ArcticCrusher Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 3 hours ago, J D Harmeyer said: New here, but are O2 and Trail married? Seems weird and where do they get all the long winded responses from.....they must spend hours researching. funny stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share Posted May 7, 2017 On May 3, 2017 at 2:59 PM, 1trailmaker said: like I said documented facts are not used by some. Sorry about your luck Momo but the conservatives record isn't as good as you claim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share Posted May 7, 2017 More WRONG AGAIN FAIL in every thread is this fucker every correct about anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Students and parents have told me that going to college or university isn't just earning an acceptance letter. There's a huge cost barrier that in some cases means school's not an option. All students deserve the opportunity to succeed, regardless of their family income. That's why we're making tuition free for more than 210,000 students. We're also expanding free prescription drug coverage for all children and youth 0-24 through OHIP+. These changes will make life more affordable for students, so that they have the best shot at pursuing their goals. Do you guys know who you are voting for yet? 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 5 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: Students and parents have told me that going to college or university isn't just earning an acceptance letter. There's a huge cost barrier that in some cases means school's not an option. All students deserve the opportunity to succeed, regardless of their family income. That's why we're making tuition free for more than 210,000 students. We're also expanding free prescription drug coverage for all children and youth 0-24 through OHIP+. These changes will make life more affordable for students, so that they have the best shot at pursuing their goals. Do you guys know who you are voting for yet? 2018 Anybody other than Wynnebag. Sure those are nice to have things from her bag of let's try and buy votes approach but you have to pay for it. Going further into debt is not the answer when it comes to nice to haves. I would like a 40' boat but I can't afford it. There is already a mechanism in place for those who can't afford university. Student loans and grants that have worked well for a long time. Prescriptions for people who don't really need it is just grandstanding. If they are students they are still covered under plans their parents have and almost every employer, even the small guys have a plan coverage. it sure fits your Libturd utopia dream. Lets take more money from those who have worked hard to be successful and give it to others who haven't been as successful in life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 6 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: Students and parents have told me that going to college or university isn't just earning an acceptance letter. There's a huge cost barrier that in some cases means school's not an option. All students deserve the opportunity to succeed, regardless of their family income. That's why we're making tuition free for more than 210,000 students. We're also expanding free prescription drug coverage for all children and youth 0-24 through OHIP+. These changes will make life more affordable for students, so that they have the best shot at pursuing their goals. Do you guys know who you are voting for yet? 2018 Stop funding useless arts programs or programs that do not lead to a career. Focus on supporting the careers of the future. Then most of the useless careers form the basis of Wynnebags support. Parents are under no obligation to pay for kids schooling and many kids puts themselves through school. Why is that no longer an option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usedtoskidoo Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Wynnes funding of post secondary basically guaranteed one thing. Your 3 or 4 year degree is worth nothing. Thanks Wynne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 4 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: Stop funding useless arts programs or programs that do not lead to a career. Focus on supporting the careers of the future. Then most of the useless careers form the basis of Wynnebags support. Parents are under no obligation to pay for kids schooling and many kids puts themselves through school. Why is that no longer an option? I am guessing being 21yrs old or so and having 50k of debt isn't working out anymore. A student would still have to pay for food and rent if they go away to school, which many do. I see no problem with this since it includes all wage groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 5 hours ago, 02sled said: Anybody other than Wynnebag. Sure those are nice to have things from her bag of let's try and buy votes approach but you have to pay for it. Going further into debt is not the answer when it comes to nice to haves. I would like a 40' boat but I can't afford it. There is already a mechanism in place for those who can't afford university. Student loans and grants that have worked well for a long time. Prescriptions for people who don't really need it is just grandstanding. If they are students they are still covered under plans their parents have and almost every employer, even the small guys have a plan coverage. it sure fits your Libturd utopia dream. Lets take more money from those who have worked hard to be successful and give it to others who haven't been as successful in life. All governments do things to as you say BUY VOTES, your not very bright on these subjects. In case you missed it, the budget is balanced. BOLD - since a family making 2million a year will get free post-secondary education, how is this taking from the rich and giving to the lazy? again not that bright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boered Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 37 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: I am guessing being 21yrs old or so and having 50k of debt isn't working out anymore. A student would still have to pay for food and rent if they go away to school, which many do. I see no problem with this since it includes all wage groups. Those kids can simply end their education with a high school diploma and get a government job, just like you did. Tit sucking does not require a post secondary education. