1trailmaker Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 56 minutes ago, Reevester said: My property taxes went up at the cabin but not at home. How was the first day in the new office? our taxes are crazy, how we pay near double what under taxed Toronto pays is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reevester Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 minute ago, 1trailmaker said: our taxes are crazy, how we pay near double what under taxed Toronto pays is beyond me. Yeah insane. Coach Adams text me, looks like Im a sub for slo pitch this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Reevester said: Yeah insane. Coach Adams text me, looks like Im a sub for slo pitch this year. good to hear as we take anyone these days lol going out for some warm ups soon I will call you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleboy Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 How is Toronto undertaxed? Very often taxes are lower in big cities...... efficiencies in numbers. Plus, privatizing stuff like garbage away from union sloth helps.... We get nailed here on everything else anyway. 7 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: our taxes are crazy, how we pay near double what under taxed Toronto pays is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 23 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: Actually when you compare yourself to people doing worst then you, you are the loser..... Fact is we were not the best in the G7 (5th) before we got Harper out. yes we fared well but the comparison was for our PM's including the 11 recessions our country had during that time. But in comparison to job vs. G7 is good except all G7 countries had an higher employed rate really AC he failed move on the facts are not changing. And don't worry hopefully Trudeau will take that title away - No Fail, there is no incentive to grow a business under the current government. Take your pot money and enjoy yourself cause that is all you will have. Harper understood small bus, Truedope does not have a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reevester Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 minute ago, 1trailmaker said: good to hear as we take anyone these days lol going out for some warm ups soon I will call you Ok I'm game, going to get a mitt and cleats this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Puzzleboy said: How is Toronto undertaxed? Very often taxes are lower in big cities...... efficiencies in numbers. Plus, privatizing stuff like garbage away from union sloth helps.... We get nailed here on everything else anyway. what ever you say although you have said nothing and posted zero - typical Toronto has the lowest rate in North America, million dollar homes paying less than 3k a year is low IMO by the way your garbage bills has gone up every year since Robbie - but ya its the garbage man's fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleboy Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Million dollar homes are not paying less than $3000 you moron..... where do you get that from? Yes, from thin air, where all your facts are harvested. How many garbage strikes have we had? Poor Liberal Steve..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: No Fail, there is no incentive to grow a business under the current government. Take your pot money and enjoy yourself cause that is all you will have. Harper understood small bus, Truedope does not have a clue. interesting try looking up some stats The Canadian economy expanded 0.6 percent on quarter in the last three months of 2016, slowing from a 0.9 percent growth in the previous quarter. Final domestic demand continued to decelerate, with ongoing weakness in business investment. Considering full 2016, the economy expanded 1.4 percent, following a 0.9 growth in 2015. Exports rose 0.3 percent, following a 2.3 percent gain in the third quarter. Exports of both goods (0.3 percent) and services (0.5 percent) increased. Imports of goods fell 4.1 percent, leading to a 3.5 percent drop in overall imports. Some of this decline was attributable to the one-time import of a large module destined for the Hebron offshore oil project in the third quarter. Expressed at an annualized rate, real GDP rose 2.6 percent in the fourth quarter, below an upwardly revised 3.8 percent surge in the third quarter but beating market estimates of a 2 percent growth. yes there are many large businesses failing due to poor decisions by the company. Payless shoes is the latest to take a dive. but blame Trudeau if you wish too funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: interesting try looking up some stats The Canadian economy expanded 0.6 percent on quarter in the last three months of 2016, slowing from a 0.9 percent growth in the previous quarter. Final domestic demand continued to decelerate, with ongoing weakness in business investment. Considering full 2016, the economy expanded 1.4 percent, following a 0.9 growth in 2015. Exports rose 0.3 percent, following a 2.3 percent gain in the third quarter. Exports of both goods (0.3 percent) and services (0.5 percent) increased. Imports of goods fell 4.1 percent, leading to a 3.5 percent drop in overall imports. Some of this decline was attributable to the one-time import of a large module destined for the Hebron offshore oil project in the third quarter. Expressed at an annualized rate, real GDP rose 2.6 percent in the fourth quarter, below an upwardly revised 3.8 percent surge in the third quarter but beating market estimates of a 2 percent growth. yes there are many large businesses failing due to poor decisions by the company. Payless shoes is the latest to take a dive. but blame Trudeau if you wish too