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The honourable Jordan Peterson addresses the “not real communism” fallacy


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6 minutes ago, motonoggin said:

Ok this is the best one from The Superior Court of Ontario yet. Link above. Lmao.

 

The apparent but unfounded arrogance of Dr. Peterson found throughout this report [and for that matter in some of the other reports] is troubling and give rise to the question of whether his reports are not biased in more than one fashion.  That there can be more than one type of bias when it comes to experts is explored by Professor David Paciocco in his article “Taking a ‘Goudge’ out of Bluster and Blarney: an ‘Evidence-Based Approach’ to Expert Testimony”.[9]  On page 18 of his paper, Professor Paciocco lists and defines many possible types of bias, including: lack of independence bias; adversarial bias; selection bias; team bias; professional interest bias; association bias; and noble cause distortion bias.  I venture the opinion that Dr. Peterson suffers from at least two, if not three, of those.

Wtf is the superior court of Ontario :lol: 

also, Ontario is one of the most extreme authoritarian provinces 

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12 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said:

Shapiro is intelligent as well. I don’t agree with everything he says, but generally he educates himself quite well on the topic at hand 

He's shit. Why are all the right's heroes so well versed in the use of logical fallacy?

11 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said:

Wtf is the superior court of Ontario :lol: 

also, Ontario is one of the most extreme authoritarian provinces 

SUPERIOR COURT OF JUSTICE - ONTARIO

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10 minutes ago, motonoggin said:

He's shit. Why are all the right's heroes so well versed in the use of logical fallacy?

SUPERIOR COURT OF JUSTICE - ONTARIO

So you like heavily authoritarian courts now?

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8 minutes ago, motonoggin said:

Tell me friend, have you ever let your children do something that made you dislike them?

Should sexual intercourse be redistributed to those in need?

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1 minute ago, motonoggin said:

Haha no

Why not 

from each according to their ability, to those according to their need...

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9 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said:

Why not 

from each according to their ability, to those according to their need...

Yeah but women aren't property, commodity, or universal means of exchange 

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7 hours ago, racinfarmer said:

Haven't watched it yet, AvE and spreadsheets for work got the best of me.  Can't win them call, I guess.

Moto digging as deep as he is to discredit him means he is probably a pretty decent and smart guy.  Makes me like him a lot more.

AvE will drain your time for sure!

My work shirt yesterday:

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:bc:

Neal

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5 hours ago, motonoggin said:

Yeah but women aren't property, commodity, or universal means of exchange 

It’s just forced labour like communism. 

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I like Peterson.  I like his focus and way of relaying his thoughts.  I think is resonates with many normal people with better than normal minds.  Has anyone been able to debate him successfully at all?  It's no wonder the left hate him so.  "Lobsters!!!!!!!!!!"  That's the argument against him?  :lol: 

When one's "triggerdom" overides all mental thought and reason...well...the mind slips into a mess of emotional decay.

 

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9 hours ago, f7ben said:

Me !!!!!!!1111

Well there's your first clue.  Classically trained doctorate degree exponentially smarter than self taught anarchist who won't stop talking about his delusional schemes.  

9 hours ago, motonoggin said:

Are you misusing these terms on purpose or?

 

Yes, I am ridiculing your over use of all those claptrap cliches and anarcho buzzwords.

8 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

Matt Dillahunty reduces him to a babbling metaphysics mess.

Neal

Disagree.  Post up your evidence.  Motos sure as hell hasn't.  

7 hours ago, Rod Johnson said:

Should sexual intercourse be redistributed to those in need?

Jennifer Aniston please.

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12 hours ago, Wildboer said:

 

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That is in reference to YouTube where all his videos are posted and has something like 80% male audience.

His audience now is far more diverse since his book launched.   Have you read it or watched many of his lectures/videos?

The funny thing about Peterson is if he was this popular 10 years ago you'd call him a bore. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Killer said:

That is in reference to YouTube where all his videos are posted and has something like 80% male audience.

His audience now is far more diverse since his book launched.   Have you read it or watched many of his lectures/videos?

The funny thing about Peterson is if he was this popular 10 years ago you'd call him a bore. 

 

Well in that time, we've seen the rise of the snowflake triggered safe space generation, who have somehow convinced themselves that capitalism is the root of all evil.  They're wrong, and he explains why.

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12 hours ago, motonoggin said:

He's arguing against what communist doctrine became when hijacked by authoritarian elements. 

Communism calls for a stateless, classless, moneyless society in which the means of production are collectively owned by the people to the benefit of the people. 

Both China and the USSR are/were states. They both had classes. They both had money. And neither turned the means of production over to the people.

Not exactly.  He is arguing that essential human nature precludes us from this monolithic equity outcome you seem to think is the best form of society. History disagrees with you. 

His argument based on historical facts is far more believable than "we didn't have nice people in authoritarian positions for Marxism to work".

The fact you use socialism and communism in the same context makes me think you don't know what they actually are.

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1 minute ago, DriftBusta said:

Well in that time, we've seen the rise of the snowflake triggered safe space generation, who have somehow convinced themselves that capitalism is the root of all evil.  They're wrong, and he explains why.

“Toxic masculinity.”  That term always makes me laugh.

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3 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Well in that time, we've seen the rise of the snowflake triggered safe space generation, who have somehow convinced themselves that capitalism is the root of all evil.  They're wrong, and he explains why.

I've been fortunate enough to have followed this guy's rise to fame since he first caught it over a year and a half ago because it started locally to me at UofT.  It's pretty crazy watching him go from a popular professor with little noteriety to a world wide phenomenon.  He's handled it quite well for a regular family guy. 

He has said he thinks this all  started in the early 90s with the PC doctrine making its way through the schools.

 

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9 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

Matt Dillahunty reduces him to a babbling metaphysics mess.

Neal

How so?  Haven't seen it yet but I've listened to him and Sam harris now a few times.  They are getting together in Vancouver very soon I believe. 

From what I can gather Peterson doesn't believe most atheists are actually atheist and he loaths nialism. He makes strong arguments for both and I'm being very brief on my interpretation.

 

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