02sled Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Skidude600 said: Jesus Cripe!!!!!!!! Do you really think that all the automotive shows, magazines and whatever other test facilities run every vehicle on the same day every time. It is what it is...... The Camaro ran a faster time plain and simple. If you would like I'll let a friend of mine, who's an engineer on the Camaro program, know that he and his buds werent being fair to the Mustang boys by running on a better day than them. You're right... the Camaro ran a faster time... with a bigger super charged engine than the smaller non-supercharged engine in the Mustang. Doesn't mean it is faster every time. Nobody seems to want to accept that there are a lot of factors that will contribute to the times other than the car itself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidude600 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, 02sled said: You're right... the Camaro ran a faster time... with a bigger super charged engine than the smaller non-supercharged engine in the Mustang. Doesn't mean it is faster every time. Nobody seems to want to accept that there are a lot of factors that will contribute to the times other than the car itself. I'll acknowledge that fact, but you can say that about any race/test. Edited October 25, 2016 by Skidude600 clarification 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 12 minutes ago, Skidude600 said: I'll acknowledge that fact, but you can say that about any race. which has been my point all along... too many factors to chalk it all up to the car itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidude600 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 So.................. If the GT350R is faster than the ZL1 then its faster but not really. Sounds to me like the Mustang boys need to get better drivers to test their vehicles and pay more attention to the weather. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, Skidude600 said: So.................. If the GT350R is faster than the ZL1 then its faster but not really. Sounds to me like the Mustang boys need to get better drivers to test their vehicles and pay more attention to the weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 30 minutes ago, Skidude600 said: So.................. If the GT350R is faster than the ZL1 then its faster but not really. Sounds to me like the Mustang boys need to get better drivers to test their vehicles and pay more attention to the weather. Hey the Mustang boys should be glad that no one in comparing the Ford R to a Vette ZR1 https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted October 25, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said: Hey the Mustang boys should be glad that no one in comparing the Ford R to a Vette ZR1 https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/ Or Z06 Ford is all the way down at #35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: Hey the Mustang boys should be glad that no one in comparing the Ford R to a Vette ZR1 https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/ All those cars ahead of the mustang had better weatber and drivers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted October 25, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 25, 2016 10 minutes ago, Dave said: All those cars ahead of the mustang had better weatber and drivers... And bigger motors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Nismo pewps on all of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 5 hours ago, Kev144 said: They has to go to a bigger motor and supercharger to beat a na 5.2 by 2 seconds? "Golf clap" So that's why the gt350 is so slow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 12 hours ago, xcr700 said: Sorry . Typo ..Supposed to be 05 I figured that's what you meant, but wanted to make sure 10 hours ago, 02sled said: You can't see the forest for the trees. 2.6 seconds over say 5 miles versus 2.6 seconds over 1/2 mile is a big variable. Still no mention of the conditions and the driver. The driver is one of the biggest variables. I've watched Indy cars race where the same car same track different day and lap times vary significantly. Gee I wonder why if as you seem to believe the car itself is the only criteria that counts. How about doing a better comparison of the Camaro to the street legal race ready mustang rather than the standard GT 350 Exactly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Rosenberg Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, SVT Renegade XRS said: Exactly Yep. I would ram both of those cars right off the track with an old rotted out 318 Coronet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 AMG is here to save the day!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted October 26, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 26, 2016 So with this logic....if Chevy got a better driver and ran the laps under better conditions it could be 5 or 6 seconds faster then the Ford, maybe more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, Sal Rosenberg said: Yep. I would ram both of those cars right off the track with an old rotted out 318 Coronet. 3 minutes ago, Skidooski said: So with this logic....if Chevy got a better driver and ran the laps under better conditions it could be 5 or 6 seconds faster then the Ford, maybe more? Not likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 23 minutes ago, Skidooski said: So with this logic....if Chevy got a better driver and ran the laps under better conditions it could be 5 or 6 seconds faster then the Ford, maybe more? Now youre gonna confuse the whole thing for them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Dave said: AMG is here to save the day!!!! I will still take the SL65 amg any day over the Detroit iron. only way to get a 630hp 6.0 v12 out in fr of u . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: I will still take the SL65 amg any day over the Detroit iron. only way to get a 630hp 6.0 v12 out in fr of u . For sure...but amg on this forum stands for angry mustang guy and thats svt renegade xrs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Just now, Dave said: For sure...but amg on this forum stands for angry mustang guy and thats svt renegade xrs... really? degrading a quality brand by tainting it with mustang talk. that is not right AMG deserves far more respect than that . hell my wife had a AMG wagon that would kill mustangs . I loved kicking the shit out of stangs and Camaros in mammas wagon with the air-conditioned seats on . the best was the laughs from there buddy in the passenger seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: really? degrading a quality brand by tainting it with mustang talk. that is not right AMG deserves far more respect than that . hell my wife had a AMG wagon that would kill mustangs . I loved kicking the shit out of stangs and Camaros in mammas wagon with the air-conditioned seats on . the best was the laughs from there buddy in the passenger seat. Youre thinking way to deep man.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Just now, Dave said: Youre thinking way to deep man.... I just call them all pony boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Just now, Ez ryder said: I just call them all pony boy No no...amg(jay)(svt renegade xrs) threatens to beat up anyone who crosses him....hence the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Ez ryder said: really? degrading a quality brand by tainting it with mustang talk. that is not right AMG deserves far more respect than that . hell my wife had a AMG wagon that would kill mustangs . I loved kicking the shit out of stangs and Camaros in mammas wagon with the air-conditioned seats on . the best was the laughs from there buddy in the passenger seat. Yawn. :zzz: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 9 hours ago, Dave said: No no...amg(jay)(svt renegade xrs) threatens to beat up anyone who crosses him....hence the name. But he's really a Internet tough guy. Noodle arms and soft! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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