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usedtoskidoo Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Did someone say the budget is balanced? ummm-no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 3 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: All governments do things to as you say BUY VOTES, your not very bright on these subjects. In case you missed it, the budget is balanced. BOLD - since a family making 2million a year will get free post-secondary education, how is this taking from the rich and giving to the lazy? again not that bright Yet, the debt still continues to grow by the same. How can that be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Usedtoskidoo said: Did someone say the budget is balanced? ummm-no It balanced itself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 4 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: All governments do things to as you say BUY VOTES, your not very bright on these subjects. In case you missed it, the budget is balanced. BOLD - since a family making 2million a year will get free post-secondary education, how is this taking from the rich and giving to the lazy? again not that bright As usual STILL WRONG AGAIN FAIL STRIKES.... Are you really that out of touch with reality? It seems so. From the provincial government website. https://news.ontario.ca/opo/en/2016/09/ontario-making-college-and-university-more-affordable.html Sept 2016 Allow eligible students whose parents earn less than $50,000 to graduate without having to pay back provincial student loans Provide the Ontario Student Grant to make the average cost of college and university tuition free for thousands of low- and middle-income students So guess what Fail... unlike you stupidly believed a family making $2M WILL NOT GET FREE POST-SECONDARY EDUCATION and like I said those who were more successful in life will be paying even more for those who aren't. A libturd utopia. The biggest problem for a libturd is when THEY RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES MONEY TO SPEND. Balanced budget You take in $50B but spend $80B. $30B more than you take in. That is not a balanced budget! Oh hold on. Let's borrow $30B and call it a balanced budget. As long as we make the minimum monthly payment we have a balanced budget. I can only imagine someone running a business this way.... You really are out to lunch.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 4 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: I am guessing being 21yrs old or so and having 50k of debt isn't working out anymore. A student would still have to pay for food and rent if they go away to school, which many do. I see no problem with this since it includes all wage groups. What a surprise.... Fail IS STILL WRONG AGAIN. First the average student debt is $25K about 1/2 of that $50K you pulled out of your over active imagination yet again. That average $25K is their total average debt which would be inclusive of all costs. Surprise surprise. The students that live at home while going to school for some stupid reason like to eat as well. Even those that don't go to university have this strange need to eat. So don't go spewing that they have to pay for food. Oh my... they have a whopping $25K in student debt. Many either go back to or continue to live with mom & dad rent free after graduation so they can pay that debt off. You know that debt that is slightly less than the amount of the average new car. The most recent data shows the average price paid for a new vehicle in Canada. On average we paid $27,563 for a 2015 model-year car. No payments are required for six months after your last confirmed study period ends. No interest is charged during that time. When interest does apply it is prime rate of interest + 1% If your family income is low, you can apply to make reduced monthly loan payments – or no monthly payments at all through the Repayment Assistance Plan. There is nothing wrong with the program as it is.... Only a libturd would think free post-secondary education for everyone. You do know people have to apply to get into the universities and not everyone gets in as it is. How do you suppose the universities manage the capacity of free education for everyone? How out of touch with reality can you really be Fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 hours ago, 02sled said: What a surprise.... Fail IS STILL WRONG AGAIN. First the average student debt is $25K about 1/2 of that $50K you pulled out of your over active imagination yet again. That average $25K is their total average debt which would be inclusive of all costs. Surprise surprise. The students that live at home while going to school for some stupid reason like to eat as well. Even those that don't go to university have this strange need to eat. So don't go spewing that they have to pay for food. Oh my... they have a whopping $25K in student debt. Many either go back to or continue to live with mom & dad rent free after graduation so they can pay that debt off. You know that debt that is slightly less than the amount of the average new car. The most recent data shows the average price paid for a new vehicle in Canada. On average we paid $27,563 for a 2015 model-year car. No payments are required for six months after your last confirmed study period ends. No interest is charged during that time. When interest does apply it is prime rate of interest + 1% If your family income is low, you can apply to make reduced monthly loan payments – or no monthly payments at all through the Repayment Assistance Plan. There is nothing wrong with the program as it is.... Only a libturd would think free post-secondary education for everyone. You do know people have to apply to get into the universities and not everyone gets in as it is. How do you suppose the universities manage the capacity of free education for everyone? How out of touch with reality can you really be Fail. get a grip 02sled course - 6500 Residence Housing $5,352 - $8,941 that is per year Cost includes heat, electricity, water, and Wi-Fi. Meal plan cost not included. Books 1500 Meals 2600 Thats 15k for one year 0tool for an average course = 60k I actually paid for schooling - and average loan doesn't mean what they paid, it means what they borrowed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said: get a grip 02sled course - 6500 Residence Housing $5,352 - $8,941 that is per year Cost includes heat, electricity, water, and Wi-Fi. Meal plan cost not included. Books 1500 Meals 2600 Thats 15k for one year 0tool for an average course = 60k I actually paid for schooling - and average loan doesn't mean what they paid, it means what they borrowed Give it a rest Fail. You couldn't have been any more wrong on your BS free post secondary education for everyone and you're out to lunch as usual on the rest. I just paid for my niece and nephews education so I know exactly what it costs. You do realize different programs and different universities have different fees. She graduated University of Guelph last year so the costs I paid are real current. