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The honourable Jordan Peterson addresses the “not real communism” fallacy


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Just now, Wildboer said:

You are officially triggered Zambo :lol: 

Nope.  Not at all.  But, it thinking that makes you feel just in your way of thinking, hey...I want you to be happy!  

BTW, forgot to comment on your 9-5 deal with your dad.  Good for you!  Pay attention and get that EE license!  Shit is getting silly busy with construction work.   :bc:

 

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1 hour ago, Zambroski said:

Nope.  Not at all.  But, it thinking that makes you feel just in your way of thinking, hey...I want you to be happy!  

BTW, forgot to comment on your 9-5 deal with your dad.  Good for you!  Pay attention and get that EE license!  Shit is getting silly busy with construction work.   :bc:

 

I gave it a shot but there's no point when you start calling the use of specific definitions word salad it just feels like trite politics, gotta save my finger strength for the job :bc: Thanks for the well wishes, it's a step forward for sure.

49 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said:

Good poast op!

Sit down.

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Just now, Wildboer said:

I gave it a shot but there's no point when you start calling the use of specific definitions word salad it just feels like trite politics, gotta save my finger strength for the job :bc: Thanks for the well wishes, it's a step forward for sure.

Sit down.

:lol:

Dude, that game of throwing multiple 3-4 syllable socio-political words into two or three sentences only to make a sum zero point with the goal of trying to bewilder your target is laughable.  Especially if it’s under the mistaken idea that it makes one sound intelligent and somehow intellectually threatening to nay-sayers opposing your viewpoints. Seriously, it is really funny and that’s why I enjoy it.  Creative, sure.   Meaningful?  No. Not at all.  But that’s not why I partake.

Yeah, construction is tough work.  But I’ve always enjoyed it.  Something about creating shit with your hands that can’t be duplicated.  Keep your head down and listen to your old man.

 :bc:

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Zambroski said:

:lol:

Dude, that game of throwing multiple 3-4 syllable socio-political words into two or three sentences only to make a sum zero point with the goal of trying to bewilder your target is laughable.  Especially if it’s under the mistaken idea that it makes one sound intelligent and somehow intellectually threatening to nay-sayers opposing your viewpoints. Seriously, it is really funny and that’s why I enjoy it.  Creative, sure.   Meaningful?  No. Not at all.  But that’s not why I partake.

Yeah, construction is tough work.  But I’ve always enjoyed it.  Something about creating shit with your hands that can’t be duplicated.  Keep your head down and listen to your old man.

 :bc:

 

 

 

You are such a fucking faggot dude :lol:

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1 minute ago, f7ben said:

You are such a fucking faggot dude :lol:

Wut?  Looking for a date?  Ok, you had me at “faggot”. :lol:

One If us has to wear a pretty sun dress though. Whoever looks the “smoothest” should. Prolly ain’t me.  :lmaodance:

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2 hours ago, Killer said:

Perhaps youre confused but the very definition of utopia is a near perfect society. What is the context around his reference to utopia? Can you share the conversation?

We live in a better society today, by all metrics, where we've gotten over a billion people out of extreme poverty in the last 20 years. Life is FAR better for most people today than 200 years ago when your home boy Marx was on the scene.

Even more recently as according to: https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty

In Marx time it was maybe the 1% who didn't live in extreme poverty, by 1981 it was estimated 44% of the world lived in extreme poverty and in 2013 it was 11%... 

1 thing I've found his detractors get hung up on is the fact the guy choses his words very carefully and you have found yourself trying to interpret what he's said to fit your views and failed to actually listen to him as carefully as you should have if your going to form an opinion and especially if you're going to argue that opinion.  I'm certain you've not paraphrased correctly his comments on Russia or Maoist China. I haven't heard his in whatever you're referring to so based on your comments so far, and knowing his position on the history of marxist-lenist dogma, I know definitively what he's suggesting is not what you have interpreted him to have said.

Also, you are using terms like socialism and communism interchangeably to explain his position yet he rarely ever refers to socialism and definitely not in the same breath.  He has talked about being in favor of a number of socialist philosophies and was at one point an active social Democrat.

So it's  pretty clear you don't have a lot of time into your argument or understanding what he's said, especially when you kick it off by saying the guy is pseudo intellectual.  Pretty hard to take anything you say seriously because of that.

How so?  The lobster story is an analogy comparing humans to an animal, something scientists do every single day. Its scientific consensus We evolved from the same cells as crustaceans and he makes a very good case for how the way we act in many ways is a matter of evolution, not social construction. Perhaps it's debatable but to compare it to flat earthers is blatantly ignorant.

 

Holy fuck.

18 minutes ago, racinfarmer said:

Whatever will help you sleep at night.

Come on man, that's a way overused line, especially on here Hell, my dumb ass has used it.

9 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

:lol:

Dude, that game of throwing multiple 3-4 syllable socio-political words into two or three sentences only to make a sum zero point with the goal of trying to bewilder your target is laughable.  Especially if it’s under the mistaken idea that it makes one sound intelligent and somehow intellectually threatening to nay-sayers opposing your viewpoints. Seriously, it is really funny and that’s why I enjoy it.  Creative, sure.   Meaningful?  No. Not at all.  But that’s not why I partake.

