

 

nice change of naritive again .

but just a little reminder of the worthless butthurt shit you post blowing up in your face in slow motion 

Buried in a recent CNN article noted by the Daily Wire's Ashe Schow, "The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications," adding "Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work."

Ukraine's Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko, meanwhile, said Trump didn't pressure Ukraine.

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5 hours ago, Mainecat said:

Good article...

One of these guys was pressuring Ukraine to help him out in an election. The other was pressuring Ukraine to end corruption. They are not the same.

https://thebulwark.com/truth-lies-and-the-nonsense-trump-biden-ukraine-false-equivalency/

Their false equivalency is impressive.

"We must listen to Trump because he is a successful, self made business man."

We must not listen to George Soros, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Warren Buffet.

Years of bitching about hollywood people being involved in politics.

Yet they voted in Ronald Reagan and as an encore, a reality tv star.

They want to impeach for lying about a BJ. But not for breaking election finance rules to cover up an affair with a porn star. 

 

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2 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

Their false equivalency is impressive.

"We must listen to Trump because he is a successful, self made business man."

We must not listen to George Soros, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Warren Buffet.

Years of bitching about hollywood people being involved in politics.

Yet they voted in Ronald Reagan and as an encore, a reality tv star.

They want to impeach for lying about a BJ. But not for breaking election finance rules to cover up an affair with a porn star. 

 

and again for you 

Buried in a recent CNN article noted by the Daily Wire's Ashe Schow, "The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications," adding "Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work."

Ukraine's Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko, meanwhile, said Trump didn't pressure Ukraine.

 
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9 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

They want to impeach for lying about a BJ. But not for breaking election finance rules to cover up an affair with a porn star. 

 

The money was paid out of his pocket and stormy admitted the whole story was made up. I guess the truth doesn’t get covered on your fake news eh?

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1 hour ago, Edmo said:

The money was paid out of his pocket and stormy admitted the whole story was made up. I guess the truth doesn’t get covered on your fake news eh?

Not only that John Edwards was found not to have broke campaign finance laws doing something similar. 

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3 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

What a total gem that guy turned out to be.  

Dems: “Our next JFK!!  Our savior!!”

:lol:

 

He was flying her around and paying for an apartment with campaign funds and was found not guilty of breaking campaign finance laws.

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2 minutes ago, Highmark said:

He was flying her around and paying for an apartment with campaign funds and was found not guilty of breaking campaign finance laws.

All while his wife was suffering cancer treatments (terminally).

Its no wonder this guy was one of their party’s great future hopes...LOL...those were good times.

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45 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

All while his wife was suffering cancer treatments (terminally).

Its no wonder this guy was one of their party’s great future hopes...LOL...those were good times.

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Avenatti! :lol: This guy was going to run for president! How many of these fairy tale stories and false prophets have gone to shit for the dems? :lol: 

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1 minute ago, Edmo said:

Avenatti! :lol: This guy was going to run for president! How many of these fairy tale stories and false prophets have gone to shit for the dems? :lol: 

Shit on the wall strategy.  And they’re running out of shit.  :lol:  

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