funny No Fail, there is no incentive to start or grow a business in Canada, exports have more to do with the lower $CAD, like you would know. Are you going to take your 20 cent tax savings and put it to use, I am waiting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 28 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: No Fail, there is no incentive to start or grow a business in Canada, exports have more to do with the lower $CAD, like you would know. Are you going to take your 20 cent tax savings and put it to use, I am waiting? keep denying and living in the RIGHT BUBBLE 2019 coming soon and it will be all better...... Just think what will happen when/if Trump lowers the business taxes to Canada values, its going to get worse...... Enjoy the low dollar as it helps you and hurts some many others but don't worry about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Puzzleboy said: Million dollar homes are not paying less than $3000 you moron..... where do you get that from? Yes, from thin air, where all your facts are harvested. How many garbage strikes have we had? Poor Liberal Steve..... Those house will not be when MPAC comes out soon, values have gone up 25% a year dummy. up 300k in just a few years in most cases, MPAC will get you soon I know several that pay very little in taxes, 02sled is one of them. You should be paying about 8k in comparison rate is about .7 in Toronto and 1.4 in other places, under taxed. You guys are still cheering Robbie who really cost Toronto more money than any Mayor in recent times. For 1 subway stop not even built. All it takes is yell "gravy train" and you eat it up O'leary has you under his spell Edited March 29, 2017 by 1trailmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 15 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: keep denying and living in the RIGHT BUBBLE 2019 coming soon and it will be all better...... Just think what will happen when/if Trump lowers the business taxes to Canada values, its going to get worse...... Enjoy the low dollar as it helps you and hurts some many others but don't worry about that. Sorry Fail, but the lower Cad helps Ont businesses and exports. Trump will lower taxes and put pressure on canada to do the same. Who does the lower cad hurt except tit Suckers like yourself who refuse to pay sales tax whenever you can. What a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said: property taxes are from MPAC values and will go up greatly in the near future with the inflated housing market my north property is up 50% since 2011 as the new values kicked in Poor poor Fail You're one delusional fool. And you claim to be more informed than everyone else. MPAC assessments are only part of the equation. Reality is that your MPAC value can go up and you can see your taxes not go up. Check out the term mil rate Fail. Since you don't seem to understand but everyone else likely does this is probably redundant to those less informed than you. The monthly property taxes for the first part of the year are based on 50% of your total property taxes for the prior year. ONCE THEY SET THE BUDGET FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, knowing what total amount of money they need to collect in property taxes they use the total assessed value of all properties to determine the MILL RATE or how much per $1,000 of assessed value to collect for each property. Everyone else's MPAC assessment likely went up as well, proportionate to yours. So bottom line until the budget is passed by council you will not know what the mill rate for 2017 will be and what your taxes will be. Fail, more informed than everyone else.... friggin hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Sorry Fail, but the lower Cad helps Ont businesses and exports. Trump will lower taxes and put pressure on canada to do the same. Who does the lower cad hurt except tit Suckers like yourself who refuse to pay sales tax whenever you can. What a loss. Just ask them in this forum there are quite a few that are losing money with the low dollar. We all know that you make more with low dollar as you have stated that many times, you are not the speaker for all. Our taxes are already low, 15% points lower than USA 35% (usa is second highest in the developed world) but you knew that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskokaGator Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 minute ago, 1trailmaker said: Those house will not be when MPAC comes out soon, values have gone up 25% a year dummy. up 300k in just a few years in most cases, MPAC will get you soon I know several that pay very little in taxes, 02sled is one of them. You should be paying about 8k in comparison rate is about .7 in Toronto and 1.4 in other places, under taxed. You guys are still cheering Robbie who really cost Toronto more money than any Mayor in recent times. For 1 subway stop not even built. All it takes is yell "gravy train" and you eat it up Obviously you know nothing about how MPAC affects your taxes. MPAC sets the assessed value of your home which we all know is going up. The municipality determines their budget and then divides the total dollars required by the total assessment for their municipality to arrive at the mill rate. Your taxes are then calculated be multiplying your assessment by the mill rate. The determining factor as to if your taxes will go up or down and by how much is determined by how your assessment increase compares to the municipality as a whole. If your assessed value has increased significantly less than the average you could see a decrease or very small increase in your taxes. If your assessed value goes up by 25% it would be highly unlikely that your taxes would also go up by that much. For your tax increase