Rod Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Supposedly companies are finding 10 hp or so with a pipe and it has lower port timing than most doo twins have been. Maybe they have already set themselves up for an 850 HO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, Rod Johnson said: Supposedly companies are finding 10 hp or so with a pipe and it has lower port timing than most doo twins have been. Maybe they have already set themselves up for an 850 HO? I dont like to second guess the engineers on this stuff. When you start messing with the timing and fuel map you are upping the risk factor. These sleds are alot of money to be blowing them up on purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Anler said: I dont like to second guess the engineers on this stuff. When you start messing with the timing and fuel map you are upping the risk factor. These sleds are alot of money to be blowing them up on purpose. Spoken like a total noob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Anler said: I dont like to second guess the engineers on this stuff. When you start messing with the timing and fuel map you are upping the risk factor. These sleds are alot of money to be blowing them up on purpose. That wasn’t the point tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Supposedly companies are finding 10 hp or so with a pipe and it has lower port timing than most doo twins have been. Maybe they have already set themselves up for an 850 HO? No surprise that after the magic dyno-o-meter numbers for brochures and "real world" races to appease the idiots.....these sleds get remapped so they don't blow their tops. I personally don't think there is an 800 class sled pushing more than 160 out of the box. I'd bet low to mid 150 is the norm. That included the new 850 "hypersled classes". LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, Zambroski said: No surprise that after the magic dyno-o-meter numbers for brochures and "real world" races to appease the idiots.....these sleds get remapped so they don't blow their tops. I personally don't think there is an 800 class sled pushing more than 160 out of the box. I'd bet low to mid 150 is the norm. That included the new 850 "hypersled classes". LOL. Yeah supposedly the 800 etec lost close to 10 hp through the years. Highest true hp 800 prob the CFR 800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, Rod Johnson said: Yeah supposedly the 800 etec lost close to 10 hp through the years. Highest true hp 800 prob the CFR 800 Doo had the 800 etec listed as a "164 hp". Underground (non published) testing had it consistently in the mid 150's. I saw one that was 149. I don't really too much though. I've heard sleds with melted mils aren't very fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Anler said: I dont like to second guess the engineers on this stuff. When you start messing with the timing and fuel map you are upping the risk factor. These sleds are alot of money to be blowing them up on purpose. guys have been running the jaws full pipe can and y both high and low elevation with no controler for 2 full seasons with no reported isues. you sure,shit know,if guys were blowing with this set up the forums would be filled with reports . oh and that statement shows you really are a doo guy to the core . Edited December 26, 2018 by Ez ryder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: Doo had the 800 etec listed as a "164 hp". Underground (non published) testing had it consistently in the mid 150's. I saw one that was 149. I don't really too much though. I've heard sleds with melted mils aren't very fast. The mid season release was around 163 ish at dynotech then by 2012 was about 152 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, Ez ryder said: guys have been running the jaws full pipe can and y both high and low elevation with no controler for 2 full seasons with no reported isues. you sure,shit know,if guys were blowing with this set up the forums would be filled with reports . Been over to HCS lately? i haven't done a lot of backreading but, it appears Poo fucking the POOch again. They've got all kinds of issues. And issues past the dealers having to tear out the motor and replace some valve gasket the factory fucked up before delivery. So...YUH...that's what I want. A $13k sled that needed major 're-engineering" done by the 20 year olds that can't figure out how to put the shock on the correct way. I'd walk away from my deposit in a heartbeat. What a bunch of BS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: The mid season release was around 163 ish at dynotech then by 2012 was about 152 Mils lose hp and comp over time. FACT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, Zambroski said: Been over to HCS lately? i haven't done a lot of backreading but, it appears Poo fucking the POOch again. They've got all kinds of issues. And issues past the dealers having to tear out the motor and replace some valve gasket the factory fucked up before delivery. So...YUH...that's what I want. A $13k sled that needed major 're-engineering" done by the 20 year olds that can't figure out how to put the shock on the correct way. I'd walk away from my deposit in a heartbeat. What a bunch of BS. Polaris with a bad first year motor lol who woulda thought 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, Zambroski said: Mils lose hp and comp over time. FACT! Green CRR’s! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 And cfr’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, Rod Johnson said: Polaris with a bad first year motor lol who woulda thought Yeah...it's weird! Still...it hurts us all. I don't have the "skinny" on what's all going on but, it's a few major and minor issues. My buddy just got his 850 two weeks ago. Went to go start it and NOTHING! He's mechanically inclined too and couldn't figure out what the fuck?!?!?!? Warranty claim before it even hit snow. Local shop is full of Poos right now. It's just fucking stupid as fuck!!!! If low snow years weren't enough....the OEM's can't wait to commit suicide on their own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I have seen the reports. not many poping on snowest . usually wide spred issues show there head there first for obvious reasons . that said it is the reason I did not buy a alpha or a poo 850 this yr I quit being a paying test piolet for first yr junk yrs ago . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, Zambroski said: Yeah...it's weird! Still...it hurts us all. I don't have the "skinny" on what's all going on but, it's a few major and minor issues. My buddy just got his 850 two weeks ago. Went to go start it and NOTHING! He's mechanically inclined too and couldn't figure out what the fuck?!?!?!? Warranty claim before it even hit snow. Local shop is full of Poos right now. It's just fucking stupid as fuck!!!! If low snow years weren't enough....the OEM's can't wait to commit suicide on their own! Why can’t polaris get their shit together after the last 15 years you’d think they’d be paying particular attention to their engine program Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, Ez ryder said: I have seen the reports. not many poping on snowest . usually wide spred issues show there head there first for obvious reasons . that said it is the reason I did not buy a alpha or a poo 850 this yr I quit being a paying test piolet for first yr junk yrs ago . Yeah after my 08 xp junk I quit too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, Ez ryder said: I have seen the reports. not many poping on snowest . usually wide spred issues show there head there first for obvious reasons . that said it is the reason I did not buy a alpha or a poo 850 this yr I quit being a paying test piolet for first yr junk yrs ago . I've seen a few blips on the Alpa skid being busted up. Pretty sure that was a rider hitting something on one and clearly low snow eating into the slide on another. Seem solid so far. Looks like clutching is good and the mil is always good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Polaris with a bad first year motor lol who woulda thought Theyve had 1st year motors every yr mostly since 05. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, DAVE said: Theyve had 1st year motors every yr mostly since 05. Think it’s been bad every year motors since 05 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Why can’t polaris get their shit together after the last 15 years you’d think they’d be paying particular attention to their engine program Undersize pistons are good. That slapping you hear is MO POWA!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Yeah supposedly the 800 etec lost close to 10 hp through the years. Highest true hp 800 prob the CFR 800 actually the stock f made more power for some reason only like 2hp but still. the sharper bend in the pipe poss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DAVE said: Theyve had 1st year motors every yr mostly since 05. think it has been a lot longer than that . i had a ultra thst made on less than 3 mi off the trailer . and the week pto bearing in the new liberty started in like 02 or 03 Edited December 26, 2018 by Ez ryder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: actually the stock f made more power for some reason only like 2hp but still. the sharper bend in the pipe poss? Maybe it was? The f800ho was an under rated machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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