Yeah, construction is tough work.  But I’ve always enjoyed it.  Something about creating shit with your hands that can’t be duplicated.  Keep your head down and listen to your old man.

 :bc:

 

 

 

That pretty much sums up Jordan Peterson to a T...

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25 minutes ago, Wildboer said:

I gave it a shot but there's no point when you start calling the use of specific definitions word salad it just feels like trite politics, gotta save my finger strength for the job :bc: Thanks for the well wishes, it's a step forward for sure.

Sit down.

I’m sorry about you’re false narratives getting crushed k

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8 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said:

Now you covet weeener

 

6 minutes ago, Momorider said:

Poor poop dink :lol: 

 

5 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said:

Poop Dink! He has poop on his dink!

 

 

Holy fucking shit. Twinspeak from the resident retards....

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32 minutes ago, Wildboer said:

Holy fuck.

Come on man, that's a way overused line, especially on here Hell, my dumb ass has used it.

That pretty much sums up Jordan Peterson to a T...

I'm not feeling exceptionally creative tonight...

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6 minutes ago, racinfarmer said:

I'm not feeling exceptionally creative tonight...

Wut you need to do is start stocking the frozen White Castles. Dooode!  45 seconds of nuke and I swear...it’s like ordering from the WC counter in my kitchen.  I’m ruined!!!! 

:lol:

 

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2 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

Wut you need to do is start stocking the frozen White Castles. Dooode!  45 seconds of nuke and I swear...it’s like ordering from the WC counter in my kitchen.  I’m ruined!!!! 

:lol:

 

d:

 

I drove past one today one the way home from a meeting and the wheel was twitching toward the drive thru.  

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Ok so, you guys wanna unpack the 12 rules with me?

Peterson’s 12 rules

Rule 1 Stand up straight with your shoulders back

Rule 2 Treat yourself like you would someone you are responsible for helping

Rule 3 Make friends with people who want the best for you

Rule 4 Compare yourself with who you were yesterday, not with who someone else is today

Rule 5 Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them

Rule 6 Set your house in perfect order before you criticise the world

Rule 7 Pursue what is meaningful (not what is expedient)

Rule 8 Tell the truth – or, at least, don’t lie

Rule 9 Assume that the person you are listening to might know something you don’t

Rule 10 Be precise in your speech

Rule 11 Do not bother children when they are skate-boarding

Rule 12 Pet a cat when you encounter one on the street

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3 minutes ago, racinfarmer said:

I drove past one today one the way home from a meeting and the wheel was twitching toward the drive thru.  

Whew!  Right?  A sack of hot W’C’s with cheese?  Mmmmmm.

I can’t wait to go to Haydays this year and do our regular stop at the WC!!!!  Suitcase that bitch!!!

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5 minutes ago, motonoggin said:

Ok so, you guys wanna unpack the 12 rules with me?

Peterson’s 12 rules

Rule 1 Stand up straight with your shoulders back

Rule 2 Treat yourself like you would someone you are responsible for helping

Rule 3 Make friends with people who want the best for you

Rule 4 Compare yourself with who you were yesterday, not with who someone else is today

Rule 5 Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them

Rule 6 Set your house in perfect order before you criticise the world

Rule 7 Pursue what is meaningful (not what is expedient)

Rule 8 Tell the truth – or, at least, don’t lie

Rule 9 Assume that the person you are listening to might know something you don’t

Rule 10 Be precise in your speech

Rule 11 Do not bother children when they are skate-boarding

Rule 12 Pet a cat when you encounter one on the street

So what is wrong with them?

3 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

Whew!  Right?  A sack of hot W’C’s with cheese?  Mmmmmm.

I can’t wait to go to Haydays this year and do our regular stop at the WC!!!!  Suitcase that bitch!!!

I would never mix WC and Haydays on the chance I'd have to use a porta-shitter there.

And bacon on mine.  

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2 minutes ago, motonoggin said:

Ok so, you guys wanna unpack the 12 rules with me?

Peterson’s 12 rules

Rule 1 Stand up straight with your shoulders back

Rule 2 Treat yourself like you would someone you are responsible for helping

Rule 3 Make friends with people who want the best for you

Rule 4 Compare yourself with who you were yesterday, not with who someone else is today

Rule 5 Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them

Rule 6 Set your house in perfect order before you criticise the world

Rule 7 Pursue what is meaningful (not what is expedient)

Rule 8 Tell the truth – or, at least, don’t lie

Rule 9 Assume that the person you are listening to might know something you don’t

Rule 10 Be precise in your speech

Rule 11 Do not bother children when they are skate-boarding

Rule 12 Pet a cat when you encounter one on the street

Not really.  I’m sure he does a pretty good job of it.  

Is #13 lobster training?  :lmao:

Why are you radicals so upset by this guy?  It’s not as though he’s pulling anyone from your ranks. Why do you care?  Is Dale Carnegie     Trigger material also?  Stephen Covey?  Meredith Baxter Birney?

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1 minute ago, racinfarmer said:

So what is wrong with them?

I would never mix WC and Haydays on the chance I'd have to use a porta-shitter there.

And bacon on mine.  

Well there's a lot to unpack. That's why I asked for help

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