to match your assessment increase would mean that the majority of properties had their assessments stay the same or go down. If every bodies assessment went up by 25% and the municipality required the same budget dollars as the previous year your taxes would be the same as the previous year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, 02sled said: Poor poor Fail You're one delusional fool. And you claim to be more informed than everyone else. MPAC assessments are only part of the equation. Reality is that your MPAC value can go up and you can see your taxes not go up. Check out the term mil rate Fail. Since you don't seem to understand but everyone else likely does this is probably redundant to those less informed than you. The monthly property taxes for the first part of the year are based on 50% of your total property taxes for the prior year. ONCE THEY SET THE BUDGET FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, knowing what total amount of money they need to collect in property taxes they use the total assessed value of all properties to determine the MILL RATE or how much per $1,000 of assessed value to collect for each property. Everyone else's MPAC assessment likely went up as well, proportionate to yours. So bottom line until the budget is passed by council you will not know what the mill rate for 2017 will be and what your taxes will be. Fail, more informed than everyone else.... friggin hilarious. wow thanks 02sled Are you arguing that Toronto isn't under taxed? not sure what you current wind storm is about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 minute ago, 1trailmaker said: Just ask them in this forum there are quite a few that are losing money with the low dollar. We all know that you make more with low dollar as you have stated that many times, you are not the speaker for all. Our taxes are already low, 15% points lower than USA 35% (usa is second highest in the developed world) but you knew that.... And yet so many many companies are leaving Ont for the USA. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, MuskokaGator said: Obviously you know nothing about how MPAC affects your taxes. MPAC sets the assessed value of your home which we all know is going up. The municipality determines their budget and then divides the total dollars required by the total assessment for their municipality to arrive at the mill rate. Your taxes are then calculated be multiplying your assessment by the mill rate. The determining factor as to if your taxes will go up or down and by how much is determined by how your assessment increase compares to the municipality as a whole. If your assessed value has increased significantly less than the average you could see a decrease or very small increase in your taxes. If your assessed value goes up by 25% it would be highly unlikely that your taxes would also go up by that much. For your tax increase to match your assessment increase would mean that the majority of properties had their assessments stay the same or go down. If every bodies assessment went up by 25% and the municipality required the same budget dollars as the previous year your taxes would be the same as the previous year. enjoy it as its over soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said: ya first recession ever Argue with stats can not me, his record is the worst of any PM since WWII - if you have info saying anything different then post it. Posting about G7 countries doesn't change any facts. Never mind we were behind most of the G7 by Harpers end - again if you have some facts post them what a bunch of cry babies, holy fuck sad Calling a GLOBAL ECONOMIC MELTDOWN a recession just proves how deluded you really are. Often you may here of a countries economy being in recession but how often do you hear of it on a global scale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: And yet so many many companies are leaving Ont for the USA. Go figure. some sure do, its USA USA USA land of fortune. WE are small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said: our taxes are crazy, how we pay near double what under taxed Toronto pays is beyond me. It's relative to the total tax base... commercial properties pay an insane amount of property tax compared to residential. The more commercial properties you have the lower the portion of the total property taxes left for residential properties to pay. The higher the density of people and the more residential properties to distribute the load across lowers the total per property. At least you are consistently out of touch with anything financial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, 02sled said: Calling a GLOBAL ECONOMIC MELTDOWN a recession just proves how deluded you really are. Often you may here of a countries economy being in recession but how often do you hear of it on a global scale? 6 or more countries in a recession is considered global 1970 1974-75 1980-83 1990-93 1998 2001-02 2008-09 Go Jean Go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, 02sled said: It's relative to the total tax base... commercial properties pay an insane amount of property tax compared to residential. The more commercial properties you have the lower the portion of the total property taxes left for residential properties to pay. The higher the density of people and the more residential properties to distribute the load across lowers the total per property. At least you are consistently out of touch with anything financial. Thanks 02sled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: some sure do, its USA USA USA land of fortune. WE are small Tards biggest concern right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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