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, 02sled said: Give it a rest Fail. You couldn't have been any more wrong on your BS free post secondary education for everyone and you're out to lunch as usual on the rest. I just paid for my niece and nephews education so I know exactly what it costs. You do realize different programs and different universities have different fees. She graduated University of Guelph last year so the costs I paid are real current. those were from the UofT website for standard courses 52k to attend Guelph for 4 years not including books - and if you want 3 good meals a day that is another 4k these are for Guelph 13k a year to stay there Business $4,502.93 Early Childhood Studies $3,285.29 Family & Social Services $3,285.29 Justice Studies $3,285.29 Kinesiology $3,285.29 Media Studies $3,285.29 Psychology $3,285.29 Room Rate Dining Plan Total Single $6,253 $2,350 regular $8,603 Single $6,253 $2,850 medium $9,103 Single $6,253 $3,400 large $9,653 Edited May 10, 2017 by 1trailmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleboy Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 We did, and it wasn't a big deal. Paid all my student loans back once I started working. Worked all through school too. Today's kids are lazy, and have a sense of entitlement. 15 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: Stop funding useless arts programs or programs that do not lead to a career. Focus on supporting the careers of the future. Then most of the useless careers form the basis of Wynnebags support. Parents are under no obligation to pay for kids schooling and many kids puts themselves through school. Why is that no longer an option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleboy Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Are you really new here, JD? On 2017-05-06 at 6:32 PM, J D Harmeyer said: New here, but are O2 and Trail married? Seems weird and where do they get all the long winded responses from.....they must spend hours researching. funny stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sksman Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 8 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: those were from the UofT website for standard courses 52k to attend Guelph for 4 years not including books - and if you want 3 good meals a day that is another 4k these are for Guelph 13k a year to stay there Business $4,502.93 Early Childhood Studies $3,285.29 Family & Social Services $3,285.29 Justice Studies $3,285.29 Kinesiology $3,285.29 Media Studies $3,285.29 Psychology $3,285.29 Room Rate Dining Plan Total Single $6,253 $2,350 regular $8,603 Single $6,253 $2,850 medium $9,103 Single $6,253 $3,400 large $9,653 How does $2,350 get to $4,000 for meals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, Sksman said: How does $2,350 get to $4,000 for meals? Failmath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usedtoskidoo Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 10 hours ago, Puzzleboy said: We did, and it wasn't a big deal. Paid all my student loans back once I started working. Worked all through school too. Today's kids are lazy, and have a sense of entitlement. Problem is University was cheap when we were going and now is 18k a year. So a 4 year degree in English lit can be shy of 80k. Its a ridiculous system unless you work it My son wont even go to University as I know its not for him anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 41 minutes ago, Usedtoskidoo said: Problem is University was cheap when we were going and now is 18k a year. So a 4 year degree in English lit can be shy of 80k. Its a ridiculous system unless you work it My son wont even go to University as I know its not for him anyway. 80K for useless courses and the only thing they get out of it today is what gender they wish to identify. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: those were from the UofT website for standard courses 52k to attend Guelph for 4 years not including books - and if you want 3 good meals a day that is another 4k these are for Guelph 13k a year to stay there Business $4,502.93 Early Childhood Studies $3,285.29 Family & Social Services $3,285.29 Justice Studies $3,285.29 Kinesiology $3,285.29 Media Studies $3,285.29 Psychology $3,285.29 Room Rate Dining Plan Total Single $6,253 $2,350 regular $8,603 Single $6,253 $2,850 medium $9,103 Single $6,253 $3,400 large $9,653 You really don't understand much do you. One year tuition University of Guelph, Marine Biology, $6951.64. Guess what most students live off campus doing things like sharing a house or an apartment with friends. Her share of rent $325/month for 9 months $2925. Another real shocker for you. They have to eat regardless of where they live so food is not part of the cost of education. Either is clothing. The average student isn't coming out with $50K debt like your over active imagination came up with. And of course there will have to be even more government jobs created to administer all this FREE education that you thought was for everyone regardless of income. Are the libturds going to magically create more space in universities for all these extra students. They already can't accommodate everyone that applies each year now. Edited May 10, 2017 by 02sled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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